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melbourne_terrace wrote:What on earth happens to NSW qualification now that Wellington have taken one of their spots? It's not like they can just take all the quarter finalists from the Waratah Cup anymore. This is why New Zealand should stay home.
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From Football NSW Facebook page: Quote:The Waratah Cup will continue to be coordinated along the same principles as it has done in previous seasons.
The Quarter Final cup stage (8 teams) will act as the qualification fixtures for the FFA Cup; the winners of the respective matches (4 teams) will gain eligibility for entry to the FFA Cup. The losers of the respective fixtures (4 teams) will play off in a fixture for two spots into the FFA Cup. The losers of the two playoff matches (2 teams) will play off in a further playoff match for the final position that is available for the FFA Cup. The playoff teams will be seeded prior to the Waratah Cup commencing through the pre cup draw procedure. So basically the four semi finalists will qualify, and the four losing teams from the quarter finals will play off against each other for the other 3 spots. Edited by aussieshorter: 24/2/2014 04:33:14 PM
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melbourne_terrace wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:ohnonotreinaldo wrote:4wanderer4 wrote:ohnonotreinaldo wrote:
[size=7]QUEENSLAND: [/size] 4 teams will qualify, 2 from the Canale Cup, 2 from FQ Cup (1 from NQ, 1 from Outer SEQ) [size=4]Canale Cup Round 1: Complete, Round 2 begins March 4th[/size] [size=4]FQ Cup Round 1: Complete, Round 2 begins TBC[/size]
In the interests of nostalgia, does this mean then it will be fairly simples for Fury to qualify? They only have to beat FNQ as main rivals? PB? Fury must beat a local team from Townsville, then two further matches against regional sides that could include NPL teams FNQ Heat (Cairns) and CQ Energy (Rockhampton). Should easily beat CQ and the local team, but FNQ are pretty good. Lost to them last season. Wish we still had Edds etc right now, never know though, maybe Fergie is good at this level, we shall find out! -PB Fury get it fucking easy compared to the rest of the state, let alone the other State League clubs. That said, I'm hardly complaining when I'm pretty much a fan seeing how i go to their games when they play in SEQ. \:d/ Will have to catch you next time I'm in Brissy to see em play. -PB
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Out of interest, here is the path that Tuggeranong United took to win the Federation Cup and qualify for the FFA Cup. (P) is penalty score, and all dates are obviously in 2013.
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And by my count, this is where the qualifying is currently at (give or take a few results in Queensland that I haven't been able to find results for): Edited by aussieshorter: 24/2/2014 05:35:46 PM
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TheSelectFew
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aussieshorter wrote:Out of interest, here is the path that Tuggeranong United took to win the Federation Cup and qualify for the FFA Cup. (P) is penalty score, and all dates are obviously in 2013.  Please please put that up on Wikipedia.
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The whole ACT section got wiped out ffs. Shit edit!!
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TheSelectFew wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:What on earth happens to NSW qualification now that Wellington have taken one of their spots? It's not like they can just take all the quarter finalists from the Waratah Cup anymore. This is why New Zealand should stay home. Maintain the rage.
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aussieshorter wrote:From Football NSW Facebook page: Quote:The Waratah Cup will continue to be coordinated along the same principles as it has done in previous seasons.
The Quarter Final cup stage (8 teams) will act as the qualification fixtures for the FFA Cup; the winners of the respective matches (4 teams) will gain eligibility for entry to the FFA Cup. The losers of the respective fixtures (4 teams) will play off in a fixture for two spots into the FFA Cup. The losers of the two playoff matches (2 teams) will play off in a further playoff match for the final position that is available for the FFA Cup. The playoff teams will be seeded prior to the Waratah Cup commencing through the pre cup draw procedure. So basically the four semi finalists will qualify, and the four losing teams from the quarter finals will play off against each other for the other 3 spots. Edited by aussieshorter: 24/2/2014 04:33:14 PM Interesting that you can win your way out of playing another game in a cup competition.
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The FFA Cup provides a strong case to kick Wellington out of the comp.
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WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing! not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce.
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Hadn't seen this posted anywhere, although it may be of interest to some that NNSW film their draws and post them on YouTube. These fixtures announced are for Round 2 in the Northern Pool (March 15/16).
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19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. It could become a promotion relegation tournament and provides a nationalised second tier. I would be happy for now.
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T-UNIT wrote:The FFA Cup provides a strong case to kick Wellington out of the comp. And have a completely australian comp. it will make for an exciting tournament.
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WaMackie wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:What on earth happens to NSW qualification now that Wellington have taken one of their spots? It's not like they can just take all the quarter finalists from the Waratah Cup anymore. This is why New Zealand should stay home. Maintain the rage. Don't worry the movement is gaining momentum.
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TheSelectFew wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. It could become a promotion relegation tournament and provides a nationalised second tier. I would be happy for now. Because it's nice to know who is the best of the 2nd Div, like TSF had said, nationalises it. This is the first FFA Cup season, I'd imagine ALOT will be tweaked for future seasons once the dust has settled. -PB
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TheSelectFew wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. It could become a promotion relegation tournament and provides a nationalised second tier. I would be happy for now. would you be happy if they promised your club an automatic spot in the FFA CUP but then change there mind? FFA - forever making up the rules as they go.
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19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. I thought a trophy for winning a seperate tournament is something. All expense paid trip to Hobart, being crowned the first evey npl champs is nothing? I've also never read anything official confirming a spot, although I'm happy to be corrected. I dare say Rudes may have been told something off the record by one of his fox mates, that's snowballed into fact, and now a few people at utd who trumpeted that they'd get a spot have been left with egg on their face.
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19-SU-58 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. It could become a promotion relegation tournament and provides a nationalised second tier. I would be happy for now. would you be happy if they promised your club an automatic spot in the FFA CUP but then change there mind? FFA - forever making up the rules as they go. I don't recall this promise ever being made and it sounds stupid that a second tier domestic will guarantee a spot in the final stages of the cup comp.
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Big Wally wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. I thought a trophy for winning a seperate tournament is something. All expense paid trip to Hobart, being crowned the first evey npl champs is nothing? I've also never read anything official confirming a spot, although I'm happy to be corrected. I dare say Rudes may have been told something off the record by one of his fox mates, that's snowballed into fact, and now a few people at utd who trumpeted that they'd get a spot have been left with egg on their face. this is coming directly from our board. We will just do it the hard way, if we cant beat teams lower than us, clearly we dont deserve to be there. Anyways it will be interesting to see, if the NPL 2014 champion gets direct entry for season 2 of the FFA Cup.
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TheSelectFew wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. It could become a promotion relegation tournament and provides a nationalised second tier. I would be happy for now. would you be happy if they promised your club an automatic spot in the FFA CUP but then change there mind? FFA - forever making up the rules as they go. I don't recall this promise ever being made and it sounds stupid that a second tier domestic will guarantee a spot in the final stages of the cup comp. Winning the NPL championship last season clearly puts us as the best State league side in this country, that should be enough for automatic qualification :cool:
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Big Wally wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. I thought a trophy for winning a seperate tournament is something. All expense paid trip to Hobart, being crowned the first evey npl champs is nothing? I've also never read anything official confirming a spot, although I'm happy to be corrected. I dare say Rudes may have been told something off the record by one of his fox mates, that's snowballed into fact, and now a few people at utd who trumpeted that they'd get a spot have been left with egg on their face. This. I've never heard anything about the 'automatic qualification spot for the winners of the NPL'.
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19-SU-58 wrote:Big Wally wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. I thought a trophy for winning a seperate tournament is something. All expense paid trip to Hobart, being crowned the first evey npl champs is nothing? I've also never read anything official confirming a spot, although I'm happy to be corrected. I dare say Rudes may have been told something off the record by one of his fox mates, that's snowballed into fact, and now a few people at utd who trumpeted that they'd get a spot have been left with egg on their face. this is coming directly from our board. We will just do it the hard way, if we cant beat teams lower than us, clearly we dont deserve to be there. Anyways it will be interesting to see, if the NPL 2014 champion gets direct entry for season 2 of the FFA Cup. "Directly from the board" No it wasn't. Automatic FFA Cup qualification was never part of the NPL Championship. I dont see why that would have changed after the fact or why they'd change it for future editions of the Cup. Someone may have flagged the possibility of it with the club at some point but I doubt that a promise was ever made. If somebody at the club has taken a couple of comments/discussions as a 'promise' then they're idiots. I'm no fan of the FFA, but let's not make claims we cant be sure of
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SydneyCroatia wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:Big Wally wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. I thought a trophy for winning a seperate tournament is something. All expense paid trip to Hobart, being crowned the first evey npl champs is nothing? I've also never read anything official confirming a spot, although I'm happy to be corrected. I dare say Rudes may have been told something off the record by one of his fox mates, that's snowballed into fact, and now a few people at utd who trumpeted that they'd get a spot have been left with egg on their face. this is coming directly from our board. We will just do it the hard way, if we cant beat teams lower than us, clearly we dont deserve to be there. Anyways it will be interesting to see, if the NPL 2014 champion gets direct entry for season 2 of the FFA Cup. "Directly from the board" No it wasn't. Automatic FFA Cup qualification was never part of the NPL Championship. I dont see why that would have changed after the fact or why they'd change it for future editions of the Cup. Someone may have flagged the possibility of it with the club at some point but I doubt that a promise was ever made. If somebody at the club has taken a couple of comments/discussions as a 'promise' then they're idiots. I'm no fan of the FFA, but let's not make claims we cant be sure of heard it from more than one person, 'on the board' i guess they are ALL idiots. nevermind, we will do it the hard way.
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19-SU-58 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. It could become a promotion relegation tournament and provides a nationalised second tier. I would be happy for now. would you be happy if they promised your club an automatic spot in the FFA CUP but then change there mind? FFA - forever making up the rules as they go. I don't recall this promise ever being made and it sounds stupid that a second tier domestic will guarantee a spot in the final stages of the cup comp. Winning the NPL championship last season clearly puts us as the best State league side in this country, that should be enough for automatic qualification :cool: You should be then getting a league spot, not cup ;)
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19-SU-58 wrote:SydneyCroatia wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:Big Wally wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. I thought a trophy for winning a seperate tournament is something. All expense paid trip to Hobart, being crowned the first evey npl champs is nothing? I've also never read anything official confirming a spot, although I'm happy to be corrected. I dare say Rudes may have been told something off the record by one of his fox mates, that's snowballed into fact, and now a few people at utd who trumpeted that they'd get a spot have been left with egg on their face. this is coming directly from our board. We will just do it the hard way, if we cant beat teams lower than us, clearly we dont deserve to be there. Anyways it will be interesting to see, if the NPL 2014 champion gets direct entry for season 2 of the FFA Cup. "Directly from the board" No it wasn't. Automatic FFA Cup qualification was never part of the NPL Championship. I dont see why that would have changed after the fact or why they'd change it for future editions of the Cup. Someone may have flagged the possibility of it with the club at some point but I doubt that a promise was ever made. If somebody at the club has taken a couple of comments/discussions as a 'promise' then they're idiots. I'm no fan of the FFA, but let's not make claims we cant be sure of heard it from more than one person, 'on the board' i guess they are ALL idiots. nevermind, we will do it the hard way. You've only ever quoted one person to me... and he's not on the board :lol: But yes, if the club was convinced by someone then they are idiots. If promises were made, then I'm sure the club would be kicking up a stink about the whole thing. The fact that there hasn't been a peep from the club tells me that those in the know were never under the impression that we were handed an automatic spot
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Prizemoney will be awarded to all teams beyond the round of 16 with figures to be decided
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SydneyCroatia wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:SydneyCroatia wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:Big Wally wrote:19-SU-58 wrote:WTF was the point of the NPL championship then? that it counts for nothing!
not even an automatic qualification like promised. what a farce. I thought a trophy for winning a seperate tournament is something. All expense paid trip to Hobart, being crowned the first evey npl champs is nothing? I've also never read anything official confirming a spot, although I'm happy to be corrected. I dare say Rudes may have been told something off the record by one of his fox mates, that's snowballed into fact, and now a few people at utd who trumpeted that they'd get a spot have been left with egg on their face. this is coming directly from our board. We will just do it the hard way, if we cant beat teams lower than us, clearly we dont deserve to be there. Anyways it will be interesting to see, if the NPL 2014 champion gets direct entry for season 2 of the FFA Cup. "Directly from the board" No it wasn't. Automatic FFA Cup qualification was never part of the NPL Championship. I dont see why that would have changed after the fact or why they'd change it for future editions of the Cup. Someone may have flagged the possibility of it with the club at some point but I doubt that a promise was ever made. If somebody at the club has taken a couple of comments/discussions as a 'promise' then they're idiots. I'm no fan of the FFA, but let's not make claims we cant be sure of heard it from more than one person, 'on the board' i guess they are ALL idiots. nevermind, we will do it the hard way. You've only ever quoted one person to me... and he's not on the board :lol: But yes, if the club was convinced by someone then they are idiots. If promises were made, then I'm sure the club would be kicking up a stink about the whole thing. The fact that there hasn't been a peep from the club tells me that those in the know were never under the impression that we were handed an automatic spot cause i tell you every conversation i've had? like i said, we will do it the hard way, and let's leave it at that.
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At least one minor side is guaranteed to reach the semi-finals, with 10 games to be broadcast on Fox Sports and a modest prizemoney pool of $120,000 including $40,000 for the winning team.
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Roberts wrote:At least one minor side is guaranteed to reach the semi-finals, with 10 games to be broadcast on Fox Sports and a modest prizemoney pool of $120,000 including $40,000 for the winning team. one thing that wasnt talked about, will clubs get prize money for each round they reach or? surely the winner of the FFA Cup will not just get $40,000? :?
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