The resident NLP advocate, cultist & all round amoral disgrace on this forum is far far worse than this guy.

The resident NLP advocate, cultist & all round amoral
disgrace on this forum is far far worse than this guy.

Dapper Laughs: vile, humourless misogyny? It’s banter, innit?
By giving the self-styled comic Dapper Laughs his own show, ITV is endorsing his damaging brand of lad culture

You may not have heard of Dapper Laughs. Lucky you. Allow me to enlighten you, if that is the word. Dapper – the cheeky nom de guerre of south Londoner Daniel O’Reilly – is very much the Nigel Farage of modern comedy. Like Farage, Dapper managed to build up a remarkable grassroots fanbase long before he troubled the awareness of mainstream audiences, without any of the usual costly publicity machinery, armed only with a smartphone and views that apparently strike a chord with “ordinary blokes”.

Through his various social media accounts Dapper posts videos of himself engaging in “banter”, which mainly consists of shouting sexual comments or insults at women in the street while filming their reaction. “Hey darling, can I smell your fanny?” – that sort of fun. You might be forgiven for confusing this with sexual harassment, just as people often confuse some of Ukip’s view with racism, but that’s probably because you’re one of those humourless liberals or feminists who fail to understand the basic concept of “banter”, which is that you’re allowed to say anything you like to anybody, no matter how offensive, as long as it’s a joke, because, y’know, free speech.

Dapper now has his own “dating” show on ITV2, in which he dishes out advice on how to “get pussy” to lonely “gashless” lads who lack his charms. People, including male comics and commentators, not just us humourless feminists, have quite reasonably protested that the show legitimises the most base kind of misogyny, glorifying a lad culture that reduces women to a collection of holes to be conquered (by whatever means), dismissed and jeered at afterwards.

ITV is presumably too “moist” (Dapper’s favourite word) at the prospect of his nearly two million Facebook followers, an untapped audience previously below the radar of the comedy industry, to trouble itself with such tricky moral questions as whether it is promoting predatory attitudes.

“All humour is subjective”, its viewer services officer helpfully explained last week in an email response to a (male) Twitter user who had contacted ITV to complain, going on to say that, while Dapper’s humour may be “risque”, “his unique brand of banter and brash charm is neither sexist nor degrading to women”. (This despite the fact that he jokes about beating his girlfriend.) You see? Banter! Bit of fun! If you’re offended, well, it’s obviously not your sense of humour. If you even have one.

Like Ukip, Dapper has also recently embroiled himself in a controversy with a charity. He’s made a Christmas “album”, Proper Naughty Christmas, the proceeds of which, he claims, will be going to “the homeless”. He doesn’t specify which charity and, according to a spokesperson for Sony Music, the album is not billed as a charity album, but let’s give Dapper the benefit of the doubt and assume he fully intended to give all the profits to help the homeless.

Things turned nasty last week when two writers from the website UsVsTh3m.com reviewed the album, pointing out that, in it, he insults a tramp who, he says, “stinks of shit”. This is a bit like helping the homeless by throwing pound coins and trying to hit them on the head, for fun.

Dapper responded by encouraging his Twitter followers to tell the two writers, Nathaniel Tapley and Abi Wilkinson, to “fuck off”, resulting in a deluge of vicious insults to both, including threats of violence and rape (banter!) and some fans tweeting abuse direct to the homeless charity Shelter. (Presumably whether you find that hilarious or offensive is also “subjective”.)

There’s a happy footnote: having publicly stated that it would not accept any donations from Dapper Laughs, Shelter went on to raise £3,628 in 24 hours from Twitter users wanting to show support for Tapley and Wilkinson.

Dapper Laughs is a modern phenomenon – the internet sensation who has crossed into the mainstream. Like every other performer with a public platform, he now has to accept that his work will receive public criticism. He’s not the first comedian to set his fans on someone who disagrees with him – Ricky Gervais was accused of cyber-bullying two years ago for the same thing – but if he has hopes of building a television career, he would do well to bear in mind his ITV overlords’ mantra that all comedy is subjective. Some people will find fault with it and that’s also called free speech. Mobilising the pitchforks every time starts to look a lot like harassment.

See some definite continuities in the rhetoric they employ. Men have been feminised, alpha, beta, assertion of masculinity as policy, etc etc.

Why would I pay for tickets to a conference where I was the keynote speaker?

Notor, serious question.

Where does this pick up culture fit in with redpill? Is it a part of the movement?

When Immigration Minister Scott Morrison unexpectedly cancelled United States pick-up artist Julien Blanc's visa on Thursday it capped off a week that started with an online campaign and ended in a real-world protest.

Blanc was in Australia to host a series of seminars on how to attract women. His repertoire includes choking women, grabbing their heads and pushing them toward his groin and advising his followers how to destroy a woman's "bitch shield".

Critics were quick to condemn what they said was Blanc's promotion of abuse towards women. Social media lit up with the hashtag #takedownjulienblanc, which trended for the rest of the week. Thousands of people tweeted and posted comments on Facebook against Blanc; almost 35,000 signed an online petition.

"Julien Blanc is sexually assaulting women and then teaching rooms full of men to do the same. He should be arrested,"one Twitter user wrote.

The hashtag phenomena, spilled over into the real world, culminating in a protest on the banks of the Yarra River on Thursday night. The river cruise boat that was hosting him cancelled the event before it started and asked police to remove men who had come to hear Blanc speak after they refused to leave.

Although Blanc has left the country, in his wake he has left an argument over freedom of speech.

His advice may be deplorable, but Blanc's seminars are not illegal. Should he have been allowed take to the stage without disruption, let alone kicked out of the country?

Simon Breheny, director of the legal rights project at the Institute of Public Affairs, said it would have been better to let his seminar go ahead.

"The answer to bad speech is more speech. If someone says something I don't like, rather than calling in the police and saying this guy should be fined or sent to jail, we should explain to people why we think those ideas are bad and why we shouldn't listen to him," he said.

"Why is it that a government bureaucrat gets to decide what ideas you and I hear at forums we freely choose to attend? That's a very concerning idea."

Deakin University social media academic Deb Waterhouse-Watson was surprised Blanc's visa was cancelled, but supported Scott Morrison's intervention.

"I was surprised it went that far, but yes, I think it was the right thing to do," she said. "You shouldn't have freedom of speech if you're advocating crime."

Blanc's arrival came just days after Victoria Police chief commissioner Ken Lay described "vulgar and violent attitudes towards women" as a key cause of gender-based violence. Twenty-nine women were killed by the partners in Victoria in 2013.

Lay described Blanc's work as "deeply disturbing and offensive".

Feminist and writer Clementine Ford said she was most concerned that there was an audience eager to listen to Blanc's advice.

"It won't help them communicate with women. It doesn't encourage any kind of genuine connection between men and women. It only encourages objectification," she says.

The global protest against Blanc has now moved to Japan, where he is next due to appear.

Blanc has not commented, but one of his colleagues at dating company Real Social Dynamics has downplayed the incident, saying the controversy stems from one video being taken out of context.

"I think Julien's video was absolutely stupid," co-founder Owen Cook, who uses the name Tyler online, wrote on the company's web forums.

"It was totally out of context and he posted it to get shock, not realising the full outcome. I'm sorry about the video."

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Julien Blanc is not the first controversial figure to be denied a visa or had it stripped after arriving in the country.

VISA CANCELLED -

LORENZO ERVIN

The US Black Panther's visitor's visa was cancelled by then-Immigration Minister Philip Ruddock in July 1997, just as Ervin left the country. The government change of heart occurred over Ervin's US convictions of air piracy and kidnapping.

VISA DENIED -

BILAL PHILIPS

The Canadian-based Muslim cleric banned from entering Australia to attend a Melbourne conference in April 2007 following reports linking him to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Centre.

CORDOZAR CALVIN BROADUS AKA SNOOP DOGG

Kevin Andrews tried to block the popular rapper's visa in April 2007 over a previous no contest plea over gun and drug charges in the US. He was later allowed in to perform at several music festivals.

GEORGE SPEIGHT

The Fijian coup leader was banned by Howard government in 2000 because of his role in overthrowing of the Fijian government that same year. He was also banned by other countries, including the US and New Zealand.

GERRY ADAMS

The Sinn Fein leader was banned in 1997 by John Howard because of his links to the Irish Republican Army but the ban was lifted in 1999.

DAVID IRVING

The Keating government banned the discredited right-wing historian and convicted Holocaust denier from entering Australia in 1993. He has unsuccessfully tried to gain entry four times, most recently in 2003.

EGON KISCH

The Czech writer and Communist sympathiser banned in 1934 by Robert Menzies after he failed an European language test when it was given in Gaelic. He was eventually allowed to stay after legal action and popular support.

Women use techniques to woo men as well. .

I find some of their posts funny especially when they keep on talking about the bachelor . :lol: but the posts on this guy sicken me . They let slide some posts about murder and castrating him but posts about not condoning that gets deleted

That site is an absolute cesspit of feminist BS and anti humour, I always cringe whenever I see one of their stories pop up on my news feed.

I wouldn't be critical of people like Julian - just the people who feel the need to go to see people like Julian to learn a pretty simple trick... Talk to women, and be confident about yourself when you do it. You don't need anything more than that.

Yep epic media beat up . Mama Mia have posted numerous posts about the guy . Most of them are quiet disturbing .

Visa revoked, He's been deported.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/melbourne-pick-up-protest

By 'average Aussie male' do you mean 'bloke who doesn't know how to talk to women' - because, really, it's not f*cking hard to talk to a woman, and so long as you're not a dick it's not difficult to get from talking to 'getting laid'.

^ The fact is: Hes about as harmful as that Tom Cruise character in that movie, Are you saying we should ban tom cruise and his movies? :-k

Would this session be anything like this;

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-PB