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krones3 wrote:IMO this is another instance of football not having manufactured its own money to help avoid this and other situations.We now need a national push to help clubs create an income to pay for the game to advance. You can never generate enough money to overcome the will of asshats. What this affair proves is that sooner or later the tossers will get caught. I'm fairly sure there will be more arrests soon on this matter - I've got an idea of at least one more person who would appear to be involved. Worldwide bans will be applied to the players involved, and hopefully it will be well publicized to make sure other players know what's in store if they try it on.
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krones3
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IMO this is another instance of football not having manufactured its own money to help avoid this and other situations.We now need a national push to help clubs create an income to pay for the game to advance.
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Benjamin
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John Silvester wrote:No one could work out why the second-tier soccer side filled with internationals could play so badly.
Internationals? There's the unfortunate effect of being in AFL country, they can't tell the difference between a player from overseas and an 'international' player.
And no one could work out why the professional footballers had agreed to play for beer money – arriving as they did on visitors' visas to take the field for the Victorian Premier League's newly promoted Southern Stars.
Inaccurate info - Southern Stars played in the VPL last year and survived, they lost a few players to other VPL sides who could pay more and couldn't replace them - which is where the weakness appeared that the fixers took advantage of.
On paper they should have topped the table – instead they were on the bottom with only one win and a goal deficit of 46.
I'd love to know how they figured this one out. On paper Southern Stars are still a very poor side. A handful of English 6th division players and an aging former A-League injury replacement player doesn't make you a table topper.
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Damo Baresi
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Million-dollar pay days as players earn beer moneyDate September 16, 2013 John Silvester Crime reporter, The Age No one could work out why the second-tier soccer side filled with internationals could play so badly. Match fixing is imminent in Australia. It is a growing area of concern for us. This thing is coming down the highway and we have to be prepared. And no one could work out why the professional footballers had agreed to play for beer money – arriving as they did on visitors' visas to take the field for the Victorian Premier League's newly promoted Southern Stars. On paper they should have topped the table – instead they were on the bottom with only one win and a goal deficit of 46. But to sports corruption experts there was no mystery. It was the classic combination of journeymen players, a second-string competition and a growing interest from Asian gambling rings. The man calling the shots had not seen a Southern Stars game or even attended an Australian soccer match. He was half a world away in Hungary – and considered the world's biggest match fixer. Wilson Raj Perumal, a Singaporean national, was arrested in Finland but released to become a prosecution witness in a series of European cases. Perumal is alleged to have bribed as many as 11 Finnish players, fielded a fake side as Togo's national team in a rigged match against Bahrain and bribed players to lose in Thailand, Malaysia and Syria. "He fixed five international friendlies before the World Cup," says International Centre For Sport Security director Chris Eaton. Asian betting records show there had been a flood of money in the dying minutes of games for the Southern Stars to forfeit goals, with the side often losing four-nil after late scores. The big payoff for Perumal was to be the second-last game of the season, Southern Stars against Richmond last Friday. The Asian bookies had calculated the Richmond side as the likely winners by 78 per cent and so Perumal's syndicate was able to invest heavily at six-to-one odds for the draw. Which was the exact result, allegedly netting the syndicate around $2 million. Which is why police from the Purana Taskforce and the sporting integrity intelligence unit moved on Sunday to arrest nine players and the coach from the Southern Stars. The team had only one game left and the suspect players would soon be leaving Australia. "They were in party mode," said one detective. For the past three years police in Victoria have publicly declared that Australian professional sport is in danger of being infiltrated by match fixers. They have expressed concern that international journeymen players with pre-existing corrupt relationships with professional punters have been recruited to play in local sport. In December 2011 leaders from 12 elite sports, including AFL, rugby league and union, soccer, netball, tennis and racing codes, were briefed by senior Victorian Police and Australian Crime Commission officials on the problem. The response varied from alarm to apathy. The following year at an international conference in Paris, Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Graham Ashton was told of the activities of Perumal's syndicate. In confidential meetings, senior sports officials, police, government agencies and anti-corruption experts concluded that match fixing had expanded to such an extent it was now a major organised crime threat. Three sports were identified – soccer, cricket and tennis – all codes where players travel across the world to play in areas often considered notoriously corrupt. A few weeks later Deputy Commissioner Ashton told Fairfax Media, "Match fixing is imminent in Australia. It is a growing area of concern for us. This thing is coming down the highway and we have to be prepared." On Sunday he added, "This should be a wake-up call for all sports in Australia." Police remain frustrated that the federal government is yet to amend laws to allow them to brief sporting bodies on material acquired by phone taps. Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/milliondollar-pay-days-as-players-earn-beer-money-20130915-2tt6d.html#ixzz2f2YPOCxw Edited by Damo Baresi: 16/9/2013 06:13:49 PM
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Obvious Troll
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Syson has a bit to say: Quote:The cancer of match-fixing and gambling has been alleged in 2nd tier Victorian soccer. The Southern Stars are the focus and who knows how far the disease has spread. It's a devastating blow for those of us who follow state league soccer and it's hard to predict how the story will end up. http://neososmos.blogspot.com.au/Warning: if you a fan of Michael Lynch don't read it...
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Captain Banal wrote:What odds can you get on a 7th tackle try ? 2/1 that every redneck and his dog up here won't stop crying about it for a week.
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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Captain Banal
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What odds can you get on a 7th tackle try ?
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Glory Recruit
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All over the news today :lol:
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Captain Banal
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All good fun.
Can't beat a bit of harmless Soap Opera in the game.
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Benjamin
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Not much the government can do to stop overseas bookies from using our events to bet on. The irony is that one of the reasons these guys opt for second tier semi-pro Aussie competitions is that Australia is considered to be legit, whereas no-one in their right mind would bet on lower tier fixtures in Asia.
The due diligence issue is the key. Stars were approached pre-season by a person they didn't know, offering them 5 players on zero wages... They MUST have heard alarm bells right then. Surely the first thing you'd ask is "what's the catch?"
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chris
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The downside of our game being an international game
surely the ffa with the government need to create a filter in regards to all betting activity from overseas agencies
furthermore clubs need to have a due diligence for all players registered in this sport at any level
players need to be brought to justice
I am sure illegal betting has occurred at all levels of our game and it is futile to suggest betting does not exist in every sport and in every category including AFL - NRL and cricket
Australia needs to close the door
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they can go f**k their mothers
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barry
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Hoping FFA sort out this mess quickly and also don't forget to
SACK HOLGER!
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Quote:http://www.footballfedvic.com.au/index.php?id=17&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=1303&cHash=b168092a4591e38a6702fdf2ae8840f8
2013 Transfer Window 16.08.2013 Ins and outs from the transfer window for the 2013 VPL season. All official ins and outs from July 1st will be included in this list.
Southern Stars In Lewis Smith (AFC Hornchurch, England) Abel Fesseha (Moreland Zebras, State League 1) Didier Imbert (Richmond) Cristian Cristea (FC Municipal Targu Mures, Romania) Alon Blumgart (Dandenong Thunder) Tamas Nagy (BFC Siofok KFT, Hungary) Jiri Kabele (Egri Futball Club KFT, Hungary) Ateba Bilayi (Atromitos FC, Greece) Reiss Noel (AFC Hornchurch, England) Joe Woolley (AFC Hornchurch, England) Out Alper Gunaydin (N/A) Joshua Bowen (Springvale White Eagles SC, Men's State League 2 South-East) Jason Ricciuti (Box Hill United Pythagoras SC, Men's State League 1) Devon Bonne (Hume City) Dogan Dagli (Noble Park United, State League 2 South East) Halil Gur (Dandenong City, State League 2 South East) Marvin Hamilton-Omole (Albany Creek, Brisbane Premier League) Ridvan Saglam (Moreland Zebras, State League One) James Walker (Albany Creek, Brisbane Premier League) Kalonzo Kabongo (Berwick City SC, Men's State League 3 South-East) Taskin Suleyman (Cairnlea FC, Men's State League 3 North-West) Edited by Arthur: 16/9/2013 08:54:35 AM
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Bond007
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The wiki squad for the reserves is not this years.
Steve Smith left a year ago.
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Benjamin
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Freddie AppsHero wrote:What happens to the club? You'd expect at least auto-relegation. They're already relegated. At the moment it appears to be a case of a group of players and coaches conspiring to fix games - if so, hard to hold the club accountable, however, if it turns out that senior figures at the club were aware of what was happening (or even profiting from it), then I'd fully expect to see them kicked out of the league altogether.
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Joffa wrote:Southern Stars Football Club Senior Squad Coach: Zaya Younan Assistant: Stephen Weah No. Position Player 1 GK Kerim Koc 2 DF Andrew Viola 3 DF Halil Gur 4 DF Joshua Bowen 5 DF Ramazan Tavsancioglu (c) 6 DF Joshua Wood 7 FW Devon Bonne 8 MF Kalonzo Kabongo 9 MF Ryan Hervel 10 FW Ridvan Saglam 11 MF Tom Lino 12 FW Marvin Hamilton 13 DF Sait Guler No. Position Player 14 FW James Walker 15 MF Nick McKoy 16 MF Ali Turgut 17 MF Ali Hameed 18 MF Dogan Dagli 19 DF Vincent Bontemps 20 DF Luke Burgess 21 FW Deang Aguek 22 FW Jason Riccutti 23 MF Ilya Grim 24 DF David Obaze 25 FW Geoffrey Srahah 27 GK Nicholaus Woolward Reserve squad Coach: Steven Smith Assistant: Stef Rudzki No. Position Player 1 GK Serkan Dogan 2 DF Özgü Uzun 3 DF Mustafa Yucel (C) 4 DF Husamettin Ulusan 5 DF Gokturk Altiparmak 6 MF Mathew Georgopoulos 7 MF Anthony Gaetano (VC) No. Position Player 8 MF Josh Calle 10 FW Alp Akdogan 11 MF Kemal Gazibaba 14 MF Burak Dilbaz 15 MF George Malliaras 21 MF Ersin Kilic GK Toby Lawson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Stars_FC#Senior_Squad Edited by Joffa: 15/9/2013 04:43:26 PM Are the flags next to those players on wikipedia accurate?
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Was surprised nobody was lashing for SMFC straight away :lol: -PB
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Benjamin wrote:Agree with both of the above... However, before banning them and kicking them out of the country - I'd like them to be left alone in a room with the supporters of their club for an hour or two. Thats more appropriate at this stage, and then put them to jail.
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kiwi keith
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As if "Macktheknife" is concerned about Victorians image.
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Joffa
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Petete wrote:What about the 7 tackles try against the Cowboys? Now is not the time for deflection, the NRL can worry about their own problems, this is ours and it's huge...we have to own it.
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Thats the issue with our game compared to the AFL... The world actually cares about ours :lol:
If the VPL can gain overseas betting interest, you know that theres too much gambling going on.
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Petete
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What about the 7 tackles try against the Cowboys?
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thupercoach
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Not sure I want them out of the country until they've served jail sentences.
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Jestr
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Ordinary career which was mediocre at best, with little prospects of reaching any heights. Little chance of anything paying huge salary after football. Here is an offer. Someone comes in and offers thousands of dollars to alter some games by playing poorly and allowing few extra goals...... It looks like easy money. It's been happening for years. You will never stop it as long as people can bet I on sport.
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That's why we pay taxes to fund police & other authorities .... to catch match fixers in sports, (whether its soccer or cricket, or to catch AFL sides that tank or as Dimetriou was quoted this week about his warnings to authorities to allow them access to taped conversations by police on match fixing)
we pay taxes.....to catch drug cheats in all football codes (eg AFL/Essendon, Aleague, NRL & Football), athletics, swimming etc etc.....
... we should applaud the authorities in doing their job. Now I hope jail is an option
Make an example of them
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Wrong thread. :-"
Edited by macktheknife: 15/9/2013 06:03:05 PM
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macktheknife
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Freddie AppsHero wrote:What happens to the club? You'd expect at least auto-relegation. Already last aren't they?
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Never heard of them? AFL media will play this up to be bigger than Essendon drug scandal.
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