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433 wrote:
It hasn't made me more worried, it just reaffirmed my worries.

And I laugh at MCJules in his nice whitebread Adelaide suburb telling it how it is in Western Sydney.

As long as we choose only Christian women and children as was the plan originally, then I think we should be fine.

meh i wouldnt worry about mcjules.
if an academic phd wrote a book saying the world was flat he would probly find some way to justify it.
methinks he collects postcards as a hobby and conceptulizes in his own mind what it might be like there only to fool himself into thinking he has actually been there when he hasnt.
hes a bit like Frodo of the Shire before he set out,

Edited by Socawho: 17/11/2015 02:37:40 PM

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SocaWho wrote:
433 wrote:
It hasn't made me more worried, it just reaffirmed my worries.

And I laugh at MCJules in his nice whitebread Adelaide suburb telling it how it is in Western Sydney.

As long as we choose only Christian women and children as was the plan originally, then I think we should be fine.

meh i wouldnt worry about mcjules.
if an academic phd wrote a book saying the world was flat he would probly find some way to justify it.
methinks he collects postcards as a hobby and conceptulizes in his own mind what it might be like there only to fool himself into thinking he has actually been there when he hasnt.
hes a bit like Frodo of the Shire before he set out,


:lol:

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mcjules wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
433 wrote:
It hasn't made me more worried, it just reaffirmed my worries.

And I laugh at MCJules in his nice whitebread Adelaide suburb telling it how it is in Western Sydney.

As long as we choose only Christian women and children as was the plan originally, then I think we should be fine.

meh i wouldnt worry about mcjules.
if an academic phd wrote a book saying the world was flat he would probly find some way to justify it.
methinks he collects postcards as a hobby and conceptulizes in his own mind what it might be like there only to fool himself into thinking he has actually been there when he hasnt.
hes a bit like Frodo of the Shire before he set out,


:lol:

you know im right :lol: ...you got knocked da fuck out !



Edited by Socawho: 17/11/2015 02:58:31 PM
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mcjules...do you ever talk from experience when it comes to anything?😀

you know who you remind me of?
youre like an imposter who claims to have served in Afghanistan and goes around wearing medals peddling war stories yet has never a served a day in the army in his life.😀😀👊👊

it wouldnt surprise if you have an agenda on everything yet never talk from experience.

Hence that makes you as somewhat of fraud , does it not?

think about it...in a previous post you say you read about a book of what Japan might be like yet you use your own imagination of what you think its like to bolster your argument on issue.

and before you shoot down my argument like you usually do, i havent resorted to any form of petty insult or nastiness to debate your posts so you can stop using the argument that my posts to you arent rationalized enough for you to digest.

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Scotch&Coke wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
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mcjules wrote:
What a ridiculous video :lol:

Explain how it is ridiculous.

We don't take immigrants in to reduce poverty in the country of origin for one.
Refugees we do take in on humanitarian grounds but no one is pretending it's the entire solution.

The guy has an agenda on population growth and it's effect on the environment. That's a position I can respect but the whole premise of this video is alarmist and frankly flawed.

Is there a better solution?


Yes.

The middle east should take these people. They are culturally similar. This should be a regional problem, not a global one.


Many already are. Our quota is nothing compared to Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan, Egypt and even Iraq of all places. 12000 is a drop in the ocean


Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kuwait, Oman, UAE.......
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SocaWho wrote:
mcjules...do you ever talk from experience when it comes to anything?😀

All the time

SocaWho wrote:
you know who you remind me of?
youre like an imposter who claims to have served in Afghanistan and goes around wearing medals peddling war stories yet has never a served a day in the army in his life.😀😀👊👊

OK

SocaWho wrote:
it wouldnt surprise if you have an agenda on everything yet never talk from experience.

Hence that makes you as somewhat of fraud , does it not?

think about it...in a previous post you say you read about a book of what Japan might be like yet you use your own imagination of what you think its like to bolster your argument on issue.

I never said I read a book about Japan to form my opinion.

SocaWho wrote:
and before you shoot down my argument like you usually do, i havent resorted to any form of petty insult or nastiness to debate your posts so you can stop using the argument that my posts to you arent rationalized enough for you to digest.

Petty insults and nastiness aren't why some of your posts aren't rational. Some of them just plain don't make sense or are contradictory. I appreciate the time you put into your post this time though. Have a nice day and I hope we are both celebrating a big win tonight in Dhaka =d>

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SocaWho wrote:
mcjules...do you ever talk from experience when it comes to anything?😀


people from adelaide rarely do :)
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BETHFC wrote:
Scotch&Coke wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
mcjules wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
mcjules wrote:
What a ridiculous video :lol:

Explain how it is ridiculous.

We don't take immigrants in to reduce poverty in the country of origin for one.
Refugees we do take in on humanitarian grounds but no one is pretending it's the entire solution.

The guy has an agenda on population growth and it's effect on the environment. That's a position I can respect but the whole premise of this video is alarmist and frankly flawed.

Is there a better solution?


Yes.

The middle east should take these people. They are culturally similar. This should be a regional problem, not a global one.


Many already are. Our quota is nothing compared to Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan, Egypt and even Iraq of all places. 12000 is a drop in the ocean


Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kuwait, Oman, UAE.......


Hence the term "many" not "all". Why flee one dictatorship to go to another?
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:lol: Socawho you really are clueless mate.

People disagree with your thread and your response is to:

- refuse to continue discussing it with them because you've got nothing (as you did with me)
- totally misrepresent their opinions (like you did with mcjules)
- claim that because they're from a particular city they're incapable of holding an opinion on the matter (also mcjules)
- ignore everyone else and make another incoherent post spouting the same bullshit (pretty much every instance in this thread)

What's the point of discussing something if you're not willing to have a discussion?
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Scotch&Coke wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Scotch&Coke wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
mcjules wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
mcjules wrote:
What a ridiculous video :lol:

Explain how it is ridiculous.

We don't take immigrants in to reduce poverty in the country of origin for one.
Refugees we do take in on humanitarian grounds but no one is pretending it's the entire solution.

The guy has an agenda on population growth and it's effect on the environment. That's a position I can respect but the whole premise of this video is alarmist and frankly flawed.

Is there a better solution?


Yes.

The middle east should take these people. They are culturally similar. This should be a regional problem, not a global one.


Many already are. Our quota is nothing compared to Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan, Egypt and even Iraq of all places. 12000 is a drop in the ocean


Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kuwait, Oman, UAE.......


Hence the term "many" not "all". Why flee one dictatorship to go to another?


The point is the major, stable ones are doing nothing.
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BETHFC wrote:
Scotch&Coke wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Scotch&Coke wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
mcjules wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
mcjules wrote:
What a ridiculous video :lol:

Explain how it is ridiculous.

We don't take immigrants in to reduce poverty in the country of origin for one.
Refugees we do take in on humanitarian grounds but no one is pretending it's the entire solution.

The guy has an agenda on population growth and it's effect on the environment. That's a position I can respect but the whole premise of this video is alarmist and frankly flawed.

Is there a better solution?


Yes.

The middle east should take these people. They are culturally similar. This should be a regional problem, not a global one.


Many already are. Our quota is nothing compared to Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan, Egypt and even Iraq of all places. 12000 is a drop in the ocean


Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kuwait, Oman, UAE.......


Hence the term "many" not "all". Why flee one dictatorship to go to another?


The point is the major, stable ones are doing nothing.


They are stable because they are controlled by brutal bloodthirsty monarchies in which no one is willing to give a damn about because somehow we decided to ally ourselves with them. No body in their right mind would want to live there, refugees or otherwise
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Scotch&Coke wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Scotch&Coke wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
Scotch&Coke wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
mcjules wrote:
u4486662 wrote:
mcjules wrote:
What a ridiculous video :lol:

Explain how it is ridiculous.

We don't take immigrants in to reduce poverty in the country of origin for one.
Refugees we do take in on humanitarian grounds but no one is pretending it's the entire solution.

The guy has an agenda on population growth and it's effect on the environment. That's a position I can respect but the whole premise of this video is alarmist and frankly flawed.

Is there a better solution?


Yes.

The middle east should take these people. They are culturally similar. This should be a regional problem, not a global one.


Many already are. Our quota is nothing compared to Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan, Egypt and even Iraq of all places. 12000 is a drop in the ocean


Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kuwait, Oman, UAE.......


Hence the term "many" not "all". Why flee one dictatorship to go to another?


The point is the major, stable ones are doing nothing.


They are stable because they are controlled by brutal bloodthirsty monarchies in which no one is willing to give a damn about because somehow we decided to ally ourselves with them. No body in their right mind would want to live there, refugees or otherwise


Sounds like you're describing the USA without the monarchy bit :lol:

I guess it's easier to come to western countries and then complain about how unjust our society is and how much we discriminate against the poor little immigrants...... :lol:
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JP wrote:
:lol: Socawho you really are clueless mate.

People disagree with your thread and your response is to:

- refuse to continue discussing it with them because you've got nothing (as you did with me)
- totally misrepresent their opinions (like you did with mcjules)
- claim that because they're from a particular city they're incapable of holding an opinion on the matter (also mcjules)
- ignore everyone else and make another incoherent post spouting the same bullshit (pretty much every instance in this thread)

What's the point of discussing something if you're not willing to have a discussion?

mcjules claims to know what goes in western sydney when he clearly doesnt live there...shouldnt that tell you something
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JP wrote:
:lol: Socawho you really are clueless mate.

People disagree with your thread and your response is to:

- refuse to continue discussing it with them because you've got nothing (as you did with me)
- totally misrepresent their opinions (like you did with mcjules)
- claim that because they're from a particular city they're incapable of holding an opinion on the matter (also mcjules)
- ignore everyone else and make another incoherent post spouting the same bullshit (pretty much every instance in this thread)

What's the point of discussing something if you're not willing to have a discussion?

mcjules claims to know what goes in western sydney when he clearly doesnt live there...shouldnt that tell you something.

you just want me to keep discussing this topic i started until i agree with you.
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paulbagzFC wrote:
As long as they're vetted correctly and go through all the same processes of checks/balances then I'm ok with it.

-PB


This is how I feel. I'm sure the government is being more careful with the checks now to minimize possible risks, and Australia has been relatively immune to terrorist attacks so far. Whether that's due to good security work or a lack of interest in attacking us, i don't know, but I certainly won't be feeling any less safe when the shock of what happened to Paris eventually wears off.




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Eww.
There's anti-refugee people in this thread.

This place is unclean.
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RedKat wrote:
Socawho we get that you think everyone in Syria is a Muslim extremist waiting to come to Europe and Australia and we get that you hate anything to do with Islam/Muslims and have a nice simplified narrow view of the world. Have you considered maybe not continually using a football forum to vent these views and instead joining a One Nation or United Patriot Front forum where you can have your ignorant, simplified and stupid rant with other like minded individuals so we can be free from your posts? I feel like your only contributions are making stupid threads or rantings like this.

where did i say all of the refugees are terrorists. quote me...until then learn to read

Edited by Socawho: 17/11/2015 06:05:03 PM
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trident wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
mcjules...do you ever talk from experience when it comes to anything?😀


people from adelaide rarely do :)


Lets face it, they don't get much chance to experience things
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RedKat wrote:
Socawho we get that you think everyone in Syria is a Muslim extremist waiting to come to Europe and Australia and we get that you hate anything to do with Islam/Muslims and have a nice simplified narrow view of the world. [size=8]Have you considered maybe not continually using a football forum to vent these views and instead joining a One Nation or United Patriot Front forum [/size]where you can have your ignorant, simplified and stupid rant with other like minded individuals so we can be free from your posts? I feel like your only contributions are making stupid threads or rantings like this.


or the Liberal Party :)
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trident wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Socawho we get that you think everyone in Syria is a Muslim extremist waiting to come to Europe and Australia and we get that you hate anything to do with Islam/Muslims and have a nice simplified narrow view of the world. [size=8]Have you considered maybe not continually using a football forum to vent these views and instead joining a One Nation or United Patriot Front forum [/size]where you can have your ignorant, simplified and stupid rant with other like minded individuals so we can be free from your posts? I feel like your only contributions are making stupid threads or rantings like this.


or the Liberal Party :)


:roll: you and Ricey MKII should meet
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BETHFC wrote:
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RedKat wrote:
Socawho we get that you think everyone in Syria is a Muslim extremist waiting to come to Europe and Australia and we get that you hate anything to do with Islam/Muslims and have a nice simplified narrow view of the world. [size=8]Have you considered maybe not continually using a football forum to vent these views and instead joining a One Nation or United Patriot Front forum [/size]where you can have your ignorant, simplified and stupid rant with other like minded individuals so we can be free from your posts? I feel like your only contributions are making stupid threads or rantings like this.


or the Liberal Party :)


:roll: you and Ricey MKII should meet


was he an LNP stooge? I own them all the time :)
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trident wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
trident wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Socawho we get that you think everyone in Syria is a Muslim extremist waiting to come to Europe and Australia and we get that you hate anything to do with Islam/Muslims and have a nice simplified narrow view of the world. [size=8]Have you considered maybe not continually using a football forum to vent these views and instead joining a One Nation or United Patriot Front forum [/size]where you can have your ignorant, simplified and stupid rant with other like minded individuals so we can be free from your posts? I feel like your only contributions are making stupid threads or rantings like this.


or the Liberal Party :)


:roll: you and Ricey MKII should meet


was he an LNP stooge? I own them all the time :)


No he can't make a post without asserting the intellectual superiority of the left leaning population. He also can't make a post without belittling right wing views.
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BETHFC wrote:
trident wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
trident wrote:
RedKat wrote:
Socawho we get that you think everyone in Syria is a Muslim extremist waiting to come to Europe and Australia and we get that you hate anything to do with Islam/Muslims and have a nice simplified narrow view of the world. [size=8]Have you considered maybe not continually using a football forum to vent these views and instead joining a One Nation or United Patriot Front forum [/size]where you can have your ignorant, simplified and stupid rant with other like minded individuals so we can be free from your posts? I feel like your only contributions are making stupid threads or rantings like this.


or the Liberal Party :)


:roll: you and Ricey MKII should meet


was he an LNP stooge? I own them all the time :)


No he can't make a post without asserting the intellectual superiority of the left leaning population. He also can't make a post without belittling right wing views.


He may have been a worthy ally :)
I enjoy reading Murdoch Rags posts along these lines.
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quickflick wrote:


The biggest sufferers at the hands of the Islamic State are Muslims.



What are you basing that on? If By civilians killed/taken captive/forced to leave thats not true at all.

IS killed 5000+ yezidis in Iraq with the help of their muslim neighbours.
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trident wrote:
BETHFC wrote:
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RedKat wrote:
Socawho we get that you think everyone in Syria is a Muslim extremist waiting to come to Europe and Australia and we get that you hate anything to do with Islam/Muslims and have a nice simplified narrow view of the world. [size=8]Have you considered maybe not continually using a football forum to vent these views and instead joining a One Nation or United Patriot Front forum [/size]where you can have your ignorant, simplified and stupid rant with other like minded individuals so we can be free from your posts? I feel like your only contributions are making stupid threads or rantings like this.


or the Liberal Party :)


:roll: you and Ricey MKII should meet


was he an LNP stooge? I own them all the time :)


No he can't make a post without asserting the intellectual superiority of the left leaning population. He also can't make a post without belittling right wing views.


He may have been a worthy ally :)
I enjoy reading Murdoch Rags posts along these lines.


God help both of you.
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Iridium1010 wrote:
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The biggest sufferers at the hands of the Islamic State are Muslims.



What are you basing that on? If By civilians killed/taken captive/forced to leave thats not true at all.

IS killed 5000+ yezidis in Iraq with the help of their muslim neighbours.


Isn't the death toll in Syria at least 250k now? That's the total death toll, and not just the ones killed by ISIS, but still, that's a lot.
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First refugees arrive in Perth

QUICK! THROW ON A WEST COAST EAGLES/ FREMANTLE DOCKERS SUPPORTER KIT ON ONE OF THEM!

Do you like AFL too?
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JP wrote:
:lol: Socawho you really are clueless mate.

People disagree with your thread and your response is to:

- refuse to continue discussing it with them because you've got nothing (as you did with me)
- totally misrepresent their opinions (like you did with mcjules)
- claim that because they're from a particular city they're incapable of holding an opinion on the matter (also mcjules)
- ignore everyone else and make another incoherent post spouting the same bullshit (pretty much every instance in this thread)

What's the point of discussing something if you're not willing to have a discussion?


Just stopped by to drop in on the usual Socawho trainwreck of a thread to post this.

14th of November Muz said this.

munrubenmuz wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
I wonder if mcjules still thinks its ok for a few rogue imams to go around preaching hate in the community?
...oh but he will shoot down my argument and think I'm shadowboxing because its not a valid point of reason.

:-" :-" :-"


Why don't you just come out and say you hate muslims instead of dancing around the subject.

You obviously do. It's ok, it's just an opinion, say you hate them and move on.



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paladisious wrote:
Iridium1010 wrote:
quickflick wrote:


The biggest sufferers at the hands of the Islamic State are Muslims.



What are you basing that on? If By civilians killed/taken captive/forced to leave thats not true at all.

IS killed 5000+ yezidis in Iraq with the help of their muslim neighbours.


Isn't the death toll in Syria at least 250k now? That's the total death toll, and not just the ones killed by ISIS, but still, that's a lot.


Yes, but most of that is because of the fighting between the govt and the "Rebels".



There is one which shows how many civilians have been killed by which forces but I can't find it, in any case civilians killed by IS is quite low compared to the Govt and Rebels.




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Late to thread so don't know if it has been brought up but weren't the 12000 all meant to be Christians?
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