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Heckler and UTMP bring up valid points. However reality says that the FFA instructed the FFV on how to form the NPLV for 2014. Remember the FFV wanted to postpone it in 2014 and maintain the status quo. Things below the surface are always playing out. FFV relatively impotent in this NPLV structure and FFA needed Vic on board for the FFA Cup which is announced tomorrow probably with a major sponsor.

As I see it there are NPLV clubs who will do a good job of it across the board. They have the facilities, the programs, the resources, the coaches, solid admin and an abundance of trialists for each section of their clubs - SAP, pre- juniors, juniors, youth and seniors. These clubs have already hit the ground running well and truly before Christmas. Then there are those clubs that are in transition from community club to NPLV club and are playing 'catch up' to meet the requirement of their licencing agreements and making it up as it goes along. They have bought time during the 2014 season to get their shit together and hope all issues and requirements are up to speed by the end of October in readiness for 2015. Some will excel at it, others will struggle or have limited resources to continue. Then you have the 'strugglers' who have poor facilities, poor arrangements with their councils or are not up to the standards required across all areas at NPLV level.

It's time for our FFV to pull their fingers out of their clackers and work with all licence holders to guide them to comply with all facets of their agreements. It's not about just handing over the 40k and if you fall over the next club on the list gets a gig. For it to be successful a benchmark needs to be set across all areas of the agreement for clubs to emulate or learn from each other.

A NPLV Management group needs to be set up for the football side (all club TD's involved) and another one for admin and off the park issues ( facilities/admin/community programs/marketing) so clubs can work together collectively to improve the standard of the NPLV and give all our players, coaches, clubs and stakeholders a product that they can be proud of.

We need to start somewhere. Interesting year ahead no doubt. Enjoy your season everybody. More importantly, continue to love the game!! :)

How can you enjoy the season if thereis double standards? There is a criteria is there for a reason. 70% of clubs don't meet it. Facilities are a shambles most don't have the juniors etc... There is only 5 clubs that meet the criteria.Heidelberg for example did not pay their players after round 8. What stability is that? As I mentioned before there are club that play on open paddocks and have cricket pitches in the middle of the ground it is open park land and yet they are NPL.

It's a joke.

FFV is a joke and I will never watch local football again. This is why crowds will be lucky with 50people watching.

Sorry Heckler. If you thought that the FFV was going to run the NPLV strictly according to the new criteria (including facilities) and to the licencing agreement then you are kidding yourself. That died in the courts with an injunction in September. What we have now is a version of the NPLV that will suit the FFA and their finals series plus the roll out of the FFA Cup. It also suits the FFV as they will have 28 x 40k deposited into their account as well as merchandising rights and IP rights for all of the clubs. It also suits traditional clubs who need to keep fighting to keep their clubs alive and try to prolong/ protect their futures. Some are well prepared and others are poorly resourced like the example you mentioned.

As I keep saying, it is what it is and by 2015 the goalposts will change again and clubs will either flourish, stagnate or in some cases fall by the wayside. Surfcoast FC for example didn't even kick a ball in the NPLV. Now they have no licence and are battling to keep their community club from going into freefall.

NPLV a joke? maybe...It was not going to be much more than that in 2014. We just need to get the season started and hope that the damage is limited. FFV Board elections due in 2015. Need a new one with plenty of constitutional reform included. Here's hoping....

Reckon Green Gully has be the cheapest rates of any NPL clubs. Only $450 for kids from Under 12 to under 18. What are other clubs charging?

according to a few mates whittlesea ranges wanted around 2k or something for the u/18s npl squad

Box Hill $1900, Bulleen $2200, Oakleigh $2200, Dandenong City $1500 approx, Kingston $850, Bentleigh Greens $2200

Some have the advantage of their own grounds and pokies, I think Green Gully has pokies so if any club has pokies and a cheap fee its at the expense of misery in the area due to gambling, shouldn't be allowed.

Yeah ban the pokies

Werribee is charging $1700. The whole model makes a mockery of the FFV. This league is only for high income families. Show me the money!!!

Pokies = no worries, Coopers shirt sponsorship for Adelaide = ZOMG Think of the Children (and our short term cash injection) #FFALogic

and they've got the pokies there too :-&

The NPLV club I am dealing with is charging around $1500 but also offers disadvantaged kids a discount/scholarship option.

People need to understand that the payments are justified to make this work. We don't have the luxury of a lucrative television rights deal like the AFL in the billions of dollars, where they can filter the money down to Juniors, so parents only pay $100 token fees.

Our TV rights deal is tiny, Wayne Rooneys overall contract is about the same as the FFA TV rights deal. How can we compete.

We have to survive the next few years, increase the exposure of a successful NPL comp and then the $$$ will roll in with a revamped TV rights deal.

Here's hoping.

Football revolution has begun

How can the $$$ role with clubs like Avendale Heights ground with a cricket pitch in the middle and it is open park space so is Brunswick City, it is embarrassing to get a film Crüe there in fact you will never attract tv rights.

The NPL clubs have shut the door on talented juniors,scholarships can be 1-2 kids and watch the uproar when the paying parents find out.

What a joke.

so true also olympic village isn't really attractive these days haven't been to churchill reserve in years but from memory wasn't anything special

Heidlebergs ground is shocking, looks like post war Ukraine for farks sake, ground is rubbish and stands are old and faded with bird shit everywhere. Its obvious the FFV just want the $$$ and are will to overlook their own guidelines, some teams don't even have all the juniors yet!!!

Olympic Village and Churchilll Reserve are at least fenced off on camera Olympic Village will be ok thus the stadium is still better than 80% of the grounds at least it has terraces and covering. You go to Richmond, Pascoe Vale etc it's like going to watch a pub team play kick about football.

The criteria, what happened to the criteria. It seems to me the FFV can get 28 teams @ $40,000 or $50,000 (whatever it is) better than having just 14 clubs, we'll make more money and that's what they did. Don't worry about the criteria.

Yes 28k x 40k is 1.92k in the FFV coffers, no other state is getting this sort of money. The FFV made a shambles of the first model and now this second model is even worst. On top of this clubs are are urgently registering new community clubs to keep their b grade teams for more money.

FFV needs to be audited by a royal commission.

Yes 28k x 40k is 1.92k in the FFV coffers, no other state is getting this sort of money. The FFV made a shambles of the first model and now this second model is even worst. On top of this clubs are are urgently registering new community clubs to keep their b grade teams for more money.

FFV needs to be audited by a royal commission.

Just heard melb knights, green gully, Richmond are not registering community teams, whilst Sunshine George Cross have registered a community team in order to make extra money on the b team junior teams and parents were told if selected for the community teams it does not secure game time for kids. If I were the parents I would look elsewhere.

The platter clubs that were handed NPL status are struggling to make junior teams. What a joke!!!

Just heard melb knights, green gully, Richmond are not registering community teams, whilst Sunshine George Cross have registered a community team in order to make extra money on the b team junior teams and parents were told if selected for the community teams it does not secure game time for kids. If I were the parents I would look elsewhere.

The platter clubs that were handed NPL status are struggling to make junior teams. What a joke!!!

Will be interesting to see how Sunshine George Cross will cope running so many teams.

Thats strange, why would their local council assist if they dont have a community club?

Cost are too high for juniors, hopefully lack of quality players in the next couple of years will require a revisit on pricing, although I doubt it?

At the risk of annoying my friends at various NPL clubs - every team should have been required to provide at least half a dozen scholarship places in each age group - 100% funded from the fees of the other players at the club.

Had this been in place, those who are getting in because they have money and ability rather than just high ability, would have been serving the game as well as themselves and the club.

Ive said that all along, $120 from each kid will allow a talented kid to have a shot whose financial means may exclude them normally. The FFV should use part of the 40k to actually assist with this as well!

I like the concept, but I guess it all comes down to what those at the clubs consider "fair".

It certainly would add some significant talent to the pool though I would expect.

guys in terms of the NPLV or NPLV1 for the FFA cup..what teams grounds would actually work for television and have seating...other than south and melb knights?

not many to be honest i reckon they will move the cup games to other stadiums which are suitable for TV matches there is only 10 matches scheduled for television so Victoria might only even get 1 or 2 games on TV considering the amount of teams from NSW.

Depending where the camera is positioned the suitable grounds are:
Knights
BJS
Heidelberg
Bulleen
North cote

Depending where the camera is positioned the suitable grounds are:
Knights
BJS
Heidelberg
Bulleen
North cote

Richmond has televised games too.