Super club :')

I think MV's ticker is a bit wrong. :-s

Edited by TheSelectFew: 3/10/2014 05:40:15 PM

Wanderers 16,530 at close of play today.

For this reason I thought it was a good idea to play the odd 'home' game at North Sydney Oval. Anecdotally most former Northern Spirit fans became CCM fans when the new comp stood up in 2005. For a brief period in 1999/2000, NSO was 'the' place to be in Sydney on a Friday night.

Edited by vanbasten88: 3/10/2014 07:35:40 PM

Look at what u wrote mate. Try the bold part..

But vanbasten, it can be argued that NS has already been tried, and it failed, last season or so - the move made with much controversy and the pain only worth it in terms of learning the practical realities (6.7k crowd, drastic drop on Mariners avg)? Granted, one fixture may not accurately represent the potential, but NS Oval is pretty much within SFC's catchment and the NS area is much closer to SFS than it is to Bluetongue.

But anyway, it must be made clear that the Central Coast and Bluetongue ARE home and that most of their fixtures are well locked in there. IF the obligatory game MUST be hosted/tried in Northern Metro Sydney, then 'lock that in' too, as a tradition, build up that 'secondary base' and then it's a win-win, as CCoasters, the members, have their fixtures lined up, season-to-season and the Northern Suburbs crowd their particular fixture. And if some in the Northern Suburbs lot enjoy the experience enough then they might become new converts and travel the extra mile up to Bluetongue now and again?

What we want to avoid is Charlesworth getting too crazy with radical ideas and turning Mariners into NS team or a veritable travelling roadshow ala Phoenix. The Central Coast and Bluetongue is their home, they are steadily building on a very solid base there. Growing into their growing market. It's certainly not worth risking that for what's already proven to not quite deliver on the hype, due to some very practical factors, outlined here and by many Mariners fans and many Northern Sydneysiders as too those in the more northern, Northern Suburbs - where that region IS a bit closer to Bluetongue and can be considered within their greater catchment.

Edited by GloryPerth: 4/10/2014 03:26:50 AM

The membership thread has seen a slight tangent, sorry for that.



Indeed, the Mariners can rightly say they're participating in a NATIONAL league which airs to and is partaken by, a national audience. They also and often have, participated in the ACL, which means INTERNATIONAL exposure for the Mariners brand, players adorning those kits, especially to the markets travelled/participants faced, like CHINA, SOUTH KOREA and JAPAN.

This is why we wonder about how much they and a few of the A-League clubs, are exploiting this? Seems an under-exploited area and may partially have to do with FFA restrictions possibly, in the past? They've freed up more room for club sponsorship arrangements, separate from national league etc... The Indonesian-Magnate Bakries owning Roar etc... have been a positive benefit.

We saw some insight into this, when the Mariners were participating in the ACL, recent times. I know this deal was only short-term, for those games, but this shows what we mean:

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news-display/Water-giant-backs-Mariners-Asian-ambitions/67210

One can only imagine, if the Mariners went on an ACL run as successful as AU or the Wanderers now - the Asian audience exposure, the market potential, the national attention here... The sponsors would be clamouring like no time in their history. I'm sure Wanderers are benefiting from this, as we speak? :-k

Edited by GloryPerth: 4/10/2014 02:12:58 AM

Utilising Davo's template:

Adelaide United: 6,374
Brisbane Roar: 10,713
Central Coast Mariners: 4,313
Melbourne City: 8,570
Melbourne Victory: 20,277
Newcastle Jets: 7,663
Perth Glory : 4,506
Sydney FC: 10,222
Wellington Phoenix: 3,105
Western Sydney Wanderers: 16,530

Total = 92,273


Total as of 11/10/2013 = 86,352
Total as of 1/4/2014 = 94,520

http://www.sydneyfc.com/
http://membership.melbournecityfc.com.au/
http://wanderers.memberhq.com.au/
http://www.membership.newcastlejets.com.au/
http://www.melbournevictory.com.au/
http://www.a-league.com.au/

Current Membership levels/Last Season's Crowd average, per club:

Adelaide United: 6,374 / 11,225 = 57%
Brisbane Roar: 10,713 / 14,957 = 72%
Central Coast Mariners: 4,313 / 9,398 = 46%
Melbourne City: 8,570 / 9,799 = 89.5%
Melbourne Victory: 20,277 / 21,808 = 93%
Newcastle Jets: 7,663 / 11,949 = 64%
Perth Glory : 4,506 / 9,418 = 48%
Sydney FC: 10,222 / 18,682 = 55%
Wellington Phoenix: 3,105 / 8,202 = 38%
Western Sydney Wanderers: 16,530 / 14,860 = 111%

=An A-League average of 9,227 memberships, per club.
2013/14 A-League Average Attendance: 13,027
Average percentage (Current Member levels to 13/14 Crowd average): 67.35%

Current Membership levels/Last Season's Minimum Crowd, per club:

Adelaide United: 6,374 / 6,980 = 91.3%
Brisbane Roar: 10,713 / 10,101 = 106%
Central Coast Mariners: 4,313 / 5,787 = 74.5%
Melbourne City: 8,570 / 5,046 = 169.8%
Melbourne Victory: 20,277 / 14,774 = 137.2%
Newcastle Jets: 7,663 / 7,692 = 99.6%
Perth Glory : 4,506 / 5,837 = 77.2%
Sydney FC: 10,222 / 10,148 = 100.7%
Wellington Phoenix: 3,105 / 5,336 = 58.2%
Western Sydney Wanderers: 16,530 / 11,892 = 139%

= An A-League average of 9,227 memberships, per club.
2013/14 A-League minimum attendance average of: 8,359
Average percentage (Current Member levels to 13/14 Crowd minimums): 105.35%

*Colours de-note those well above and below the average amongst clubs, also reflect my opinion, in regards to clubs doing well and those still 'under-achieving', to a degree.

Notes: Mariners Membership total was 5.9k last season and they could still be on-track to get close to that mark. That would take them in-line with the league, around 55-60% of average, 100% with min. Glory could/should still hit 5k members, at the least (Around 55% and much closer to 100% of crowd minimum). Phoenix's membership target is 4k members - which is still small, but closer to in-line with others in the league around 50%.

City's growth just reflects how far their barometer has shifted and hopefully their new era leaves minimum crowds like that listed above, behind them. Roar's growth is finally starting to fill in/catch up, to their other upward trending crowd barometers and that's very pleasing to see. SFC's stellar membership growth past two seasons is put somewhat in-context, with their stellar avg attendance growth. This may also re-inforce, pleasingly for SFC, that the club still has alot of room for growth, in-terms of growing that member-base even further. Perhaps the Jets' base is starting to settle and find it's true/real base?

And if I understand correctly, Wanderers numbers may seem a little deceptive (Still excellent), as their recent numbers include Ticket Buy-Back schemes or the like? Could be wrong on that though.

Source for numbers:
http://www.ultimatealeague.com/records.php?type=att&season=2013-14&finals=exclude

Edited by GloryPerth: 4/10/2014 03:32:02 AM

You missed it completely.

EDIT

Edited by TheSelectFew: 4/10/2014 09:02:38 AM

=d> Nice work GloryPerth, All the stats are great too see.

TheSelectFew, Victorys lowest attendance was just about our average attendance last Season :oops: ;).

That's still a pretty decent figure. Hope it can become your lowest as well.

Same, Hopefully in time. Victory setting the standards Membership wise, and probably on the field this season. Better keep an eye on WSW though, when they upgrade their stadium.

They won't make it :cool:

:d

Thanks MrBrisbane, was thinking of doing it for a while, but now it's October and so close to season start - I think it's safe to say most of the clubs are near to peaked with their present membership growth. Most of their growth already achieved. So we can start to measure these things now, as indicators - read into them etc..

BTW Appreciated Grazorblade's own stats previous page.

Hopefully we also see Clinton pop up again, with his running tally and accompanying graph, for City's membership growth, vis a vis, Old Heart.

All quite interesting and enthusiasm brought about by all this, as Grazorblade put, 13% growth we've seen.

Also, thread = thread for stats geeks? ;) :p :cool:

Oh for sure Grazors stats, props where its due. This thread geeks with more info than the rest in Fantasy Aleague ;)

cheers guys :)

grazorblade is da best! ;)

awww a lot of love in this forum right now

Hi guys can I join too :3

TheSelectFew is da best. Feeling Horny :lol:

Wanderers 16,793.

Do wanderers memberships all count as pets?

Seeing as they are all animals.

Always bby <3

9,000: 39.5 per day
9,300: 77 per day
9,500: 102 per day
10,000: 164.5 per day

3125 ahead of Heart at the same time last year

When do they stop membership sales?