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SocaWho wrote:Roar #1 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Fredsta wrote:In the past 24 hours Roar #1 has defended Taylor Swift and Dan Bilzerian, and he's dropped a Bieber gif....  There is nothing to defend, they have done nothing wrong. :lol: And you can't compare Dan and Kim Kardashian, they are nothing alike. People look at the kardashians the wrong way. They are not famous for being famous, they are famous because they have a very popular tv show, the same way the cast of Freinds or Big Bang theory are famous. And I love how people call the kardashians fake, what you don't believe that they really drive around in Rolls Royce's, fly in private jets and party with other big celebs? So they're famous because they have a successful tv show. Ok then, ask yourself; why do they have that tv show in the first place? It's certainly not off their own success as you stated that their success came FROM the tv show. Because she's the daughter of OJ Simpson's lawyer and the woman who married Bruce Jenner? Talk about clinging to your parents success. So she's achieved nothing at this point except being in a sex tape with a b-grade R&B artists and she's given a tv show. From this we can deduce that she is famous for being famous. She's nothing more than the social equivalent of a Remora. No different to the way Dan Bilzerian is surviving off his father's riches and tall stories, being famous for being famous. The cast of tv shows like Friends or Big Bang Theory at least have to have some rudiments of talent as actors and have worked hard to get to where they are. Even before they became famous, Kim was very well known in the Hollywood party scene. She was best friends with Paris Hilton at her peak. She was already mixing with celebs . I'm not sure of the timing of things but I think the tv show probably would have happened anyway regardless of the sex tape. Kim's mother is a marketing genius and a very smart business women, I'm sure she was looking into a tv show anyway to capitalize on Kims growing popularity in Hollywood. I agree. I think a lot of people don't realise that people like 'Kardashian ' are not doing what they are doing purely for attention seeking reasons....its primarily so they can put food on the table for themselves and live the lifestyle they want to live. There's a difference between "liking" someone for what they do and "respecting" someone for what they do. I personally don't like her but she couldn't give a toss about people like you and me, but I give her credit and respect her for being able to create a brand for herself and tapping into a market in which she's able to capitalise on. Edited by SocaWho: 23/8/2014 03:14:21 PM Yep. She didn't become as rich and famous as she is by fluke or luck, a lot of people have tried before and after her without the success she has had. Their mother I believe has a lot to do with it, as I said before, but that's not the only reason. I rank Kris Jenner and Scooter Braun ( Justin Bieber's manager) as 2 of the best marketing brains out there. They are leaders in their field. If the sex tape was what made her so famous, why is it that I can't name one porn star ? And why aren't porn stars house hold names?
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99 Problems
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The bloke cares way to much about what people think about him to claim that he doesn't give a fuck.
The only reason Kim Kardashian still has any relevance is because she married Kanye. She wouldn't even be the most famous of the sisters today if she hadn't. Look at Paris Hilton, she had a sext tape and a successful tv show but the majority of teenagers today would have no fucking idea who she is. Talentless fame doesn't last, and Blizerian will end up in this group
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Roar #1
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99 Problems wrote:The bloke cares way to much about what people think about him to claim that he doesn't give a fuck.
The only reason Kim Kardashian still has any relevance is because she married Kanye. She wouldn't even be the most famous of the sisters today if she hadn't. Look at Paris Hilton, she had a sext tape and a successful tv show but the majority of teenagers today would have no fucking idea who she is. Talentless fame doesn't last, and Blizerian will end up in this group But how long can you expect something like this to last? The kardashians are up to season 9 of their tv show. That's a lot longer then a lot of other tv shows. And Kim is still very much the leader of the family, but Kendall and Kylie are starting to attract a lot of attention for themselves and will inevitably take the reins of the family empire. I think we will be hearing the Kardashian name for many years to come with Kylie taking most of the attention I believe, she is the wilder one, she just celebrated her 17th birthday with Tyga, Chris Brown, Justin Bieber, The Game, Jaden Smith so with a girl hanging around with guys like that, there is bound to be a scandal in the horizon :d
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SocaWho
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Roar #1 wrote:SocaWho wrote:Roar #1 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Fredsta wrote:In the past 24 hours Roar #1 has defended Taylor Swift and Dan Bilzerian, and he's dropped a Bieber gif....  There is nothing to defend, they have done nothing wrong. :lol: And you can't compare Dan and Kim Kardashian, they are nothing alike. People look at the kardashians the wrong way. They are not famous for being famous, they are famous because they have a very popular tv show, the same way the cast of Freinds or Big Bang theory are famous. And I love how people call the kardashians fake, what you don't believe that they really drive around in Rolls Royce's, fly in private jets and party with other big celebs? So they're famous because they have a successful tv show. Ok then, ask yourself; why do they have that tv show in the first place? It's certainly not off their own success as you stated that their success came FROM the tv show. Because she's the daughter of OJ Simpson's lawyer and the woman who married Bruce Jenner? Talk about clinging to your parents success. So she's achieved nothing at this point except being in a sex tape with a b-grade R&B artists and she's given a tv show. From this we can deduce that she is famous for being famous. She's nothing more than the social equivalent of a Remora. No different to the way Dan Bilzerian is surviving off his father's riches and tall stories, being famous for being famous. The cast of tv shows like Friends or Big Bang Theory at least have to have some rudiments of talent as actors and have worked hard to get to where they are. Even before they became famous, Kim was very well known in the Hollywood party scene. She was best friends with Paris Hilton at her peak. She was already mixing with celebs . I'm not sure of the timing of things but I think the tv show probably would have happened anyway regardless of the sex tape. Kim's mother is a marketing genius and a very smart business women, I'm sure she was looking into a tv show anyway to capitalize on Kims growing popularity in Hollywood. I agree. I think a lot of people don't realise that people like 'Kardashian ' are not doing what they are doing purely for attention seeking reasons....its primarily so they can put food on the table for themselves and live the lifestyle they want to live. There's a difference between "liking" someone for what they do and "respecting" someone for what they do. I personally don't like her but she couldn't give a toss about people like you and me, but I give her credit and respect her for being able to create a brand for herself and tapping into a market in which she's able to capitalise on. Edited by SocaWho: 23/8/2014 03:14:21 PM Yep. She didn't become as rich and famous as she is by fluke or luck, a lot of people have tried before and after her without the success she has had. Their mother I believe has a lot to do with it, as I said before, but that's not the only reason. I rank Kris Jenner and Scooter Braun ( Justin Bieber's manager) as 2 of the best marketing brains out there. They are leaders in their field. If the sex tape was what made her so famous, why is it that I can't name one porn star ? And why aren't porn stars house hold names? Its the reality and the signs of the times. Its 'new generation' thinking. I might not agree with it since, Im part of the older generation (i.e. in my 30s) but the results are telling. These people know how to tap into an audience and capitalise on it. If theres demand and the supply can cater for it then it can work. But that doesn't mean I don't have respect for the older crew. Warren Buffett is one of my greatest role models through his philanthropy work, but that doesn't mean I hate on him because he's filthy rich and just because he doesn't want to send some of his money my way. As for KK and Blizarian , at least they are out there having a crack and giving things a go. I have more respect for them than the dole bludger who refuses to get a job and surfs all day or the guy that has to rob a bank to steal. Edited by SocaWho: 23/8/2014 03:58:14 PMEdited by SocaWho: 23/8/2014 03:59:19 PM
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Intelligent well educated young people have little interest in aspiring to be a talentless pseudo celebrity like Kim Kardashian. These people more often than not end up in tertiary education and become a successful key member of society.
The reason why this shallow rubbish is a problem, is because the vast majority of society is made up of vacuous working class airheads, whose ultimate job in society is to work menial working class roles and watch TV shows like "The Voice"
In the past, these youngsters looked up to their parents, teachers, sporting coaches, grandparents etc, where an "honest hard-working living" was instilled into them from a young age.
Now they look up to people who perpetuate a shallow existence, and are thus being exposed to bad role models. This is not solely the fault of Kim Kardashian or Dan Blizerian in a similar way that McDonald's is not solely responsible for the obesity epidemic. It is what it is and its a problem for society though.
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u4486662 wrote:Intelligent well educated young people have little interest in aspiring to be a talentless pseudo celebrity like Kim Kardashian. These people more often than not end up in tertiary education and become a successful key member of society.
The reason why this shallow rubbish is a problem, is because the vast majority of society is made up of vacuous working class airheads, whose ultimate job in society is to work menial working class roles and watch TV shows like "The Voice"
In the past, these youngsters looked up to their parents, teachers, sporting coaches, grandparents etc, where an "honest hard-working living" was instilled into them from a young age.
Now they look up to people who perpetuate a shallow existence, and are thus being exposed to bad role models. This is not solely the fault of Kim Kardashian or Dan Blizerian in a similar way that McDonald's is not solely responsible for the obesity epidemic. It is what it is and its a problem for society though. The art of parenting seems to have gone out the window which leads kids to look for other role models. The Improvement in technology and social media also has a role to play. Im sure a large percentage of parents have no idea of the things their kids are doing, and the parents who think their 14 yr old little girl is an angel are the ones who are the furthest from the truth :lol: sadly it seems in todays world its acceptable for a 14 years olds birthday party to include a couple of cartons of cruisers and bottles of vodka. And you cant tell me the parents dont know.
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SocaWho
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Roar #1 wrote:u4486662 wrote:Intelligent well educated young people have little interest in aspiring to be a talentless pseudo celebrity like Kim Kardashian. These people more often than not end up in tertiary education and become a successful key member of society.
The reason why this shallow rubbish is a problem, is because the vast majority of society is made up of vacuous working class airheads, whose ultimate job in society is to work menial working class roles and watch TV shows like "The Voice"
In the past, these youngsters looked up to their parents, teachers, sporting coaches, grandparents etc, where an "honest hard-working living" was instilled into them from a young age.
Now they look up to people who perpetuate a shallow existence, and are thus being exposed to bad role models. This is not solely the fault of Kim Kardashian or Dan Blizerian in a similar way that McDonald's is not solely responsible for the obesity epidemic. It is what it is and its a problem for society though. The art of parenting seems to have gone out the window which leads kids to look for other role models. The Improvement in technology and social media also has a role to play. Im sure a large percentage of parents have no idea of the things their kids are doing, and the parents who think their 14 yr old little girl is an angel are the ones who are the furthest from the truth :lol: sadly it seems in todays world its acceptable for a 14 years olds birthday party to include a couple of cartons of cruisers and bottles of vodka. And you cant tell me the parents dont know. The art of parenting has gone out of the window partly and mainly because divorce is so common so kids look for other role models to look up to. For example look at Eminem. I beg to differ that a lot of younger people use him as a role model not because he raps about bad stuff but because he relates to them on their level that they might have gone through a bad childhood, lived as a houso, always changing schools, having a single parent raised them, etc. He might not be the best role model, but to a lot of youth today I believe he's a working class hero to them. And look at him now, he just witnessed his daughter graduate high school with high grades and he provided the best environment for her to flourish. KK might be famous for doing nothing, but she went from being nobody to somebody. For example someone wanted her name put on the title of some app that they made...and look what happens...that app is in the top 10 charts. That is the power of branding. I think its a shallow and cutthroat world nowadays. Its sad I know. But the reality is, theres a demographic of people who view success as being rich, making lots of money, making themselves look buff or hot,etc....not necessarily as being a good role model, model citizen, work a normal job and do good deeds. Its a society thing. Not one that I agree with, but its the reality and for some people its about survival and they don't have time to be all high and mighty about living a lifestyle that doesn't represent the view of the average common people. Edited by SocaWho: 23/8/2014 05:00:10 PMEdited by SocaWho: 23/8/2014 05:04:46 PM
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Have been laughing my arse off for a good 10 minutes now reading these responses :lol: -PB
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shallow hal wants a gal
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the chicks fuck him cause of his money and he brags about it. He is a tool
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shallow hal wants a gal wrote:the chicks fuck him cause of his money and he brags about it. He is a tool The thing is, this is his 'brand' now. Somewhere along the way he tapped into the teen boy fantasy market and is becoming its poster boy. He is effectively becoming the male Paris Hilton, and he will make truckloads of money from this image.
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paulbagzFC wrote:Have been laughing my arse off for a good 10 minutes now reading these responses :lol:
-PB And over such a seemingly innocent question
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Carlito
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Hey any thing socawho and or wamackie start a post people will hate .
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SocaWho
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Hey some things socawho and or wamackie start a post people will hate . Fixed. Coming from the guy who is the Master of Sanctimony in 442.:lol: And thinks that its his way or the highway.:roll: Edited by SocaWho: 24/8/2014 08:41:10 PM
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Jong Gabe
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Socawho: Troll or legit bad poster?
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GabMVFC wrote:Socawho: Troll or legit bad poster? Life's great mystery.
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General Ashnak
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This thread has been a great relative age/maturity test for the forum haha
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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General Ashnak wrote:This thread has been a great relative age/maturity test for the forum haha Absolutely :lol:
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General Ashnak wrote:This thread has been a great relative age/maturity test for the forum haha Yes.
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Jong Gabe
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u4486662 wrote:General Ashnak wrote:This thread has been a great relative age/maturity test for the forum haha Yes. I'm 12
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Eastern Glory
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GabMVFC wrote:u4486662 wrote:General Ashnak wrote:This thread has been a great relative age/maturity test for the forum haha Yes. I'm 12 Aren't you 17?
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Eastern Glory wrote:GabMVFC wrote:u4486662 wrote:General Ashnak wrote:This thread has been a great relative age/maturity test for the forum haha Yes. I'm 12 Aren't you 17? Troled.
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GabMVFC wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:GabMVFC wrote:u4486662 wrote:General Ashnak wrote:This thread has been a great relative age/maturity test for the forum haha Yes. I'm 12 Aren't you 17? Troled. Aaaaaand that's a wrap.
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Jong Gabe
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Eastern Glory wrote:GabMVFC wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:GabMVFC wrote:u4486662 wrote:General Ashnak wrote:This thread has been a great relative age/maturity test for the forum haha Yes. I'm 12 Aren't you 17? Troled. Aaaaaand that's a crap. hee hee #justtwelveythings
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Roar #1
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GabMVFC wrote:u4486662 wrote:General Ashnak wrote:This thread has been a great relative age/maturity test for the forum haha Yes. I'm 12 Wanna meet up ;)
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Carlito
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SocaWho wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Hey some things socawho and or wamackie start a post people will hate . Fixed. Coming from the guy who is the Master of Sanctimony in 442.:lol: And thinks that its his way or the highway.:roll: Edited by SocaWho: 24/8/2014 08:41:10 PM :lol: socawho trying to troll me ? :lol: that's funny . What's next your top 3 ..oh wait
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Carlito
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Also it ain't my way or the highway . I'm just sick of idiots like you who idolize idiots like zzyz, sharky, chest brah and bilzerian . But you're in their target market of course you love them because you want to live a vapid lifestyle
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SocaWho
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Also it ain't my way or the highway . I'm just sick of idiots like you who idolize idiots like zzyz, sharky, chest brah and bilzerian . But you're in their target market of course you love them because you want to live a vapid lifestyle You just oxymoroned yourself big time....and the sad thing is you didn't even know it.#-o And since when did I say I idolise any of these guys. ...and when did I ever mention zzyz, sharky or anyone aside from Blizarian or Kardashian. All I said was I respect Blizarian and KK for making a quid and having the balls to do it the way they've done. But you're too stupid to separate the difference between idolising and respect so you can wear that dunce cap that fits your head. Read a dictionary and see what defines "respect" and "idolising" because you're too dumb to work out what they both mean. Start back from page 1 and start again or did you not learn to read...otherwise its not too late to start matriculation. Edited by SocaWho: 24/8/2014 11:33:47 PMEdited by SocaWho: 24/8/2014 11:34:33 PM
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Carlito
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Go and get fucked you dumb fuck . I don't need to deal with childish fucks like you . Try being an adult . Oh wait you want that celeb lifestyle
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SocaWho
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Go and get fucked you dumb fuck . I don't need to deal with childish fucks like you . Try being an adult . Oh wait you want that celeb lifestyle You just got mad and lost the argument. Back to school for you :d . You couldn't even back up your statement so you had to swear at me....you couldn't even rationalise an argument. Your easy pickings. Edited by SocaWho: 24/8/2014 11:37:18 PM
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Roar #1
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Also it ain't my way or the highway . I'm just sick of idiots like you who idolize idiots like zzyz, sharky, chest brah and bilzerian . But you're in their target market of course you love them because you want to live a vapid lifestyle Who the fuck is zyzz, sharky and chest brah? :lol:
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