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Alot better after the touring mickey mouse games.

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Looks like Moreno is finally going through.

Good to have competition for FBs. I imagine Moreno will start LB and Johnson/Flanno/Manquillo to fight for RB.


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yes imno starting to see the depth - reading BR mentions 1 or 2 more by end of the month.

Impressive Anfield debut by Lovren.

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imnofreak wrote:
Looks like Moreno is finally going through.

Good to have competition for FBs. I imagine Moreno will start LB and Johnson/Flanno/Manquillo to fight for RB.


Manquillo will be moved from side to side I'd expect. Covering wherever he's needed.
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Looking at eto now, there's a case to be made that we shouldn't be spending £40 mil on a striker on a multi year deal when we have Sturridge as our lone man up front and origi coming in next season. And even if he's on say £100,000 a week, that's only £5mil for one season we'd be saving money on a the free transfer anyway.

He's not in his prime, but he had a decent season at Chelsea and he'd add depth. Thougts?

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I think Eto'o could be a good signing. He's got the EPL experience and he had the best Mins/Goal ratio at Chelsea last season. More importantly with a 1 striker system he's not going to be heavily relied upon, especially if someone like Markovic hits his stride early and Borini finds some form. Not having to part with significant money is another plus. That said, he'd be a cop-out/stopgap for not being able to sign a bigger name like Lavezzi or Reus.
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Word is Toure has agreed terms with Turkish club Trabzonspor.
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I think Moreno has been confirmed now ? $12m.....and word Kelly is going to Palace for $1-2m ?
I'm sorry to see Kelly go but that ligament op certainly set him back and these new recruits at the back have him further down the list.
Below who's been added excl Moreno and on right who's been shifted, by all means correct me fellas if I'm wrong either way..

Emre Can    £10,000,000         Armin Hodzic    Free                
Rickie Lambert    £4,000,000         Jakub Sokolík    Free                
Adam Lallana    £25,000,000         Luis Saurez    £75,000,000                
Lazar Marković    £20,000,000        Conor Coady    £500,000                
Dejan Lovren    £20,000,000         Pepe Reina    £2,000,000                
Divock Origi    £10,000,000

Eto ? well if cheap and under the circumstance not being able to get a younger known name he sure would pouch more goals than I expect Lambert would - in saying that I hope Lambert does surprise us but Eto would be more of a sure thing and wouldn't it be great he putting a couple in at the Bridge :lol:

pv4 - haven't seen anything on Toure to date - if so thats not a back breaker, pardon the pun.


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Moreno for 12 is great. Looks like we didn't budge on the price, I think they expected a bidding war and it didn't happen.

Probably too early for him to start in GW1 but he'll be our first choice LB after the first weeks I reckon.

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Squad is pretty much sorted you would think.

Anther top striker to support Sturridge is probably the last piece of the puzzle, shame Remy didn't pass his medical - would have done the job nicely.
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I'd say we're waiting to see whether we can persuade Borini to leave before we decide what our next move on a striker is.

Moreno for 12m is a quality deal. I'd say we're much, much stronger than we were last season even without Suarez. Which is good to be able to say.
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afromanGT wrote:
I'd say we're waiting to see whether we can persuade Borini to leave before we decide what our next move on a striker is.

Moreno for 12m is a quality deal. I'd say we're much, much stronger than we were last season even without Suarez. Which is good to be able to say.


Yes I wondering about Borini - he's trying to stay but we'd prefer to shift him, hope this gets resolved pronto.

As for looking stronger without Luis - yep BR has worked on having 2 capable players for near on every position and its looking much better BUT I will wait until a few games have past depending what our GF is ? :lol: yep everyone is replaceable but losing the current sharpest shooter in the game will have its frustrating times for us IF the new SS don't nail the target as often.
Maybe a lot more low scoring wins ? I'll take that anyday obviously but damn was good seeing us demolish some teams last season :d


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If only you hadn't bought Origi or Can all your first team signings would be players whose surname starts with L or M :lol:
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They go again: Why Liverpool can win the league this season

Scott Murray, published author and highly-respected writer for the The Guardian and The Blizzard, has joined Eurosport-Yahoo and will be covering Liverpool's Premier League campaign and anything and everything else during the 2014-15 season. This is his debut column.

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On a blustery Saturday afternoon in April 1899, Liverpool Football Club travelled to Villa Park knowing victory would bring them their first-ever league title. It was not to be. The wind whipping through the stadium provided an easy, breezy metaphor: the Reds were blown away, 5-0 down before half time, hosts Aston Villa making off with the championship instead. As astonishing capitulations go, Crystanbul has nothing on this.

A sickening defeat, but one which in retrospect did Liverpool a favour. The players scuttled off, licked their wounds, and came back stronger. Two seasons later, a more experienced and battle-hardened unit claimed their prize. Liverpool Football Club were champions of England, a mere nine years after coming into existence. A steely never-give-in spirit had been forged, one which would serve them well down the ages as the Reds repeatedly responded to on-field setbacks in the most positive manner.

In 1972, a team powered by the relentless dynamism of the now absurdly under-rated Kevin Keegan - younger readers should ask mum and dad, or imagine a more marketable version of Luis Suarez - went on a run of 13 wins and a draw which took them to within touching distance of the title. They lost 1-0 at Derby County in their penultimate game, which meant they required a win at Arsenal on the final day to deny Brian Clough's Rams. Emlyn Hughes hit the bar, John Toshack missed a sitter, then had a goal ruled out for offside with two minutes to go. Another wounder. But again Liverpool bounced back, winning the league the following season, ending Bill Shankly's seven-year run without silverware.

Then there was the response to *that* Michael Thomas goal: a league title 12 months afterwards, no mean feat after being the fall guys at an epochal event, not least because the endearingly hapless Glenn Hysen was in the heart of the defence. And finally there's the most modern manifestation of Liverpool's inherent spirit, character and steadfast refusal to accept second place when the going gets tough: as three-goal comebacks go, Crystanbul has nothing on Istanbul.

Given Liverpool have historically made a habit of picking themselves up from grave disappointment, dusting themselves down, and giving it another shot, often rather successfully, it's somewhat surprising that the current side has been pretty much across the board written off before a ball has been kicked in the 2014/15 title race.

Liverpool were the second best team in the league last season. For the majority of the second half of the campaign, they recorded the best results, while playing the most effective, and certainly the prettiest, football. They beat the eventual champions Manchester City. They eviscerated Everton. Arsenal. Tottenham Hotspur. Manchester United.

They also lost their heads spectacularly during the run-in. But in the context of this new season, that addled meltdown must now be viewed as a positive. After Chelsea did a number on them at Anfield, Jose Mourinho schooling his old pupil Brendan Rodgers in the art of grinding out a result any which way, and the astonishing scenes at Selhurst, there is little left to hurt Liverpool's young squad now.

After the final matches of the season confirmed Liverpool had come up short, a grim-faced Steven Gerrard reflected that, at 34 years of age, he had only just experienced for the first time a title bid that went all the way. However, young players like Daniel Sturridge, Jordan Henderson and the ridiculously precocious Raheem Sterling, he pointed out, now had that experience to draw on, and plenty of time to put it to good use. This is the beginning, not the end.

Nevertheless, it's easy to pinpoint, and understand, the reason for the collective loss of confidence in Liverpool. The departure of Luis Suarez, who scored 31 goals in the league last season while setting up 19 others, leaves an enormous gap to fill. It's an impossible task - Suarez is a singular talent, arguably the best in the world last season - so Rodgers simply hasn't bothered. His priorities this summer have been elsewhere.

The midfield has been bolstered by the arrival of Emre Can, a member of Germany's latest wave of talent. Can will take on some of Jordan Henderson's heavy workload during a long season, the pair doing the running for Steven Gerrard, who may be a diminished power at 34, but still remains an influential figure at Liverpool, as a totem as much as anything else. Lazar Markovic adds searing pace and skill. Adam Lallana is a damn sight slower, but no less direct.

Liverpool's much-maligned defence has been totally overhauled. Dejan Lovren already looks to the manner born, striding around Anfield during the friendly win over Borussia Dortmund as though he owned the gaff, loudly organising from the back, comfortable on the ball and no-nonsense off it. Early signs suggest he's both the loudmouth the team have been missing since the retirement of Jamie Carragher, and the cool-headed marshal absent since Sami Hyypia left in 2009.

Javier Manquillo, a right-back of rich promise, looked assured on the overlap against Dortmund, an instant hit, and much is expected of the more experienced Alberto Moreno on the left. The Spanish pair are a significant upgrade on last season's full back positions, a slightly unfair reflection perhaps of the admirable Jon Flanagan's efforts and abilities, less so of the often unacceptably ponderous Glen Johnson.

Comparisons, inevitably, are made to Tottenham Hotspur, who also recently lost their marquee player to La Liga and splurged big on new talent. But comparisons are odious. For a start, if they're being made to illustrate the struggles Liverpool are likely to face this season, they don't do a very good job of it: Spurs finished last season only three points shy of the total they managed the previous year with Gareth Bale in their team. Some collapse. Secondly, and perhaps more pertinently, Spurs were dumping their plethora of new signings into a team without any discernible system or philosophy.

Rodgers might have his faults - he could do with reining in the pseudo philosophical patter, dishing out unsolicited advice to the likes of Louis van Gaal, needlessly making himself a hostage to fortune - but he's established a coherent framework at Anfield, where players are comfortable on the ball, able to keep possession, break quickly at will, and interchange without totally losing shape. Statistically, some of Liverpool's new signings are destined to fail, but at least they'll have a fighting chance of success, working as they are to a tightly defined brief.

There's also an increased depth to the squad necessary for their first Champions League campaign in five years. Those extra matches, contrary to received wisdom, should not hinder their league campaign; a decent run, in fact, may inspire them domestically.

Not that Rodgers would say no to another big-name striker. Daniel Sturridge has a tendency to pick up knocks and niggles, and while Rickie Lambert will surprise many with his adroit link-up play, the aging local hero is unlikely to contribute a John Aldridgesque quantity of goals to make up the Suarez deficit. The collapse of the Loic Remy deal may come back to haunt them.

But do they need to make up all those goals anyway? Liverpool scored 101 times last season. If Lambert can chip in a mere 10, if Lovren saves a similar number at the back, they'd be only 11 goals worse off overall, and still scoring more than everyone but Manchester City last time round. And this is all without factoring in a full season of brilliance from Sterling, who only really started to contribute last season at the turn of the year, and the ever-increasing influence of Philippe Coutinho, determined to prove Brazil wrong after leaving him out of their World Cup squad.

There's also the fact that Liverpool, for all Suarez's brilliance, were actually statistically better whenever their star man was missing during his three-year stay at Anfield. And in any case, star men don't always stuff all hope in their suitcases when they clear off. Spurs haven't crumbled post-Bale, and Manchester United didn't do too badly after Cristiano Ronaldo upped sticks: two titles in four years, and the other two missed by one point and a couple of goals. And that was without the sort of heavy reinvestment Liverpool have made this summer.

A bounce-back title win, a homage to the teams of 1901, 1973 and 1990, might be just out of Liverpool's reach this season. Then again, it's not the ludicrous pipe dream everyone seems to think it is. Last season needn't be a one-off. Liverpool slipped. They go again.

- Scott Murray


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3 points is what matters.

Mignolet needs to command his area more but he is a brilliant shot stopper, amazing save at the end to tip it on to the bar. Manquillo showed Johnson what a full back should be like, was very impressed and hope he stays at RB with Moreno coming in at LB in a week or two. Lovren was beastly and won almost everything against a very difficult CF in Pelle. Skrtel was fine .

Gerrard and Lucas is a partnership with not enough mobility. There were no midfield options in front of the back four because they both sat really deep and neither of them are ball carriers. We saw when Allen came on how much we improved because Allen would pick it up, drive at the defence and midfield and open up space for the front three. Allen was crucial in us getting back on top and I was very impressed. He or Can should be starting from now on and I think Lucas might have been in the shop window a little bit there.

Coutinho was shadowed by Wanyama all game (who was fantastic) and tried too hard when on the ball. Needed to drop deeper and pick up the ball, he had his back to goal all the time and it's not his game.

Sterling showed blistering pace and is going to be a fantastic outlet. Worked tirelessly in defence, pressing closing down etc. Sturridge quiet but scored the winner, did his job.

Moreno in for GJ and Can/Allen for Lucas and that's a much better team. Markovic and Lallana to come in too which is a plus. Still think we need another top quality option in the front third in case Studge gets injured (we all know he will)
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Thanks imno for the brief - whilst in china I couldn't get a stream so could just check match day thread and get sms's from one of my boys (good lad he is).
Banking 3 points is all that matters !

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3 points is what matters.

Mignolet needs to command his area more but he is a brilliant shot stopper, amazing save at the end to tip it on to the bar. Manquillo showed Johnson what a full back should be like, was very impressed and hope he stays at RB with Moreno coming in at LB in a week or two. Lovren was beastly and won almost everything against a very difficult CF in Pelle. Skrtel was fine .

Gerrard and Lucas is a partnership with not enough mobility. There were no midfield options in front of the back four because they both sat really deep and neither of them are ball carriers. We saw when Allen came on how much we improved because Allen would pick it up, drive at the defence and midfield and open up space for the front three. Allen was crucial in us getting back on top and I was very impressed. He or Can should be starting from now on and I think Lucas might have been in the shop window a little bit there.

Coutinho was shadowed by Wanyama all game (who was fantastic) and tried too hard when on the ball. Needed to drop deeper and pick up the ball, he had his back to goal all the time and it's not his game.

Sterling showed blistering pace and is going to be a fantastic outlet. Worked tirelessly in defence, pressing closing down etc. Sturridge quiet but scored the winner, did his job.

Moreno in for GJ and Can/Allen for Lucas and that's a much better team. Markovic and Lallana to come in too which is a plus. Still think we need another top quality option in the front third in case Studge gets injured (we all know he will)


Great summary, I agree with most of that. I thought Manquillo looked a bit shaky and at times in the wrong positions but that will get better over coming weeks. Looking forward to Moreno coming in and replacing Johnson, leaving Flano, Johno and Manquillo to fight it out for the RB spot.
I'd like to see Can play along with Henderson in midfield and Gerrard just behind them, but I must say I was very impressed with Allen when came on. Hopefully he comes of age this season. Looked a lot more composed than what we've seen in the past.
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Thought rodgers made the right substitutions, Allen came on and we started to regain the midfeild, lambert came on to give us 2 up front and we started to look dangerous.

Lucas' role is is pretty much redundant. I don't think he's a bad player, but he doesn't suit how we want play. John glenson needs to be replaced by Moreno next week, he's a shadow of his former self, glen johnson.

Most disappointed with Coutinho, I think he will play better when the other team pushes a bit mor that Southampton did.

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Good points

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You got to give the Count a break - just the weak before against Dortmund he tore it apart, sounds like things didn't go his way more due to squad line up.
Poor ol Lucas who had been such a strong defensive mid now is being pushed out due to the attacking influence of BR and players coming in - great overall shame for he.
SG can be the DM as he was playing most of last season for now its outside attacking fit players who can recover when in defense like Hendo, Can hopefully is similar but we haven't seen him enough as yet.

Mignolet certainly is good on his line but has shown wrong decisions when having to come out or defending a corner.
Maybe not his forte ? or he's not getting the support enough from his CB's ?

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He's fine, he just has poor distribution.
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Mignolet's not strong enough, he got out muscled by (I believe) tadic when the ball went high in the air. If you're not going to be able to catch it, punch the thing.

I'm not gonna criticize his distribution. The way we play, he gets back passes all the time under pressure and looks for the pass to his fullbacks. It's better than him kicking it long down the middle, it fall to their player and being stuck in no mans land like I've seen several keepers do this week. Any new keeper we get will have to learn this role which Mignolet has been playing for a year now and has been getting better at. It could be a bit quicker and sharper, but I don't think it's cost us many, if any goals.

Overall it's hard to pick a MOTM for this game. Toss up between Lovren, sterling and Mignolet for me.

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Bought this today...



Not bad at all.
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They're very good those books. Always good to look at some of the old contracts and tickets etc.
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Wow. Didn't realise this. Hendo's dad had got diagnosed with cancer last year. See below:




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AC Milan have confirmed we're in negotiations to sign Mario Balotelli.


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RedKat wrote:
Sounds like we've pretty much signed Balotelli


I wouldn't want him anywhere near my club tbh, he's a child.

I'm disappointed about this, I was very glad to see the back of him in the EPL.
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RedKat wrote:
Sounds like we've pretty much signed Balotelli
Probably bullshit but I've heard something like a 12 month loan with option to buy. That would be would be perfect imo.

If 12 months with Brendan won't change him nothing will. In BR we trust
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tbitm wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Sounds like we've pretty much signed Balotelli
Probably bullshit but I've heard something like a 12 month loan with option to buy. That would be would be perfect imo.

If 12 months with Brendan won't change him nothing will. In BR we trust
Nevermind that, apparent ac won't accept that.

I still want him though, he's world class and at 24 for £16-18 mil, it's a steal.
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