FFA has no jurisdiction.

New NPL model sees room for regional sides to jump up to the top level of the comp, protects the best interests of the game (keeps the clubs strong, raises coaching standards, improves player pathways, raises general standards, etc.)

The sad thing is that mediation shouldn't be required - there should have been a genuine and open consultation from the start. I believe if there had been open consultation we would have ended up with something similar to the new proposal, but with perhaps more regional involvement, and far more good will between parties. Instead we have bitterness and the probability of a new FFV board within the next 12 months.

FFV Hierarchy is falling apart


GEELONG ADVERTISER
Court fight hits NPL plan
September 4th, 2013

AS North Geelong joins a 50-club consortium in court against the state game's governing body, Football Federation Victoria's plans to introduce its National Premier League for 2014 remain in jeopardy.

The co-signatories, including all Victorian Premier League clubs, are preparing their joint case for the Court of Arbitration for Sport, to seek changes to the current NPL criteria, with the date for mediation between the two parties set for September 23.

Meanwhile, an FFV official involved at the start of the application process for the mooted league believes the current administration is failing to cater to the needs of its member clubs.

"When it comes to issues with councils and clubs trying to explain the trouble of access to grounds, as well as costs, the board is simply burying their heads in the sand," said the source, who asked to remain unnamed.

"Now you have the issue of clubs taking the FFV to court, because there has been a complete breakdown in communication."

While the FFV released a statement acknowledging the mediation date, the governing body's CEO, Mitchell Murphy, declined to comment further.

One of the main points of contention with the current NPL criteria is access to required facilities, with several clubs failing to muster respective council support to host an elite competition over a 40-week period.

Other issues have arisen in terms of cost and the introduction of a player zoning and points system.

Through the zoning and points system, FFV hopes to promote youth development by encouraging clubs to bring players under the age of 25 up through their ranks, and provide a possible pathway to an A-League club.

The Geelong Advertiser understands, however, that the co-signatories have received backing from

Professional Footballers Australia against the points system, on the grounds of a restriction of trade.

North Geelong president Boo Sesar, who also confirmed the club's rejection of Geelong Galaxy's proposed access to its Elcho Park facility, shed light on the status of court proceedings. "At the moment, the case hasn't gone past the initial process. We're supporting the co-signatories in their stand against the new league coming out," he said.

While some areas of the criteria for the NPLV have been heavily scrutinised, it is widely believed that the main motivation for clubs to seek legal intervention has been the lack of bilateral dialogue between the clubs and FFV.

"The way the Federation has gone about it, we do not approve of, and we don't want anyone to dictate how we are to run our club in the future."

It's not falling apart you broken record, the board was always split..

Wrong Priest

Read it again..... But slower this time.

Thanks mate for the clarity.

http://ffvmedia.s3.amazonaws.com/FFVMembersResolutions6Sept2013.pdf

Not like I said anything about this :-" :lol: :twisted:

Wow - really! That is news to me, well it would have been if I had not already read the court documents at the moment they were listed for a hearing? Also, from memory, Pave mentioned it on twitter didn’t he? Or was it just his recent election? I cant remember. However, I like Pave. I have never met him, but he seems to be a very decent bloke who genuinely cares about Victorian club football, unlike some of the crazies on the interwebs.

Anyway, to the substantive point I was making. The individuals involved are not involved as individuals (hence the association) and the court could not care less if the plaintiffs are members (Constitutionally defined) of the FFV or two ‘randoms’ from the moon. It will be a legal decision made on its legal merits. Nothing more. Nothing Less.

Is this proposed 'General Meeting' to sack the board still going ahead? :-"

Did the proposed second Bulleeen General Meeting to sack their board and/or withdraw their NPLV application o ahead? I though it was schedulled for the 21st?

I will - but I am not even sure why :lol:

After days in hiding, mahoney finally returns after reading some second hand information on an internet blog :lol:

Onya matey \:d/

And to answer your question, yes I do believe it will be going ahead on Friday :-$

Yes - I was hiding. You got me.

Thanks for the answer - however it does raise the question about how a meeting that is not a General Meeting can remove the Board?

It was first hand information.

As long as you are prepared to admit you get your info from an internet blog that's fine by me :lol:

Mahony it wouldn't be right for me to comment while the Presidents technical director husband along with the senior coach is out of the country travelling business class to Italy accompanying the u16's team travelling at the back end of the plane . I have been told that if you happen to be in a looming plane crash ,then the back end of the plane is the safest place to be .It was also explained to me that it cost extra $$ up front & it's very lonely at the front end .... I guess some people just prefer their own company unaware there is a global financial crisis .....Que sera sera

https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/ffvmedia/ClubsRelease18FFVMedia300913.pdf


UPDATE No: 18 – 30 September 2013

To All Clubs & Co-Signatories – Release to FFA, FFV & Media

1. Magistrates Court today

At the Magistrates Court today the judge’s decision on the plaintiffs request for an injunction to halt the announcement of the FFV's NPL applicants has been delayed until Wednesday 2nd Oct. We will provide you with more information on that day.


2. FFV Zone Representatives vote to remove FFV Board and halt current NPLV

The minutes of the 27th Sept FFV Zone Representatives meeting have been submitted to the court this morning. The voting outcomes are below.

78% of the Zone Reps have passed the following Special Resolution to remove FFV Board


Special Resolution

That by reason of;

a) seeking to implement and establish its National Premier League (NPL) competition for Victoria, as provided for in the documents entitled 'Part 2-Participation Criteria' and 'Part-3 Participation Licence Agreement', produced and distributed by the FFV to football clubs and other interested parties in April 2013; and

b) continuing with its proposed establishment and implementation of the NPL competition described in sub-paragraph a), not withstanding that only 15 applications to participate in the NPL in 2014 were received by the FFV and that none of the applications were submitted by any current Victorian Premier League club;

the FFV Board of Directors are acting contrary to the best interests of Registered Participants and Clubs in Victoria, and the members of FFV hereby resolve, pursuant to section 78 of the Associations Incorporation Reform Act 2012, to remove all current FFV Directors from their positions.


100% of the Zone Reps have passed the below Resolution to halt the current NPLV

Resolution

That Football Federation Victoria Incorporated (FFV) immediately cease the establishment and implementation of its proposed National Premier League (NPL) competition for Victoria, as provided for in the documents entitled 'Part 2-Participation Criteria' and 'Part 3 Participation Licence Agreement', produced and distributed by the FFV to football clubs and other interested parties in April 2013.



3. Statement by Richmond Soccer Club 30th Sept 2013

RICHMOND SC JOINS LONG LIST OF DISGRUNTLED CLUBS

Release: Monday, 30 September 2013

Richmond Soccer Club has joined the other 59 Victorian Football Clubs in urging the FFV to listen to the member clubs, adopt the NPL in 2014 in a manner that is financially viable for all clubs and takes the game forward.

Whilst we still believe in the fundamental concept of an NPL are keen to be part of the NPL in 2014, to do so under the current terms and conditions would be fiscally irresponsible and delinquent of the board. For the avoidance of doubt we met with the FFV earlier this year to highlight the unviability of the NPL based on the criteria that were being set and the structure that was imposed by the FFV. We were hopeful that the FFV would come to adopt a more considered and conciliatory approach to the introduction of the NPL in the best interests of all parties but this has not been the case.

The Board of Richmond has observed with dismay the intransigence of the current FFV Board and its lack of desire to enter into any meaningful dialogue with clubs at all levels and skill level within Victoria. Additionally, the lack of governance and transparency is now being echoed by FFV board members (Mr. Da Zilva) which is extremely disconcerting and given rise to great concern that the President and board are not acting in the best interests of football in this state. It is apparent to Richmond Soccer Club that the present FFV board is not capable of making strategic decisions that will better the game moving forward.

We will continue to urge the FFV to stop the stubborn antics and bullying employed to date, behave in a manner that is befitting its' charter and focus the club funded resources in a manner that provides a positive outcome for football in the state. The current stalemate and inadequate NPL competition is not a solution to improving the level of football in the state, it is instead farcical. How the FFV board or any board can ignore the voice of the majority (60 clubs) is nonsensical and if not addressed immediately will have an irreversible impact on football in Victoria.

Richmond SC will continue to work with the other co-signatory clubs to achieve the outcome that represents common sense and prudent management to ensure our game develops in a positive manner and becomes the a strong viable code that we all want it to be.

Wolfgang Smoger
President



We would like to welcome the following co-signatory club in joining us in opposition to the FFVs attempt to alter the fundamental principles of our code:

- RICHMOND SOCCER CLUB

60 Clubs to date have joined the co-signatory group in a united voice for a viable and successful NPLV model rollout in 2014, which works for community, country/regional, state and NPL clubs.

These 60 Co-signatory clubs combined constitute over 100,000 football club members / supporters / youth teams / juniors / sub juniors / parents / coaches / administrators.



The Victorian football clubs will be scheduling a meeting to review what steps we need to take to protect the financial integrity of our football landscape. We will send out details shortly.


Our united position on the NPLV
1. We are all committed to a successful NPLV model rollout in 2014 which works for both community and NPL club.
2. The NPLV should be financially viable for all clubs, modelling by clubs reflects otherwise.
3. That the NPLV be introduced after proper consultation with the clubs and after taking genuine account of their concerns.
4. To date the FFV has not properly consulted the clubs but rather has merely informed us of how its proposed model will operate. Even the peak Council body that represents councils, Parks Leisure Australia, in a letter attached to all clubs (29th July) made reference and supported all of these similar concerns about the FFV's approach and failure to properly consult.
5. We are united and determined to work for the good of the game in Victoria. It is unprecedented in Australia that 60 clubs have come together in a united way.
6. No one can reasonably argue that the NPLV could proceed viably, let alone succeed, without the participation of the top 30-60 clubs in Victoria at all levels: Men, Women, Junior Boys and Girls.
7. The 60 clubs are all run by volunteers who have no personal financial interest in any of these issues and are working for a viable NPLV model. The contribution and legacy of all these clubs, large, small and everything in between, should be recognised, respected and preserved. That will not happen under the proposed model.


Yours in football

Nick Tsiaras, Vice President, Box Hill United Soccer Club
Tom Kalas, Club Director, South Melbourne Football Club

Everything is working out just fine

Did the minutes mention that the FFV barred their own representatives from meeting at FFV headquarters as previously planned, and that the meeting had to be held in the foyer instead?

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The Problem

The FFV is a financial mess, with commercial mismanagement of :

• Knox facility
• Darebin facility
• Long & expensive lease at St Kilda Rd
• Way too many staff (60 currently) for our participation numbers (WA & Nth NSW have 15 & 18 full time staff)
• An inexperienced and too highly paid senior management group
• A Board that is split and….. is way out of its capability depth in managing our code
• A constitution that is technically invalid and needs changing
• A zone Rep system that does not work and has disenfranchised clubs from direct representation
• A FFV Board and Management team that has mismanaged the NPLV process and wasted clubs time & money
• A FFV Board & Management team that have squandered club funds for too long



The Solution

• Withhold any more funding of the FFV…. IMMEDIATELY
• Even if the Board was removed, the commercial mess the FFV is in…is not worth saving
• Halt any more Court action….best to spend that money on the NEW Association the 60 have set up
• Implement the NEW NPL Model they have already agreed on…. that complies with FFA criteria and FIFA statutes (more importantly)
• With the 60 of the biggest clubs leaving the FFV……… it will be insolvent within 30 days
• The 60 plus clubs will start from scratch with the new Association…..no more losses,…no commercial baggage from the inept FFV Board & Management
• The burden of keeping afloat the FFV will remain with those clubs that wish to remain there & support them financially
• My bet is no club will want to have their fees increased to fund such a financial mess if they remain with FFV
• This way there is no need for the 60 Co-Sig clubs to fund any redundancies or salaries for the FFV staff if there is a new Board….better to wind it up
• The new Association will be strictly a “Service Provider” for football clubs
• Fixtures, referees, web portal, marketing, tribunals etc
• A new Constitution that has direct club representation
• New Association will have around 15 staff only
• Offices in the suburbs
• Registration fees will therefore be reduced by around 45-55% ……Do the numbers…..it works :)

A win's a win however it is achieved.

Edited by Captain Banal: 2/10/2013 01:24:29 PM

Played, sir.

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to assist the overwhelmed
Jedi....

Injunction hearing today still proceeding, currently adjourned for lunch.

Openly stated in Court today:

That the FFV wants to proceed with a Zonal System for 6 years.

That local clubs will have no relevance and the FFV is prepared to see them dissolve.

The FFV has told the Court it "is prepared to see the dissolution of all traditional clubs" and "is in favor of Zonal Consortia"

aren't we all

Do they have the right/authority to do that? They obviously think they do, and that's a bit concerning? I wonder if they win and are allowed to proceed, will they open the books up to let in a few of the rebels that have a change of heart? Or will all the rebel clubs band together and simply stay put in lower leagues till FFV themselves dissolve?

remember this guys?

And SMFC is an organic that dreams of being a franchise ?

is that Cannabalism ?