Do you support the FFV or the clubs who are unhappy with the current NPL requirements


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Juve_Leo wrote:
if there is that many clubs opposed to what the FFV is trying to implement, something must be wrong.


There is a lot to consider as a Director, and this applies to Incorporated Associations, there are 761 ways to go to jail.

A start would be to enter the NPLV with a budget showing a loss, that is trading while technically insolvent which would require the Directors to guarantee the losses to avoid the courts.

Some of the clubs intending to enter will have mum and dad directors.

Like I said Good Luck.

Edited by Arthur: 7/8/2013 08:20:01 PM
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southmelb wrote:
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Well I'm from Ballarat and as such would like to see top flight state football in regional Victoria. We Ballarat City Council need a justification for pouring millions of dollars into the new state of the art Ballarat Regional Soccer Facility. The current bid Ballarat bid is very keen to get involved in the new NPLV so I'm in favour of the FFV. In this franchise model it would be nice to see football outside of Melbourne.


You already have a team sitting down near the bottom in state league 2, why should they get an easy passage to the top?


It is not a "passage to the top" - but a "passage to the future". This is what you and others need to get your heads around. The game is changing and this country's footballing community has decided that it should and that it will. Regional teams are working hard to participate in a way that builds football for their communities and ultimately - they have agreed to do so within a framework that does this in the interests of the entire game. Fair play to them I say.

The cries of "No South no APL" have only recently subsided as the awful reality of A-League success dawned upon them. I pray South don’t make the same mistake twice. I want South in the NPL (and the A-League one day), but more importantly, I want them bringing their considerable energy and intellectual power to the national football development and competition pyramid in the interests of the entire game. Fingers crossed.

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mahony wrote:
southmelb wrote:
imonfourfourtwo wrote:
Well I'm from Ballarat and as such would like to see top flight state football in regional Victoria. We Ballarat City Council need a justification for pouring millions of dollars into the new state of the art Ballarat Regional Soccer Facility. The current bid Ballarat bid is very keen to get involved in the new NPLV so I'm in favour of the FFV. In this franchise model it would be nice to see football outside of Melbourne.


You already have a team sitting down near the bottom in state league 2, why should they get an easy passage to the top?


It is not a "passage to the top" - but a "passage to the future". This is what you and others need to get your heads around. The game is changing and this country's footballing community has decided that it should and that it will. Regional teams are working hard to participate in a way that builds football for their communities and ultimately - they have agreed to do so within a framework that does this in the interests of the entire game. Fair play to them I say.

The cries of "No South no APL" have only recently subsided as the awful reality of A-League success dawned upon them. I pray South don’t make the same mistake twice. I want South in the NPL (and the A-League one day), but more importantly, I want them bringing their considerable energy and intellectual power to the national football development and competition pyramid in the interests of the entire game. Fingers crossed.


Once again, why focus on South Melbourne rather than the other 50 clubs who have signed up in this process? As influential as we'd like to think our club is, I don't think anyone believes that we are strong enough to convince 50 other clubs to sign up against the FFV unless there is an extremely strong reason to do so. Namely, that all 50 believe they would be out of business within 3 years of getting into the NPL.
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mahony wrote:
southmelb wrote:
imonfourfourtwo wrote:
Well I'm from Ballarat and as such would like to see top flight state football in regional Victoria. We Ballarat City Council need a justification for pouring millions of dollars into the new state of the art Ballarat Regional Soccer Facility. The current bid Ballarat bid is very keen to get involved in the new NPLV so I'm in favour of the FFV. In this franchise model it would be nice to see football outside of Melbourne.


You already have a team sitting down near the bottom in state league 2, why should they get an easy passage to the top?


It is not a "passage to the top" - but a "passage to the future". This is what you and others need to get your heads around. The game is changing and this country's footballing community has decided that it should and that it will. Regional teams are working hard to participate in a way that builds football for their communities and ultimately - they have agreed to do so within a framework that does this in the interests of the entire game. Fair play to them I say.

The cries of "No South no APL" have only recently subsided as the awful reality of A-League success dawned upon them. I pray South don’t make the same mistake twice. I want South in the NPL (and the A-League one day), but more importantly, I want them bringing their considerable energy and intellectual power to the national football development and competition pyramid in the interests of the entire game. Fingers crossed.


This giving every child a 'participation award' type mentality just breeds mediocrity. If regional or any other lowly club is fair dinkum and wants to earn respect, street cred etc then they must work their way to the top and not be handed a spot for free. It's what happens all over the world, no exceptions. This sense of entitlement approach is promoted by those that are simply lazy and use the bullshit line "but...but it's the good of the game" to push their agenda. Unfortunately that is not how the real world operates, you gotta work hard to achieve anything in life.
Toughen up you self entitled, lazy bitches and EARN your spot.
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Benjamin wrote:
mahony wrote:
southmelb wrote:
imonfourfourtwo wrote:
Well I'm from Ballarat and as such would like to see top flight state football in regional Victoria. We Ballarat City Council need a justification for pouring millions of dollars into the new state of the art Ballarat Regional Soccer Facility. The current bid Ballarat bid is very keen to get involved in the new NPLV so I'm in favour of the FFV. In this franchise model it would be nice to see football outside of Melbourne.


You already have a team sitting down near the bottom in state league 2, why should they get an easy passage to the top?


It is not a "passage to the top" - but a "passage to the future". This is what you and others need to get your heads around. The game is changing and this country's footballing community has decided that it should and that it will. Regional teams are working hard to participate in a way that builds football for their communities and ultimately - they have agreed to do so within a framework that does this in the interests of the entire game. Fair play to them I say.

The cries of "No South no APL" have only recently subsided as the awful reality of A-League success dawned upon them. I pray South don’t make the same mistake twice. I want South in the NPL (and the A-League one day), but more importantly, I want them bringing their considerable energy and intellectual power to the national football development and competition pyramid in the interests of the entire game. Fingers crossed.


Once again, why focus on South Melbourne rather than the other 50 clubs who have signed up in this process? As influential as we'd like to think our club is, I don't think anyone believes that we are strong enough to convince 50 other clubs to sign up against the FFV unless there is an extremely strong reason to do so. Namely, that all 50 believe they would be out of business within 3 years of getting into the NPL.


I focus on South Melbourne because they are in 'another league' in the Victorian context. They are also my club. They are also leading the political campaign against the NPL-V proposition from the governing body. They are also in the box seat for A-league participation in the future. And to again answer your question - I don't confuse politics with righteousness. You assume that because individual clubs are today aligning themselves strategically with one another (and the status quo) that this somehow represents the final and absolute truth on the matter. I am not so naive. It is not as simple as we have 50 clubs so you have to accept we are correct. That is absurd and the FFA/FFV didn’t blink for a reason.
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You are one pathetic individual.

Most parties agree on something and have united, which has been pretty much impossible in the past. But that's still not good enough for you.

Fuck me dead :lol:
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I don't really like this zonal system.

If all essential criteria teams all come from the Melbourne CBD so be it.

Don't force things that don't need to be forced.

Same goes under Western Australia's system as well.

With South Australia there are two tiers now with 30 teams and only 1 team is a regional team.

Sad state of affairs and I hope a successful outcome is acheived because I am enjoying the progress of the NPL in my homestate.
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