Good on you.

Perhaps I should stop posting facts and just agree with the groupthink that goes on around here just to be popular.

I notice you didn't answer my question about Chinese viagra and the fact that apparently because it's "traditional" it's OK to kill rhinos.

You and Soca are cut from the same cloth. Cast aspersions around the place, miss the point, abuse the poster rather than engage the salient points.

fuck that is one stupid analogy.

you do know what viagra was made for right? And it wasnt for erectile problwma either. Traditional medicine does help . Juat because you said it doesnt , doesnt mean anything. Like I said doctors recommend some paitents use it in conjunction but youbknow better than medically trained doctors right. Your arguing for the sake of arguing and trying to be holier than though whoops I forgot you also despise those who are religious as well

Yes I have heard of the placebo effect. Yes it's real.

Th OP wrote initially that this Belle Gibson sheila was a disgusting piece of work for recommending treatments that didn't work.

All I did, and this seems to be where everyone is missing the point, is say that if she's bad then all these other clowns are too.

Apparently according to Soca she's despicable because she misrepresented herself as a medical practitioner. Chinese herbalists and witchdoctors are OK though because something something mumble mumble. Oh, that's right my Aunty went once and she had a result.

Who's to say this Belle Gibson sheila didn't produce a placebo effect? And if she did does that mean Soca and everyone else that put the boot in will withdraw their scorn for her.

Probably not. They'll just use their illogical reasoning to say 1 + 1 = 3.

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If it works, and you'll note I said it could work, then do the studies and publish the results.

BTW hows that google search going for the peer reviewed traditional medicine efficacy going.

Make sure you put in the search terms minus anything that doesn't do better than the control group under placebo treatment.

Whatever. You can't answer a simple question so that shows you've got no clue.

Last chance. Is it OK to kill rhinos for traditional Chinese medicine?

It's not a hard question. Just answer it.

PUBLISH

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RESULTS

i aware of what you say and dont disagree scientific studies based on medical research is overwhelmingly more reliable than alternative meds. i dont dispute that. what i do disputr is mumbruz conpletely declaring all alternative meds as quack. which is a contradiction considering GPs do find alternative meds as a good complement to some western medicine to treat symptoms.

I didn't realise you were a doctor so thanks for the insight into what goes on in a doctor's office.

This what you wrote on page 1.

Nowhere did I disagree with this.



One page 1 I said this.

If you lock her up you need to lock up every acupuncturist, chiropracter, homeopath, herbalist, anti vaxxer, Bowen therapist and countless other peanuts across Australia for the misinformation they peddle every day of the week.

All of these clowns do exactly what you said Belle Gibson does. They prey on people's desperation and insufficient scientific understandings.

Not only that, despite having no evidence or peer reviewed studies, they do it under a veneer of respectability such as being available in pharmacies like homeopathic remedies or being claimable from your health insurance like Bowen therapy or naturopathy.

They are far more dangerous than this silly girl.

Ok I have to step in now.

Munrub is right.
If your GP is referring for alternative medicines then find another GP.
The only exception is acupuncture which has shown some evidence in randomised controlled trials to help with anxiety. Although the statistical significance was limited. Some GPs are now trained in acupuncture. The other forms of alternative medicines do not stack up to evidence based trials.
There was a big trial not too long ago on herbal medicines to treat menopause. None were better than placebo, most were harmless, but some caused liver disease.

Homeopathy is the greatest scam in history. It's hard to believe people can fall for what is just water. Like it's literally just water.
Most alternative therapies get away with their placebo affect and the fact that they are mostly harmless. But they do jack shit when compared to placebo.

Belle Gibson?

I thought it was Mel Gibson

EDIT I've never shot up so much over a cancer sufferer, thanks! :-$

Edited by condemned666: 5/5/2015 05:48:22 PM