Anddddddd no one will care....

Aaaaand thread degeneration complete.

7 to go EG. Congratulations buddy. ;)

"One of the most hated organisations of the 21st century"? Up there with Al Qaida, eh?

He'd be proud of the importance you've assigned him.

The man is dying, leave him be.

So you ignore his abhorrent actions and selfish ideology because he's religious?

Lets face it, if he wasn't a Christian people would be a lot more upset.

i doubt that

why dont you turn your attention to the various Islamic governments around the world and examine their position on homosexuality...

America being a Christian nation makes his actions less horrific because he's standing up for 'Christian Morals.' I have no respect for any religious condemnation of homosexuality. It's all pathetic. But this thread is about WBC not Islam.

Freedom of speech has its price and that is common decency.

real Christians preach tolerance and forgiveness
we live in Australia by the way...the majority of this forum's membership anyway, as this is an Australian forum, therefore that this person lived in America is completely immaterial to the discussion

you're giving Islam a free pass whilst condemning Christianity based on the views of one man who it could be successfully argued was not demonstrative of Christian values

you dont see the hypocrisy of your position?

This thread is about an American based organisation and an American :lol:

:lol: Here we go! 'Real' Christians? You can't cherry pick the good ones. Islam does not get a free pass. All condemnation of homosexuality on religious grounds is pathetic. I've said this twice now, learn to read.

What hypocrisy? My position is that condemning homosexuality on religious grounds is unconditionally pathetic whether it's Islam, Christianity or Judaism or whatever. I'm also saying that while WBC does not commit crimes under the freedom of speech laws, their actions are indecent. What the f*ck is wrong with your eyes?

your position is that 'people' would be more upset about this man exercising his right to free speech if he wasnt Christian
well you're being quite open in your hatred of Christianity on this forum yet you conveniently ignore the actions of Islam against those of homosexual persuasion.

that is proof enough that your original statement is a complete fallacy

I stand by that. America is a Christian nation and therefore I anticipate that they have a lot more tolerance towards fellow adherents of their religion. If it was Islamic adherents doing the picketing there would be far more public hatred towards the actions.

The funeral picketing wouldn't fly in Australia.

Edit: I don't hate Christianity. I hate the actions of some Christians. WBC are people I hate because of their arrogance and their lack of compassion for grieving families. They believe their religious beliefs supersede the grief of loss. How is that anything but disgusting?

Edited by benelsmore: 18/3/2014 10:57:41 AM

you might want to acquaint yourself with the views of Amercian muslims on the subject

But we're not talking about minority views. The general public view (being that the general public are majority Christian) is less severe given that WBC claim to be Christians.

Edited by imnofreak: 18/3/2014 11:40:04 AM

Read the Crimes Against Humanity thread. We hate without discrimination or favour.

a) Not a christian nation. The founding fathers were quite clear on that. The pledge of allegiance was changed in the mid 70's to 'one nation under god'.
b) They do not tolerate the funeral picketing. Research the Patriot Guard


It is not our constitutional right to do so as it is in USA

so you're a hate group
sounds constructive

Yes. The bearded ones, secular fascists, homophobes, and misogynists are all worthy of my hate.

a) legally not but realistically there is a huge Christian influence on EVERYTHING! You can't separate peoples opinions and their religious beliefs.

b) it still happens Patriot Guard or not.

a) You're absolutely right. Re. the 1st amendment, and Treaty of Tripoli
b) It's tolerated in the sense that it is legal.

sounds like a lifetime well spent

Ah ok, point clarified. Then, yes I agree with you. Well I have great admiration for their freedoms on one hand, but on the other hand it does allow very stupid people to voice their opinions. You really can't win either way.

:lol: exactly right.

The prospect of seeing my enemies brought low is one of the greatest joys this life has to offer.

It will be a great day when he dies

I will be singing and dancing to celebrate my dislike of him

Funnily enough, he softened in his old age. Despite his personal beliefs he actually fought for the rights of African Americans and homosexuals when he was still a practicing lawyer

Jelly & Ice Cream, huh?

Exactly. And the US media fed the troll like no other in human history.

I guess society likes to give bigots like Phelps a voice as they serve to make us feel better about ourselves.

end of the day thats what its all about.

people want to feel better about themselves by putting someone else down or pretending to care about an issue they probably really dont as much as they want to demonstrate superiority.

sad facet of human nature

Of course there would be a far greater showing of public outrage if the picketing was committed by Islamic protestors but there is a very obvious reason for that and it has nothing to do with Christian favouritism :lol:

I disagree that WBC actions are tolerated because they are Christian, their actions are tolerated by constitutional freedom not the general public. I've never encountered anything but hate where public perception of the WBC is concerned, and really can't agree that they are given a more lenient judgement because they follow a form of Christianity, they're judged on the appalling nature of what they do not what they follow imo.

Actually the changes were made to the pledge of allegiance by Dwight Eisenhower. During the spread of communism and subsequent fear of secularism Eisenhower added "under god" to the pledge of allegiance in 1954 and "in god we trust" to the US currency in 1957.