Some idea's to create a stronger NSwpL
- move to summer
- End P & R altogether
- Create a 16 team competition by poaching Brisbane Strikers, Canberra FC , Melbourne Knights, South Melbourne
- make BWE v < insert Cro club here > open to juniors and women only

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It worked in Turkey didn't it? better than being locked out like they have been for the past 5 years.

It's very simple how to create a stronger NSwpL. Exclude clubs that represent single communities (like they did with the A-League) and replace them with broadly-based community clubs (like they did with the A-League) and see the NSwoL prosper and get stronger. And don't worry where the money will come from. The minute the business sector and Fox tv realise they are dealing with broadly-based community clubs, they'll come running. It's not rocket science really.


Edited by newfootball: 1/10/2011 06:30:43 PM

its pretty good as it is.
promotion and relegation makes it interesting. theres a reason why the a league wants to have promotion and relegation one day
moving to summer is an interesting one. it may help.
i think they have the right amount of teams as is. maybe introduce canberra in division 2 and if they get promoted up then fair enough. i wouldnt introduce any victoria or queensland teams though. after all it is NWSPL.
with BWE and SU, i wouldnt mind opening it to juniors and their parents.

so you don't think that creating a national 2nd div by expanding the NSWPL with clubs from other states in a process like the ones used by NSWRL, VFL and in the same breath recreate the NSL to "re-unite the code" would not work in this context?

To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing clubs like Marconi and Olympic dead within 10-15 years (I know that sounds awful but hear me out).

We would be far better off having a Parramatta team, a Penrith team, a Wollongong team, a Sutherland team, an Eastern Suburbs team, a Leichardt team, a Bankstown team, a Campbelltown team, possibly Blacktown, Chatswood team, Manly team, Central Coast team. That's 12 easy teams right there that would improve everything. Possibly Bathurst and Hornsby-Castle Hill could be included too. No Marconi and Olympic would be a good move if you ask me, racially based clubs will never advance the sport in this country, much as it will be a sad day to see them fade.

Ok so if we did that, of the 12 clubs in the NSWPL in this past season you would be getting rid of,
Sydney United
Sydney Olympic
Marconi
APIA
Bonnyrigg
Rockdale
Bankstown
Parramatta

Might aswell just disband the league and start again.



And why do these clubs have to die? What are they doing in the NSWPL that's so wrong? You wanna talk about advancing football in this country. These 'racially based clubs' are the ones that have helped bring football to where it is today. Why can't people just leave these clubs alone. Why are people so determined to see these clubs gone.

Edited by sydneycroatia58: 1/10/2011 11:33:45 PM

F*cking oath. You telling me that the NSL lasted on Australian football lovers, and the ethnic teams brought it down. The APIA's, Marconi's, South Melb's, OH-LYM-PIC's were the beginning of football in Aus as much as we'd hate to mention it. Read Les Murray's Shelias, Wogs and Poofta's and you'll see exactly my, SydCro's and these clubs' points.

In relation to your supposed "new NSWPL," you've got to be kidding me. A Campbelltown team? If you had any knowledge of the NSWPL you'd know Macarthur Rams spent a year there in 2008(or 07?) and got pulled down to NSWSL the next year due to a dismal preformance from Seniors and Youth. Penrith Nepean are another example who went bust at the end of the 2009 season. Logistically, yeah it sounds alright, but research, believe it or not by FNSW, has been put in, and teams just don't survive out there.

So anyway lets go through your list of supposed teams:

Parramatta - Inevitably attract Melita fans back
Penrith - Penrith Nepean went bust, can't see a resurecting club
Wollongong - 3 new names in 3 years(Wolves, Community Fc, Sth Coast Wolves), another change is just what they need...
Sutherland - What's wrong with the current one?
Eastern Suburbs - Sydney Uni are the only Eastern team, they hardly attract crowds/Sydney Fc dominate
Leichardt - As like Parra, APIA will always be known
Bankstown - No money, and inside news says they will be in NSWSL in 2012
Campbelltown - Macarthur Rams? Not the best attmept at being a PL club...
Blacktown - Two Blacktown teams will be in NSWPL 2011, with Demons a stronger team, leave as is?
Chatswood - Spirit FC compete in NSWSL and have been on the verge of promotion for years
Manly - Current club is fine as is
Central Coast - With the new alliance with CC youth and Mariners, there are no more CC seniors
Bathurst - Costs/time involved. The youth play in NSWSYL and its a burden already at a younger age

What sh*ts me the most about comments like this is the breeding of football in NSW belongs in Edensor Park,Bossely Park, Bonyrigg etc. The amount of talent currently there and have been produced is amazing. Plenty of the Socceroos, current or ex, have come through these Ethnic clubs everyone is so keen to get rid of. Remove them, and you remove fine institutes which have paved the way for future football in Australia

In other news, after my rant, inside information is that FNSW are looking to put season 2013 in Summer.

I like it, I like it!

I don't think I would mind seeing Perth Glory dead in the next 5-10 years.

your right the players these clubs produce is fantastic, the problem is the supporters they say they are passionate about there team, supporters from opposition teams say there abusive and i tend to agree, being told to fuck off is pretty poor form especialy when its directed at women. Also supporters throwing objects at players is not on either and it does happen.

oh, but let's ignore the fact that Sydney FC fans chanted and celebrated the Victorian Bushfires huh?

Fuck off you hypocritical piece of shit.

You do realise how difficult it was for Frank Lowy and John O'Neil to put together the current A-League teams we have? Let alone find funders for these teams?

You do realise how difficult it is currently for some teams to find corporate support?

You do realise how difficult it has been to keep these teams alive the past 6 years? Adelaide for over a year, Newcastle for some time, Brisbane for a season, Perth for a season, North Queensland are dead, Auckland are dead, Wellington was in peril.

If money is so scarce on the big stage... the popular and mainstream A-League, do you really expect new investors to come forward on a state level, particularly where interest and promotion is near zero? And where their club will have zero chance of being promoted to any national tier anyway?

May I ask what the hell you are on about/referring to sir?

Sasha trying to make out that only 'ethnic' club has supporters that are bad.

Ah I get you now. And I support you. It's easy to say that, but every group has the hooligans and the 'civilised' crowds, regardless to race. I'm sure if Bonyrigg and Sydney United ever opened their gates again, people would attend to watch football. There'll just be that 'other' type of crowd trying to kill each other...

When BWE and Sydney United are only get 800 people watching their games, then they play each other and there's 5000 people, you have to question the motives of the other 3000-4000 people.

listen here boy my heritage is from the same part of the world as you, im giveing you a reasion as to why the state league clubs dont get better crowds. A lot of people tell me they wont go to some grounds because of crowd abuse, and thats my opinion as to why the state league clubs will always struggle for sponsors and growd numbers

your responce echoed my point

But then you conveniently ignored my point huh?

seriously people who think like this, need to wake up.
ABUSE IS COMMON IN EVERY SINGLE SPORT.
so lets get rid of all the a league teams cos when you go watch a game theres abuse there. would that be fair?
to say NSWPL needs an entire re structure due to abuse in the crowds is picking at straws. cant even believe that this abuse in the crowds is an issue. harden up

and in 10 years time we will still be debating why the state league is still struggleing.

So a 10k crowd today for the GF between two ethnic teams, and the only 2 teams in the competition that would draw that kind of crowd.

Bur of course let's get rid of the bog bad ethnic teams.

Congratulations to Sydney Olympic for winning todays grand final, 10,000+ is a wonderful crowd, good to see Robbie Slater, Bosnich, Mel Mclaughlin etc there, Mike Cockerill also did a brilliant write up in the sydney morning herald previewing the game.

The equivalent type of match in Melbourne wouldnt even be attended by football personalities let alone our chief football writers, really hits home how far ahead the nswpl is compared to the vpl.

Distressing thing about the VPL final was that it was played at the home venue of both Melbourne A-League sides and not one official representative of Victory or Heart was present.

Home venue yes, but were still just tenants. Correct though I would of though Heart would of been present because of their whole ''community minded'' approach.

Edited by nhub24: 3/10/2011 07:06:15 PM

10,000+ crowd.
2-0 win.
Currently at a Greek taverna celebrating with the boys.

Can't get better then that.

I wanna congratulate SUS, you guys were awesome today.

Bad luck to Sydney United, u guys played great.

Great GF

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That is absolute rubbish. We held up a banner in mourning and respect for them.