Yep. 100% although you'll rarely seen that stated in the media. It's a better narrative to say it affects all women equally when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.

There would be a correlation. Still women from more privileged classes are victims of domestic violence.

The big, rich households always have their problems, too. Nothing is ever as perfect as it seems. That I can assure you of.

I will lol if collingwood lose tonight

Toughlove

Did I ever say that there doesn't tend to be greater incidence of domestic violence in lower socio-economic demographics?

I just pointed out that you also find rich women who are victims of domestic violence. And that things aren't always as they seem with rich, happy families.

No you didn't but as is usual with discussions of this nature you were quick to say 'yes but......'

It's the same thing time and time again when controversial opinions are put forward.

Same as those Africans committing those carjackings. 'Yes there are Africans involved but we would do well to remember blah blah..other communities etc etc.'.

Yes but... tends to reflect reality, my friend.

The nuances reflect the reality of the situation for all people.

'Yes but'.... distorts the discussion and ultimately hinders a solution.

I'll give you a 'yes but' you'll immediately disagree with.

'Australians are racist'

'Yes but no where near as other country XYZ'.

Well righto, OK then, carry on.

As if one negates the other and invalidates it. It doesn't and it shouldn't.




Edited by toughlove: 24/6/2016 07:33:04 PM

Take it easy.

Imagine you're a women, whose husband is a CEO and is respected all around the community. He also beats the shit out of you. If your rhetoric takes hold too greatly, the unwashed masses will simply believe this is implausible. Fat lot of good that does.

I'm pointing out this domestic violence can and does occur anywhere. Admittedly, it's more prevalent in some quarters than others. Sure specific measures need to be taken to address where this is prevalent in specific communities. I'm not suggesting otherwise. I'm pointing out there are too many generalisations in what you say. Generalisations which are all too prevalent and see various groups suffer.

We're talking about domestic violence not racism. FWIW, I agree with you that Australia has huge problems to do with racism that are not to be taken lightly by virtue of a greater proportion of people from, say, Austria being even more racist (if that's even the case).

Wouldn't be too shocked

And I never said domestic violence doesn't affect every strata of society.

I'll give you another example.

The chances of catching AIDS from heterosexual sex are almost non-existent BUT that's not how prevention campaigns run.

'It's a disease that can strike down anybody at anytime.'

Except it's not.

And while it's wonderful and everyone feels warm and fuzzy because they've 'hit all their metrics' the people who are at the highest risk aren't being targeted specifically. And that has consequences too.

And, I am taking it easy. Watching a doco on Socrates.

Kicked 3 and was best on in a losing team today. Ones call up not far away :)

Poor attendances for traditional powerhouses in Collingwood & Richmond.
Understandable with all things considered but it just goes to show things aren't all rosy in AFL mainland.

A number of varying records for low attendances this year, not sure what the overall figures are though. Rohan connelly has a piece in today's The Age about the issue.

Also interesting to see despite the NRL's poor attendances they beat the AFL in TV ratings on the weekend. Interesting to see that State of origin game rated higher than last year's AFL grand final (which was beaten last year by two of the state of origin games and NRL grand final last year as well)

Rival codes concerned as AFL erects free goalposts in 100 schools in NSW

DEAN RITCHIE, The Daily Telegraph
June 28, 2016 11:35am

THE AFL is taunting rival footy codes by erecting free goalposts in a staggering 100 schools throughout Sydney and regional NSW.

It has left the NRL, ARU and FFA deeply concerned.

With cash, ambition and resources, the AFL continues to push deep into the rugby league and rugby union heartlands. Parents have noticed the AFL posts popping up around NSW.

The Daily Telegraph can today reveal that an AFL program has funded posts being erected in no less than 100 private, primary and states schools.

It is understood about 50 sets of posts have been constructed in Sydney schools, the other 50 in rural areas that stretch between Albury to Broken Hill and Coffs Harbour.

A set of posts has even been built at Epping Boys High, a famous rugby union school in Sydney’s northwest.


GWS players visit Emu Heights Primary School to unveil new goalposts.
AFL officials have established posts at 20 schools a year for the past five years. With fewer resources and money, the NRL, FFA and ARU cannot compete.

Thankfully for those three sporting codes, existing league, union and soccer posts around NSW playing fields still dwarf the number or AFL posts — but the AFL is having a fair crack.


The Daily Telegraph also understands AFL officials approached councils in Western Sydney offering free goalposts at suburban fields. Aware it was a free service, councils generally accepted the offer.

“In response to growing demand for our game, the AFL has been running a successful goalposts program since 2011,” said AFL NSW-ACT chief executive Sam Graham.

“The aim of the program is to install 20 new sets of goals posts per year, to schools with a strong interest in AFL, throughout metro and regional NSW. We know that having access to goals posts encourages kids to get active, play socially and learn the skills of the game.”


More GWS players visited Cabramatta West Public School last year.
The success of Sydney Swans and GWS Giants has further enhanced the AFL’s product and brand throughout Sydney and NSW.

NRL officials claim to have spent $2 million maintaining and improving rugby league facilities through NSW.

“Over the past three years the NRL and NSW government has contributed over $2 million to improving rugby league facilities across the state,” said an NRL spokesman.

Most of the AFL goalposts have been built in outer suburb schools of Sydney with inner-city schools not boasting the necessary field size or space.

https://www.facebook.com/7NewsAdelaide/videos/1227489647281688/ =d>

https://www.gofundme.com/2ct9kjw :lol:

North Melbourne player takes really gay looking nude selfies of his wang and photos end up in gay porn sites lol ALF

AFL ‘catfish’ cyber porn attack: Channel 7 on outer with player’s club

ALICE COSTER and
SAM LANDSBERGER, Herald Sun
July 14, 2016 11:30am
Subscriber only

A MAJOR rift has opened between an AFL ​club ​and ​the league’s host broadcaster Channel 7 after the network named the ​team ​​whose player ​has been the target of ​a cyberporn attack.

The Herald Sun has been told that some Channel 7 journalists favoured not naming the club or player involved in ​the​ catfish scam, ​where graphic photos of a footballer were ​sent ​to a US pornographic website, but they​ were overruled by their Seven News bosses.

The AFL club’s top brass are “seething” at Channel 7’s decision to ​embarrass ​the team and use pixelated images of the player in its Wednesday night news report.

“The fact the only network and media agency to threaten and carry out with naming the club was the AFL broadcast partner is even worse, ”​ a club insider said.

The Herald Sun broke the cyberporn footballer story this week, but opted to protect the player’s reputation by not identifying him or his club.

Supporters of the young footballer conceded he had been immature and foolish, but that he was also potentially the victim of a crime.

The club’s coach yesterday said the station’s decision was a matter of ethical standards.

“But from my understanding it’s a private, personal and legal matter,” he said.

Hopefully in the next few weeks the North Melbourne hype dies down