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I don't think you should do anything to anyone calling for Shariah law, what I do want though is for a degree of equality to work here. If people can call for shariah and burn poppies then why can't people say what they think of them? I think if you're going to allow for one, you must allow for the other. If you wish to ban one, you must ban the other. I think criminalising speech breeds a worse hatred no matter what that speech would've entailed.

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If people can call for shariah and burn poppies then why can't people say what they think of them?

Because 10 people saying/doing something stupid and 200,000 people ignoring them makes us the better people.
10 people saying/doing something stupid and 200,000 people abusing them for that turns us all into bullies and inspires hate crimes.
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KenGooner_GCU wrote:
I don't think you should do anything to anyone calling for Shariah law, what I do want though is for a degree of equality to work here. If people can call for shariah and burn poppies then why can't people say what they think of them? I think if you're going to allow for one, you must allow for the other. If you wish to ban one, you must ban the other. I think criminalising speech breeds a worse hatred no matter what that speech would've entailed.


This.

If they want to do that, don't crack the shits when someone draws a comic about Mohammed.

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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paulbagzFC wrote:
KenGooner_GCU wrote:
I don't think you should do anything to anyone calling for Shariah law, what I do want though is for a degree of equality to work here. If people can call for shariah and burn poppies then why can't people say what they think of them? I think if you're going to allow for one, you must allow for the other. If you wish to ban one, you must ban the other. I think criminalising speech breeds a worse hatred no matter what that speech would've entailed.


This.

If they want to do that, don't crack the shits when someone draws a comic about Mohammed.

-PB
Good luck making this argument to someone who cracks the shits over a drawing.
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thupercoach wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
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I don't think you should do anything to anyone calling for Shariah law, what I do want though is for a degree of equality to work here. If people can call for shariah and burn poppies then why can't people say what they think of them? I think if you're going to allow for one, you must allow for the other. If you wish to ban one, you must ban the other. I think criminalising speech breeds a worse hatred no matter what that speech would've entailed.


This.

If they want to do that, don't crack the shits when someone draws a comic about Mohammed.

-PB
Good luck making this argument to someone who cracks the shits over a drawing.


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Airplane from Pakistan to London has been escorted by a fighter jet.
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The armed police took 20 minutes to respond to the Woolwich incident, thankfully the islamofacists decided against a rampage that day or we could have been talking about 20 dead instead of 1 whilst the unarmed useless British police stood by helplessly
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BBC backtracks on climate change

Climate slowdown means extreme rates of warming 'not as likely'

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Scientists say the recent downturn in the rate of global warming will lead to lower temperature rises in the short-term.

Since 1998, there has been an unexplained "standstill" in the heating of the Earth's atmosphere.

Writing in Nature Geoscience, the researchers say this will reduce predicted warming in the coming decades.

But long-term, the expected temperature rises will not alter significantly.

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The most extreme projections are looking less likely than before”

Dr Alexander Otto
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The slowdown in the expected rate of global warming has been studied for several years now. Earlier this year, the UK Met Office lowered their five-year temperature forecast.

But this new paper gives the clearest picture yet of how any slowdown is likely to affect temperatures in both the short-term and long-term.

An international team of researchers looked at how the last decade would impact long-term, equilibrium climate sensitivity and the shorter term climate response.

Transient nature
Climate sensitivity looks to see what would happen if we doubled concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere and let the Earth's oceans and ice sheets respond to it over several thousand years.

Transient climate response is much shorter term calculation again based on a doubling of CO2.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reported in 2007 that the short-term temperature rise would most likely be 1-3C (1.8-5.4F).

But in this new analysis, by only including the temperatures from the last decade, the projected range would be 0.9-2.0C.

"The hottest of the models in the medium-term, they are actually looking less likely or inconsistent with the data from the last decade alone," said Dr Alexander Otto from the University of Oxford.

"The most extreme projections are looking less likely than before."

The authors calculate that over the coming decades global average temperatures will warm about 20% more slowly than expected.

But when it comes to the longer term picture, the authors say their work is consistent with previous estimates. The IPCC said that climate sensitivity was in the range of 2.0-4.5C.

Ocean storage
This latest research, including the decade of stalled temperature rises, produces a range of 0.9-5.0C.

"It is a bigger range of uncertainty," said Dr Otto.

"But it still includes the old range. We would all like climate sensitivity to be lower but it isn't."

The researchers say the difference between the lower short-term estimate and the more consistent long-term picture can be explained by the fact that the heat from the last decade has been absorbed into and is being stored by the world's oceans.

Not everyone agrees with this perspective.

Prof Steven Sherwood, from the University of New South Wales, says the conclusion about the oceans needs to be taken with a grain of salt for now.

"There is other research out there pointing out that this storage may be part of a natural cycle that will eventually reverse, either due to El Nino or the so-called Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, and therefore may not imply what the authors are suggesting," he said.

The authors say there are ongoing uncertainties surrounding the role of aerosols in the atmosphere and around the issue of clouds.

"We would expect a single decade to jump around a bit but the overall trend is independent of it, and people should be exactly as concerned as before about what climate change is doing," said Dr Otto.

Is there any succour in these findings for climate sceptics who say the slowdown over the past 14 years means the global warming is not real?

"None. No comfort whatsoever," he said.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22567023
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Nice work throwing "BBC backtracks on climate change" in there like it's the headline. #-o
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afromanGT wrote:
Nice work throwing "BBC backtracks on climate change" in there like it's the headline. #-o


Because it goes against their "one world government" "EU" "Earthians" agenda
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Would you like more tin foil for your hat? It's against forum rules to misrepresent a story.

Edited by afromanGT: 25/5/2013 02:25:02 AM
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afromanGT wrote:
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paulbagzFC wrote:
KenGooner_GCU wrote:
I don't think you should do anything to anyone calling for Shariah law, what I do want though is for a degree of equality to work here. If people can call for shariah and burn poppies then why can't people say what they think of them? I think if you're going to allow for one, you must allow for the other. If you wish to ban one, you must ban the other. I think criminalising speech breeds a worse hatred no matter what that speech would've entailed.


This.

If they want to do that, don't crack the shits when someone draws a comic about Mohammed.

-PB
Good luck making this argument to someone who cracks the shits over a drawing.

This exactly
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lukerobinho wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
Nice work throwing "BBC backtracks on climate change" in there like it's the headline. #-o


Because it goes against their "one world government" "EU" "Earthians" agenda

Gotta love climate change deniers.
Will attack peer reviewed science when it contradicts their crackpot ideology, yet when it supposedly supports it, they will use it in their arsenal.
The article & paper linked only refer to short term warming. The long term outcome is unchanged & disastrous.
Sorry right wingers. Endless economic growth must be cut by the less painful option of choice or the more painful alternative of mother nature.
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Riots in Sweden..

http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/multiculturalism-blamed-for-violent-muslim-riots/

[youtube]BfxzeXR8QqA[/youtube]

Edited by iridium1010: 25/5/2013 12:51:35 PM
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Petrol bombing of Mosque in U.K.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22654435
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Petrol bombing of Mosque in U.K.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22654435

So this is the start of retaliation attacks.
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afromanGT wrote:
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If people can call for shariah and burn poppies then why can't people say what they think of them?

Because 10 people saying/doing something stupid and 200,000 people ignoring them makes us the better people.
10 people saying/doing something stupid and 200,000 people abusing them for that turns us all into bullies and inspires hate crimes.

The hate crime and the bullying is happening because people can't have an open and frank discussion about racism without falling under the crime of "inciting racial hatred." Nobody is ignoring anything, to suggest that people are not paying attention to extremists completely defeats this discussion. It may appear that people are ignoring the extremism, but that simply isn't the case; what is happening is that people's opinions are being brushed under the carpet under the guise of eliminating racial hatred and that, in itself, is breeding a hatred more sinister than any "bullying" could muster.

The better people may turn the other cheek, but that isn't the same as telling the less morally inclined to be quiet or wind up a criminal. Criminalising speech is breeding hate crimes, the evidence speaks for itself.

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The hate crime and the bullying is happening because people can't have an open and frank discussion about racism without falling under the crime of "inciting racial hatred."

People can't have an open and frank discussion though. They're too stupid. RAther than having an "open" discussion they're trying to set a mosque on fire.
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afromanGT wrote:
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The hate crime and the bullying is happening because people can't have an open and frank discussion about racism without falling under the crime of "inciting racial hatred."

People can't have an open and frank discussion though. They're too stupid. RAther than having an "open" discussion they're trying to set a mosque on fire.

Revenge attacks are happening because they can't have an open discussion, because it's been swept under the carpet for years.

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afromanGT wrote:
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The hate crime and the bullying is happening because people can't have an open and frank discussion about racism without falling under the crime of "inciting racial hatred."

People can't have an open and frank discussion though. They're too stupid. RAther than having an "open" discussion they're trying to set a mosque on fire.
Only the stupid, racist extremists.

But without a doubt one of the many problems is that we are unable to have a debate about Muslim immigration and lack of integration without being labelled racist, by people like you btw. People are shying away from a frank discussion as it's considered racist to discuss it. But that doesn't mean people aren't thinking it.

IMO questions need to be asked about why acts io terror emanate mostly from the Muslim communities rather than from anywhere else. It isn't racist to say that nor is it wrong to have a frank discussion around it without being labelled racist. Why these terrorists scream they're doing it for Islam. Who and what are they listening to?

And I'm sick to death of the "most Muslims are not like that" argument. Everyone knows that. And yet people are getting killed in different parts of the world by people believing they're doing it for Allah. Something is pretty fked up there.
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afromanGT wrote:
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The hate crime and the bullying is happening because people can't have an open and frank discussion about racism without falling under the crime of "inciting racial hatred."

People can't have an open and frank discussion though. They're too stupid. RAther than having an "open" discussion they're trying to set a mosque on fire.


Trying to have a rational discussion about problems facing their religion is hard, especially (as thupercoach mentioned) when they are the type of people who crack the shits over a drawing over their prophet.
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And I'm sick to death of the "most Muslims are not like that" argument. Everyone knows that. And yet people are getting killed in different parts of the world by people believing they're doing it for Allah. Something is pretty fked up there.

Are you sick to death of the same people that make the excuses about the Catholic Church? Everyone knows that not all Catholics rape children, of course... And yet children are still being rapped in different parts of the world that are then protected and shuffled around from dioceses to dioceses.

A pity that we can't have a frank and open discussion about child raping priests without being called "hateful atheists".
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The hate crime and the bullying is happening because people can't have an open and frank discussion about racism without falling under the crime of "inciting racial hatred."

People can't have an open and frank discussion though. They're too stupid. RAther than having an "open" discussion they're trying to set a mosque on fire.

Revenge attacks are happening because they can't have an open discussion, because it's been swept under the carpet for years.

I disagree. These attacks happen because these people lack the intellectual tools and capacity to have an articulate discussion on the matter.
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And I'm sick to death of the "most Muslims are not like that" argument. Everyone knows that. And yet people are getting killed in different parts of the world by people believing they're doing it for Allah. Something is pretty fked up there.

Are you sick to death of the same people that make the excuses about the Catholic Church? Everyone knows that not all Catholics rape children, of course... And yet children are still being rapped in different parts of the world that are then protected and shuffled around from dioceses to dioceses.

A pity that we can't have a frank and open discussion about child raping priests without being called "hateful atheists".


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afromanGT wrote:
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The hate crime and the bullying is happening because people can't have an open and frank discussion about racism without falling under the crime of "inciting racial hatred."

People can't have an open and frank discussion though. They're too stupid. RAther than having an "open" discussion they're trying to set a mosque on fire.

Revenge attacks are happening because they can't have an open discussion, because it's been swept under the carpet for years.

I disagree. These attacks happen because these people lack the intellectual tools and capacity to have an articulate discussion on the matter.
People who want to blow shit up aren't the kind of people who want to have a rational discussion. They already know all they need to know. Just ask them.
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People who want to blow shit up aren't the kind of people who want to have a rational discussion. They already know all they need to know. Just ask them.

You're not having a discussion with islamic extremists, you're having a discussion about them.

These people can't say anything but "all muzzies are mental". They can't differentiate between these extremists and peaceful, respectful muslims. They lack the tools to have this discussion.
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notorganic wrote:
thupercoach wrote:

And I'm sick to death of the "most Muslims are not like that" argument. Everyone knows that. And yet people are getting killed in different parts of the world by people believing they're doing it for Allah. Something is pretty fked up there.

Are you sick to death of the same people that make the excuses about the Catholic Church? Everyone knows that not all Catholics rape children, of course... And yet children are still being rapped in different parts of the world that are then protected and shuffled around from dioceses to dioceses.

A pity that we can't have a frank and open discussion about child raping priests without being called "hateful atheists".

Nobody is stopping you from saying anything though, are they? A few weeks ago you posted a thread which was clearly taking aim at religion, you weren't arrested for inciting racial or religious hatred.

Well Afro, people may lack the "mental faculties", but now we're seeing ordinary people joining them because they can't have a discussion on the issues, and that is what will cause hate crimes.

Look at the EDL, started with 10 people in Luton and now they're thousands strong. Some of these blokes come from old hooligan firms with a distinct reputation for not being racist. Look at Bevrik, in Norway a similar law is in action, Bevrik claimed that he may not have been so radical if he could've expressed his views without fear of the law, no matter how extreme they may have been. Maybe that wouldn't be the case, it's just speculation, but it doesn't detract from the point I'm making. Neo-Nazism in Europe is at its height, and instead of taking to speech they've taken to violence - they'll wind up in jail either way.

No matter how stupid you think these people are, sweeping all this under the carpet is creating an undercurrent of violence. More and more ordinary people are becoming a part of it. If these people were allowed to speak their views, they would not need to resort to violence.

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KenGooner, I think the obvious question that needs to be asked, and probably highlights on what you have been saying, is why is it a second generation Englishman of Nigerian descent from a devout Christian family is attracted to Islam...where has society failed...and if not why not?

And not just Islam as a faith but to the more extreme and radical elements of Isam....there are clearly some major social and economic factors at play in English society and if we're honest...Australia is probably at risk of replicating similar societal problems.

Edited by Joffa: 25/5/2013 06:26:33 PM
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No matter how stupid you think these people are, sweeping all this under the carpet is creating an undercurrent of violence. More and more ordinary people are becoming a part of it. If these people were allowed to speak their views, they would not need to resort to violence.

Even if they could speak openly about it, what would it achieve? Y'know, other than a Dolly Magazine style verbal cleansing. And probably inspire these meat-heads into more violent actions.
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afromanGT wrote:
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No matter how stupid you think these people are, sweeping all this under the carpet is creating an undercurrent of violence. More and more ordinary people are becoming a part of it. If these people were allowed to speak their views, they would not need to resort to violence.

Even if they could speak openly about it, what would it achieve? Y'know, other than a Dolly Magazine style verbal cleansing. And probably inspire these meat-heads into more violent actions.

It would bring it out of the underground and into the public sphere where people can laugh at them anyway! Besides, look at what criminalising speech is inspiring!

I mean, how is it morally right to restrict speech? Surely we as a society are better than that.

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