1. language is language. get over it and call a spade a spade. lawyers and activists will always dream up reasons why we should remove more and more words from the english language. this is cultural marxism and this is not ok.

2. largely covered in previous post

3. archaic notions that have worked for thousands of years and hence the survival of the human race. statistics show that children growing up with one bio parent families have less chance of success in life and more chance of prison. that doesnt mean its a sure thing, but there's nothing wrong with promoting a successful model.

4. pay structures are already equal. the application of them may not be, but this is entirely subjective and any solution that involves equal pay for equal work being enforced by government will result in less women being employed as the price on prejudice will have been removed. it will be counter productive to your aims.

5. so you're talking about quotas in government? do you think that will solve anything?
you do you realise that governments are decided on a popular vote in a democracy?
you do realise that our head of state is actually a woman?

6. i havent witnessed this personally. In the corporate world actually men are terrified of women in power and afford them more respect as a result than their female colleagues.



Edited by ricecrackers: 12/5/2015 08:23:09 PM

That's because the Grand Poobah of the MRA 442 club is currently banned. Funny how the tone of the forum has been vastly improved since then.

For sure some of his underlings pop their heads in now and then but they're far less likely to stick their heads above the parapet now that their Dear Leader isn't about.

Another point on women in employment, a lot of it is their own doing. This country and a lot of the western world via mostly popular culture, celebrity culture etc makes a lot of employment options seem unappealing to women and hence women dont go in certain spheres of employment by their own choice because they're so influenced by popular culture.

This didnt exist to the same degree in eastern european nations where you'll find many more women tackling jobs in certain technical and scientific fields by proportion than you will here.

I worked for a time in one of these male dominated fields and the imports from eastern europe were far better and more abundant than any of the female options available who were raised here.

When I went to university you'd see quite a few women doing biology and medicine, but near to none in physics, computer science, mathematics and other hard sciences that werent from asia. Why? because those latter fields werent marketed as sexy, they didnt have a cool TV show that made them appealing.

Backpedal all you want peanut the writing is metaphorically on the wall. No one has missed the point. You've nailed your colours to the mast for all to see.



So would you like to clarify exactly what you meant by that "specifically"?

You've used a homophobic slur to insult me and then wondered if I'm transgender because apparently I've identified myself as a feminist. (As if that is some sort of a crime.)

Not only that you've assumed, wrongly, that only women can be feminists.

Not that I give a shit what you think but for the record I am a feminist. (If you have a wife, a daughter, a mother, an aunt, a niece or a sister you should be too.)

As for the rest of your drivel it's hard to know where to start.

Go back to page one and read it again. No one said you were wrong. My comment was (with regards to 433 Fredsta) that if a columnist, in this case a Clem Ford, annoys you so much, stop reading what she's writing.

That was it.

You've gone off half cocked and instead of keeping schtum you've continued posting and fully, 100%, embarrassed yourself.

Just leave it be dude.


Edited to clarify initial poster.


Edited by MUNRUBENMUZ: 12/5/2015 09:10:35 PM

What homophobic slur did I use....please enlighten me...

otherwise shut up and take your medicine

Edited by Socawho: 12/5/2015 09:16:38 PM

@ Scoll, Inalah and Draupnir.

Not to blow smoke up your arses or anything but I am heartened to see you blokes go to the trouble of making comprehensive and well thought out rebuttals and arguments whenever these threads come up.

Long may it continue.

@ Crackers.

You've become semi-reasonable and readable over the last week or so. Congrats. (Are you feeling well?)

How is feminist worshipping nob jockey a slur?

try walking in my shoes in this place and see how long you can remain reasonable for

......................MvFCArsenal16.8






Edited by MUNRUBENMUZ: 12/5/2015 11:34:56 PM

Ummm what??

these things are EXACTLY the problem. womens work is undervalued. womens lives are undervalued. female dominated industries (occupations) are underpaid compared to male dominated industries.

positions - they are not given the same level of advancement as men. so they are paid less again.

female dominated education streams are also undervalued compared to male dominated. equivalent levels of education in female dominated industries attract a lower pay level than the equivalent for male dominated industries. if you want more on this you should read up on the recent social services court case that has bought about a much overdue pay rise for many women.

tenure and work hours. women are often involved in unpaid external duties. they are socially and societally lumped with responsibilities that prevent equal representation in the work force and therefore equal pay.


Edited by inala brah: 12/5/2015 11:13:01 PM

It's nothing sexist about it - it's supply and demand. Anyone with even the most rudimentary understanding of economics would understand this.

Anyone can become a primary school teacher/nurse, whereas being an engineer/doctor requires loads of hard work. Women as a whole (of course there are numerous exceptions to this) gravitate towards less STEM orientated courses. Therefore they make less money. Once again, there are ofcourse women who are in STEM. But looking at it from a statistical point of view females tend to choose social work over hard sciences.

It's their choice, and you can hardly describe basic supply/demand as "sexist".

Says the bloke telling me a person with a penis can be a woman :lol:

:lol:

......................433



That's nearly all of them.

This thread would be 4x in length and blocked by now had notor not been banned lol.

-PB

i like Draupy being the good fella he is but im gonna have to disagree with him on this one 😀
maybe Draupy thinks we are like those plants that dont need a partner and just impregnate oursrlves

Edited by Socawho: 13/5/2015 08:42:57 AM

geez drink a teaspoon of cement will you , youre not even gay so why are you even offended at all. and it was just a figure of speech like calling you an idiot...if gays here are offended i apologize since it wasnt referring to that group. just mumbruz


Edited by Socawho: 13/5/2015 11:51:42 AM

Being offended on behalf of someone else is all the rage today.

-PB

Nah its all the rage to be offended by someone disagreeing that femnazi'ss are freaking idiots

seems like it

ill start a hashtag to make him feel better...

#illridewithmumbruz

oh wait he might get offended by that as well

Mumbruzs life wouldnt be conplete if there was someone out there that didnt offend him.

Edited by Socawho: 13/5/2015 11:50:16 AM

Edited by Socawho: 13/5/2015 11:53:29 AM

:shock:

Wow. I honestly don't understand how someone could physically type that out and then read it back without realizing how much of a giant twat they sound like.

Why are there so many pro feminists on here?...
it seems
.....if you dont put women on a pedastal you are mysogonist.
....if you call out someone for doing something wrong AND they are women you are mysogonist
...if you are proud that you are born with a penis you are mysogonist
...if you call offend someone by calling them something they arent or are ...you are mysogonist
...if you dont think the same as mumbruz you are mysogonist.
fuck me dead...no wonder women think there is a man shortage in Australia.

i dont hate women but it seems that if you dont put them on a pedastal or just engage in any sort of meaningful debate then you get accused for hating them. WTF is wrong with some people?

go get a castration and become an eunach...you dont deserve to be in the realm
of men...especially you mumbruz


Edited by Socawho: 13/5/2015 01:42:09 PM

Edited by Socawho: 13/5/2015 01:56:29 PM

Edited by Socawho: 13/5/2015 01:57:35 PM

Fuck me dead are you retarded or what?

I'll give you a $1000 if you can find in this thread where I called you a misogynist you brain dead moron.

Again for the special children here with learning diffculties.

Go back to page one and read it again. No one said you were wrong. My comment was (with regards to Fredsta) that if a columnist, in this case a Clem Ford, annoys you so much, stop reading what she's writing.

That was it.

Then you slagged me off because oh my god "someone disagress with me".

Called me a "feminist worshipping nob jockey"

Wondered if my real name is Bruce Jenner.

Implied a bunch of other shit.

Your idiocy is bottomless pit.

Hey Soca you're a brain dead typical Asian fuckstick but "no offence" because I know you have a brain and it's just a figure of speech.

No offence.

You seem to manage it OK everytime you post. Any hints?

not aimed at me you say mumbruz. you got a short memory span....or maybe you just sprout shit and then you just forget about it because you have the attention span of a goldfish.
you are like a bull in a china shop...so out of control to the point where you probably need a strait jacket

go jam it.



Edited by Socawho: 13/5/2015 02:12:19 PM

Edited by Socawho: 13/5/2015 02:14:16 PM

Try again.

I know english isn't your first language but where exactly in that sentence does it say you are wrong.

I said "that's a pretty poor attempt at filling Notorganic's shoes".

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

-PB

i know what you meant by that statement since we all know what The NO viewpoint is.
dont act all stupid by thinking your subtle dig at me wasnt anything but.
you are all over the shop...go clean yourself up son.... it must be a long day for you....like every day 😄😄

Edited by Socawho: 13/5/2015 02:20:20 PM

Edited by Socawho: 13/5/2015 02:25:53 PM