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+x+x+xSAT Pay tv ratings A-league Wellington v WSW = 41k Perth v Newcastle = 42 k Melb V v Melb City = 83 k AFL Womens........... Adelaide v GWS Giants = 75 k Western Bulldogs v Fremantle = 118 k AFL womens not going off to the greatest of starts. It beat the melb derby on fox comfortably? Lol How hard was it pumped preseason? How much did msm pump into it and ensure it being a success? For all that and this is the result. Not saying it will fail. Im saying that if the afl are becoming a bit desperate. China now this. Its telling.
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+x+x+x+xSAT Pay tv ratings A-league Wellington v WSW = 41k Perth v Newcastle = 42 k Melb V v Melb City = 83 k AFL Womens........... Adelaide v GWS Giants = 75 k Western Bulldogs v Fremantle = 118 k AFL womens not going off to the greatest of starts. It beat the melb derby on fox comfortably? Lol How hard was it pumped preseason? How much did msm pump into it and ensure it being a success? For all that and this is the result. Not saying it will fail. Im saying that if the afl are becoming a bit desperate. China now this. Its telling. Wasnt it on channel 7 as well? The total figure would have been big.
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+x+x+xAfl womens are also leeching off of some of the biggest and most traditional sporting brands in the country, 20k+ would probably turn up to watch Collingwood v Carlton play a game of cricket for fun. Didn't work for the NSL Worms all is complimentary to the men's game. It's different for football because we are not a complimentary product. No, we are not a complimentary product to the AFL / NRL. We are the furthest thing from it We need to find our market, our niche, and work towards that. The longer we spend trying to mould our game into the AFL / NRL the more damage we are doing in the long run
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The only real comparison we have to worry about is our own performance and in that we have recovered from last years low ratings and we are now 20% up on them at this stage. As well as that we are just under 5% up on the season before at this stage of the season. I don't have figures for the 2 seasons before that where we had Del Piero, Heskey and Ono here but I expect they were our highest seasons but 5 seasons ago, the season before they came, ratings hit a low of averaging 43k and we are 63% up on that. Lets hope the ratings keep improving.
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+x+x+x+x+xSAT Pay tv ratings A-league Wellington v WSW = 41k Perth v Newcastle = 42 k Melb V v Melb City = 83 k AFL Womens........... Adelaide v GWS Giants = 75 k Western Bulldogs v Fremantle = 118 k AFL womens not going off to the greatest of starts. It beat the melb derby on fox comfortably? Lol How hard was it pumped preseason? How much did msm pump into it and ensure it being a success? For all that and this is the result. Not saying it will fail. Im saying that if the afl are becoming a bit desperate. China now this. Its telling. Wasnt it on channel 7 as well? The total figure would have been big. 600k on 7 nationally last night.
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Lets get facts right AFLW huge in Melbourne, Perth & Adelaide, nothing in Sydney. How surprising.
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+xLets get facts right AFLW huge in Melbourne, Perth & Adelaide, nothing in Sydney. How surprising. Harsh judge! Friday night two Melbourne women teams got more on 7 mate in Sydney and Brisbane than Sydney FC and Brisbane Roar got nationally on SBS 2
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+x+x+x+xAfl womens are also leeching off of some of the biggest and most traditional sporting brands in the country, 20k+ would probably turn up to watch Collingwood v Carlton play a game of cricket for fun. Didn't work for the NSL Worms all is complimentary to the men's game. It's different for football because we are not a complimentary product. No, we are not a complimentary product to the AFL / NRL. We are the furthest thing from it We need to find our market, our niche, and work towards that. The longer we spend trying to mould our game into the AFL / NRL the more damage we are doing in the long run Sorry, I agree. That was my point. Auto correct stuffed up my post. Women's Afl turned into "worms all" lol. I was just saying women's Alf is complimentary at the men's Alf game. Funny how it looks now
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+x+xIt rated well in the only location anyone gives a shit about afl. More proof it is a game meaningful to Victorians only (SA and wa aside with their small populations) Hmmm, but then apparently more people watched it on 7 mate in Sydney and Brisbane than watched the pseudo state of origin game on SBS nationally No only 53k watched from bri and sydney. Which is less than the 79k for aleague. Despite it being on fta with tonnes and i mean tonnes of media space.
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lol @ comparing SBS VICELAND to Channel 7. Do fuck off Mister Football please.
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+x+x+xIt rated well in the only location anyone gives a shit about afl. More proof it is a game meaningful to Victorians only (SA and wa aside with their small populations) Hmmm, but then apparently more people watched it on 7 mate in Sydney and Brisbane than watched the pseudo state of origin game on SBS nationally No only 53k watched from bri and sydney. Which is less than the 79k for aleague. Despite it being on fta with tonnes and i mean tonnes of media space. Are we talking about Friday night? In fact 53k watched from Sydney and Brisbane on 7Mate, while 52k watched nationally on SBS2, so it is correct that the FTA figures for Sydney/Brisbane for the AFL Women's did outnumber the national A-League ratings on FTA. The Fox ratings were 123k vs 79k. As bluebird points out, we shouldn't be surprised by any of this, it is what it is. The only point worth making is that the AFL is receiving zero dollars for the AFL Women's. If Ten misses out on the BBL, as is likely, would they want to spend $4 mill on the A-League or $5 mill on the AFL Women's?
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+xlol @ comparing SBS VICELAND to Channel 7. Do fuck off Mister Football please. He's comparing SBS2 to 7Mate, in Sydney, Brisbane and Perth, the AFL Women's is shown on 7Mate.
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+x+xlol @ comparing SBS VICELAND to Channel 7. Do fuck off Mister Football please. He's comparing SBS2 to 7Mate, in Sydney, Brisbane and Perth, the AFL Women's is shown on 7Mate. Still, apples and oranges.
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just don't understand why we can't be happy women's sport had a good weekend instead of compare us with them. They're two completely different leagues with completely different amounts of marketing.
We've recovered from a bad 15-16. They've started well.
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+x+x+x+xIt rated well in the only location anyone gives a shit about afl. More proof it is a game meaningful to Victorians only (SA and wa aside with their small populations) Hmmm, but then apparently more people watched it on 7 mate in Sydney and Brisbane than watched the pseudo state of origin game on SBS nationally No only 53k watched from bri and sydney. Which is less than the 79k for aleague. Despite it being on fta with tonnes and i mean tonnes of media space. Are we talking about Friday night? In fact 53k watched from Sydney and Brisbane on 7Mate, while 52k watched nationally on SBS2, so it is correct that the FTA figures for Sydney/Brisbane for the AFL Women's did outnumber the national A-League ratings on FTA. The Fox ratings were 123k vs 79k. As bluebird points out, we shouldn't be surprised by any of this, it is what it is. The only point worth making is that the AFL is receiving zero dollars for the AFL Women's. If Ten misses out on the BBL, as is likely, would they want to spend $4 mill on the A-League or $5 mill on the AFL Women's? That what i am starting to fear. The other codes know all they need to do is provide a substandard substitute product to interfere with our numbers enough to hurt us. Business make these decisions all the time. A good example is a "loss-leader product". I am not talking about Sport being a "loss" product in general for Broadcasters, I mean the AFL will be willing to almost give Ten the WAFL rights if it means Ten will not bid for the A-league. They don't need to make money, they just need to be sure Football does not make enough either The main problem stems from Leadership though, FFA want football to be a big product, rather than worry about making it the best football league possible (not comparing to the other codes, just in general)
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People are really getting way ahead of themselves with women's afl, it's a novelty, it will never sustain great interest, despite the afl's hubris having them believe they have reinvented the wheel. Women don't watch women's sport in great numbers, that's why it doesn't make money.
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Regardless of all the sporting interference,I am sure any FTA station would welcome the opportunity to show derby games.End of story.
AFL womens,Nrl 10's,Rugby,7's ,Lawn Bowl 2's,Netball,Softball,Baseball,Tiddly Winks,I have no interest in.Comparisons are meaningless.
FFA are doing the game a disservice by focusing on comparisons rather than the game itself.
All that matters to me is what Football is doing and the plan to grow the game .If we are going backwards then FFA should get the boot.
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Hope this works its a summary from round 1 to round 15 ... it shows including the link to TV ratings, what was required to get into the top 20, top 12 and top 10 ratings on these nights. It also shows in this time we had 12 games over 100 K i.e average 115K, 6 games over 90 and 9 games over 80K... The expected uplift factor from FTA to Fox is 3.75 times... so almost every night of the first 15 rounds would make the top ten shows.. Hope these charts work.. | Saturday Night TV ratings taken from TVTonight | | Date | Top 20 | Top 12 | Top 10 | Web Links | | 14/01/2017 | 245,000 | 319,000 | 337,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2017/01/saturday-14-january-2017.html | | 7/01/2017 | 262,000 | 342,000 | 375,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2017/01/saturday-7-january-2017.html | | 31/12/2016 | 243,000 | 378,000 | 410,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2017/01/saturday-31-december-2016.html | | 24/12/2016 | 219,000 | 291,000 | 337,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2016/12/saturday-24-december-2016.html | | 17/12/2016 | 218,000 | 356,000 | 443,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2016/12/saturday-17-december-2016.html | | 10/12/2016 | 202,000 | 284,000 | 357,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2016/12/saturday-10-december-2016.html | | 3/12/2016 | 199,000 | 235,000 | 255,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2016/12/saturday-3-december-2016.html | | 26/11/2016 | 214,000 | 307,000 | 386,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2016/11/saturday-26-november-2016.html | | 19/11/2016 | 210,000 | 253,000 | 282,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2016/11/saturday-19-november-2016.html | | 12/11/2016 | 228,000 | 385,000 | 442,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2016/11/saturday-12-november-2016.html | | 5/11/2016 | 232,000 | 390,000 | 402,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2016/11/saturday-5-november-2016.html | | 29/10/2016 | 221,000 | 316,000 | 341,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2016/10/saturday-29-october-2016.html | | 22/10/2016 | 252,000 | 368,000 | 401,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2016/10/saturday-22-october-2016.html | | 15/10/2016 | 239,000 | 306,000 | 358,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2016/10/saturday-15-october-2016.html | | 8/10/2016 | 279,000 | 340,000 | 380,000 | http://tvtonight.com.au/2016/10/saturday-8-october-2016.html | | | | | | | | | | | | average | 230,867 | 324,667 | 367,067 | | | high | 279,000 | 390,000 | 443,000 | | | low | 199,000 | 235,000 | 255,000 | | | | | | | | Taken from the wookie site | http://www.footyindustry.com/?p=3222 | | After 15 rounds | Number | Average | Uplift 3.75 | Across 15 rounds | | 80 to 89 | 9 | 84,000 | 315,000 | Always top 20, 7 times top 12, 2 top 10 | | 90 to 99 | 6 | 92,666.67 | 347,500 | Always top 20, 11 times top 12, 6 times top 10 | | over 100k | 12 | 115,083 | 431,563 | Always top 20, always top 12, 13 times top 10 |
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The above post is using SBS as the FTA provider the assumption is 10 would increase the Fox ratings.
If 10 increase the Fox ratings by say 10% then
89 to 90 becomes 346 K average
90 to 100 K becomes 382 K
over 100 K becomes 475 K which means most Saturday nights nights close to a top 5 position...
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+xThe above post is using SBS as the FTA provider the assumption is 10 would increase the Fox ratings. If 10 increase the Fox ratings by say 10% then 89 to 90 becomes 346 K average 90 to 100 K becomes 382 K over 100 K becomes 475 K which means most Saturday nights nights close to a top 5 position... Seriously, where is this 3.75 coming from? My bet is that it is calculated from AFL / NRL numbers from a decade ago. AFL finals don't even get that ratio anymore. And you need to remember that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around the HAL has been exclusive on the Foxtel for most of its 12 years - apart from the last 4 on SBS, Even the Socceroos got less than 1.5 FTA ratio for the game against Japan. People who watch Australian soccer have disproportionately got Foxtel
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+x+xThe above post is using SBS as the FTA provider the assumption is 10 would increase the Fox ratings. If 10 increase the Fox ratings by say 10% then 89 to 90 becomes 346 K average 90 to 100 K becomes 382 K over 100 K becomes 475 K which means most Saturday nights nights close to a top 5 position... Seriously, where is this 3.75 coming from? My bet is that it is calculated from AFL / NRL numbers from a decade ago. AFL finals don't even get that ratio anymore. And you need to remember that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around the HAL has been exclusive on the Foxtel for most of its 12 years - apart from the last 4 on SBS, Even the Socceroos got less than 1.5 FTA ratio for the game against Japan. People who watch Australian soccer have disproportionately got Foxtel Thats true actually. I don't know many HAL fans who don't have Foxtel. Those guys won't ditch Fox just because there's one FTA suddenly on telly. As usual, Midfielders logic is clear as mud.
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AFD
You may be right ...
I have taken these from the Wookie's site and before you reply I have also seen where Fox outrates the FTA...
But on big games...
Two random AFL games FTA 775 Fox 228 & FTA 358 Fox 103
Two random NRL games FTA 947 Fox 185 & FTA 406 Fox 199 .
Its very difficult to get an uplift factor for marquee games which most of these games will be ... remember the uplift from SBS to 10 .. I said 10% only ... it will more than likely be a lot more .. so maybe one up a little and one down a little in another ...
Suggest you go back to the AFL and tell us how good the girls rated ... or how great the AFL is ... tell us about your crowds... tell us about your media deals, tell us about your ratings... tell us everything in Australia revolves around the AFL...
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+x+xLets get facts right AFLW huge in Melbourne, Perth & Adelaide, nothing in Sydney. How surprising. Harsh judge! Friday night two Melbourne women teams got more on 7 mate in Sydney and Brisbane than Sydney FC and Brisbane Roar got nationally on SBS 2 There are a lot of AFL people out there with nothing to watch, hence AFLW got some interested,but.... You have to understand the AFL has the AFL that is it, crying out for something else, if this AFLW provides that great. In football the A-League is only part of a much greater thing. WCs for both men & women, youth WCs, Olympics, continental cups, like the recently completed African cup. Then we have the O/S leagues like the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A amongst a whole host of O/S competitions. Then you have the Int'l club competitions like the champions league, Europa league & it's Sth American, Asian, African & nth American equivalents. You also have the A-League & other Asian leagues. Women's leagues. The football competition in this country has only really been fully professional for 11 years & there has been a women's competition for 8 of it. The AFL or it's equivalent has been around for 140 years & only this year introduced a women's competition despite being far richer then the FFA.
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+x+x+xThe above post is using SBS as the FTA provider the assumption is 10 would increase the Fox ratings. If 10 increase the Fox ratings by say 10% then 89 to 90 becomes 346 K average 90 to 100 K becomes 382 K over 100 K becomes 475 K which means most Saturday nights nights close to a top 5 position... Seriously, where is this 3.75 coming from? My bet is that it is calculated from AFL / NRL numbers from a decade ago. AFL finals don't even get that ratio anymore. And you need to remember that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around the HAL has been exclusive on the Foxtel for most of its 12 years - apart from the last 4 on SBS, Even the Socceroos got less than 1.5 FTA ratio for the game against Japan. People who watch Australian soccer have disproportionately got Foxtel Thats true actually. I don't know many HAL fans who don't have Foxtel. Those guys won't ditch Fox just because there's one FTA suddenly on telly. As usual, Midfielders logic is clear as mud. I know its hard to understand.... let me explain.. Across 15 rounds we had 9 games that rated over 100K, 6 games rated over 90K and 9 games rated over 80K on Fox... Do you need this bit explained or is it clear. There is what is called an uplift factor when FTA are compared to Fox. This normally results in the FTA station having more viewers than Fox. Do you need this bit explained. Different types of games across all codes get different uplift factors... lots of reasons i.e the teams involved, the importance of the match, is it live, what time it is on. Do you need this explained. The media industry say that a FTA commercial especially their primary rates higher than the SBS secondary channel. Do you need this explained. The chart posted showed on Saturday night for round 1 to 15 complete with link the ratings on those nights and said waht was needed for the top 20, top 12 and top 10 Do you need this explained. This is quite hard if you take the average of the 80K 9 games and the average of the 90K 6 games and the 12 100K games ... Do you understand how to get these averages. Takes these averages and increase them by the ESTIMATED uplift factor for main games and it will tell you roughly were you will rate. Do you need this explained.
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+x+x+x+xThe above post is using SBS as the FTA provider the assumption is 10 would increase the Fox ratings. If 10 increase the Fox ratings by say 10% then 89 to 90 becomes 346 K average 90 to 100 K becomes 382 K over 100 K becomes 475 K which means most Saturday nights nights close to a top 5 position... Seriously, where is this 3.75 coming from? My bet is that it is calculated from AFL / NRL numbers from a decade ago. AFL finals don't even get that ratio anymore. And you need to remember that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around the HAL has been exclusive on the Foxtel for most of its 12 years - apart from the last 4 on SBS, Even the Socceroos got less than 1.5 FTA ratio for the game against Japan. People who watch Australian soccer have disproportionately got Foxtel Thats true actually. I don't know many HAL fans who don't have Foxtel. Those guys won't ditch Fox just because there's one FTA suddenly on telly. As usual, Midfielders logic is clear as mud. I know its hard to understand.... let me explain.. Across 15 rounds we had 9 games that rated over 100K, 6 games rated over 90K and 9 games rated over 80K on Fox... Do you need this bit explained or is it clear. There is what is called an uplift factor when FTA are compared to Fox. This normally results in the FTA station having more viewers than Fox. Do you need this bit explained. Different types of games across all codes get different uplift factors... lots of reasons i.e the teams involved, the importance of the match, is it live, what time it is on. Do you need this explained. The media industry say that a FTA commercial especially their primary rates higher than the SBS secondary channel. Do you need this explained. The chart posted showed on Saturday night for round 1 to 15 complete with link the ratings on those nights and said waht was needed for the top 20, top 12 and top 10 Do you need this explained. This is quite hard if you take the average of the 80K 9 games and the average of the 90K 6 games and the 12 100K games ... Do you understand how to get these averages. Takes these averages and increase them by the ESTIMATED uplift factor for main games and it will tell you roughly were you will rate. Do you need this explained. No, your logic is still clear as mud. Youre assuming that the uplift from Fox-->FTA will be the same for the HAL as it is for the AFL/NRL. That is speculative shite and it ignores AFD's point that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around I remember when you told everyone to google "a league" and see how many clicks it had received compared to other codes. You suggested it was proof of how popular the A-League really is. It remains one of the dumbest things I have ever read on the internet.
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+x+x+x+x+xThe above post is using SBS as the FTA provider the assumption is 10 would increase the Fox ratings. If 10 increase the Fox ratings by say 10% then 89 to 90 becomes 346 K average 90 to 100 K becomes 382 K over 100 K becomes 475 K which means most Saturday nights nights close to a top 5 position... Seriously, where is this 3.75 coming from? My bet is that it is calculated from AFL / NRL numbers from a decade ago. AFL finals don't even get that ratio anymore. And you need to remember that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around the HAL has been exclusive on the Foxtel for most of its 12 years - apart from the last 4 on SBS, Even the Socceroos got less than 1.5 FTA ratio for the game against Japan. People who watch Australian soccer have disproportionately got Foxtel Thats true actually. I don't know many HAL fans who don't have Foxtel. Those guys won't ditch Fox just because there's one FTA suddenly on telly. As usual, Midfielders logic is clear as mud. I know its hard to understand.... let me explain.. Across 15 rounds we had 9 games that rated over 100K, 6 games rated over 90K and 9 games rated over 80K on Fox... Do you need this bit explained or is it clear. There is what is called an uplift factor when FTA are compared to Fox. This normally results in the FTA station having more viewers than Fox. Do you need this bit explained. Different types of games across all codes get different uplift factors... lots of reasons i.e the teams involved, the importance of the match, is it live, what time it is on. Do you need this explained. The media industry say that a FTA commercial especially their primary rates higher than the SBS secondary channel. Do you need this explained. The chart posted showed on Saturday night for round 1 to 15 complete with link the ratings on those nights and said waht was needed for the top 20, top 12 and top 10 Do you need this explained. This is quite hard if you take the average of the 80K 9 games and the average of the 90K 6 games and the 12 100K games ... Do you understand how to get these averages. Takes these averages and increase them by the ESTIMATED uplift factor for main games and it will tell you roughly were you will rate. Do you need this explained. No, your logic is still clear as mud. Youre assuming that the uplift from Fox-->FTA will be the same for the HAL as it is for the AFL/NRL. That is speculative shite and it ignores AFD's point that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around I remember when you told everyone to google "a league" and see how many clicks it had received compared to other codes. You suggested it was proof of how popular the A-League really is. It remains one of the dumbest things I have ever read on the internet. Good for you ... you still can't understand it yet you make an argument against the logic... Let me see my guess an AFL fan .... But if not let me explain... marquee games across all codes even say cricket Aust V Eng rate higher than other games say in cricket Aust V NZ .. FFA will have the marquee games and these generally have a higher % watch FTA as a ratio to Fox... Next Comparing Ch 10 primary channel ... ie 10 to an SBS secondary channel is beyond foolish ... the uplift just by being on 10 will be something I said 10% almost everyone else rates this figure many times times.. But the core to make the top 20 places on Saturday night from round 1 to round 15 ... i.e 15 nights needs an average of 231 K ... 6 We rated on Fox during the same time 12 games over 100 with these games averaging 115.5 K, 6 games above 90 k with an average for this 6 of 94k, and 9 games of over 80k with an average of 83 for these games... I think Football on these figures will make the top 20 shows every Saturday night as we have 12 + 6 + 9 games or 27 games over the first 15 rounds when uplift factors are applied will rate above 231 k
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+x+x+x+x+xThe above post is using SBS as the FTA provider the assumption is 10 would increase the Fox ratings. If 10 increase the Fox ratings by say 10% then 89 to 90 becomes 346 K average 90 to 100 K becomes 382 K over 100 K becomes 475 K which means most Saturday nights nights close to a top 5 position... Seriously, where is this 3.75 coming from? My bet is that it is calculated from AFL / NRL numbers from a decade ago. AFL finals don't even get that ratio anymore. And you need to remember that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around the HAL has been exclusive on the Foxtel for most of its 12 years - apart from the last 4 on SBS, Even the Socceroos got less than 1.5 FTA ratio for the game against Japan. People who watch Australian soccer have disproportionately got Foxtel Thats true actually. I don't know many HAL fans who don't have Foxtel. Those guys won't ditch Fox just because there's one FTA suddenly on telly. As usual, Midfielders logic is clear as mud. I know its hard to understand.... let me explain.. Across 15 rounds we had 9 games that rated over 100K, 6 games rated over 90K and 9 games rated over 80K on Fox... Do you need this bit explained or is it clear. There is what is called an uplift factor when FTA are compared to Fox. This normally results in the FTA station having more viewers than Fox. Do you need this bit explained. Different types of games across all codes get different uplift factors... lots of reasons i.e the teams involved, the importance of the match, is it live, what time it is on. Do you need this explained. The media industry say that a FTA commercial especially their primary rates higher than the SBS secondary channel. Do you need this explained. The chart posted showed on Saturday night for round 1 to 15 complete with link the ratings on those nights and said waht was needed for the top 20, top 12 and top 10 Do you need this explained. This is quite hard if you take the average of the 80K 9 games and the average of the 90K 6 games and the 12 100K games ... Do you understand how to get these averages. Takes these averages and increase them by the ESTIMATED uplift factor for main games and it will tell you roughly were you will rate. Do you need this explained. No, your logic is still clear as mud. Youre assuming that the uplift from Fox-->FTA will be the same for the HAL as it is for the AFL/NRL. That is speculative shite and it ignores AFD's point that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around I remember when you told everyone to google "a league" and see how many clicks it had received compared to other codes. You suggested it was proof of how popular the A-League really is. It remains one of the dumbest things I have ever read on the internet. Well that is very amusing
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+x+x+x+x+x+xThe above post is using SBS as the FTA provider the assumption is 10 would increase the Fox ratings. If 10 increase the Fox ratings by say 10% then 89 to 90 becomes 346 K average 90 to 100 K becomes 382 K over 100 K becomes 475 K which means most Saturday nights nights close to a top 5 position... Seriously, where is this 3.75 coming from? My bet is that it is calculated from AFL / NRL numbers from a decade ago. AFL finals don't even get that ratio anymore. And you need to remember that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around the HAL has been exclusive on the Foxtel for most of its 12 years - apart from the last 4 on SBS, Even the Socceroos got less than 1.5 FTA ratio for the game against Japan. People who watch Australian soccer have disproportionately got Foxtel Thats true actually. I don't know many HAL fans who don't have Foxtel. Those guys won't ditch Fox just because there's one FTA suddenly on telly. As usual, Midfielders logic is clear as mud. I know its hard to understand.... let me explain.. Across 15 rounds we had 9 games that rated over 100K, 6 games rated over 90K and 9 games rated over 80K on Fox... Do you need this bit explained or is it clear. There is what is called an uplift factor when FTA are compared to Fox. This normally results in the FTA station having more viewers than Fox. Do you need this bit explained. Different types of games across all codes get different uplift factors... lots of reasons i.e the teams involved, the importance of the match, is it live, what time it is on. Do you need this explained. The media industry say that a FTA commercial especially their primary rates higher than the SBS secondary channel. Do you need this explained. The chart posted showed on Saturday night for round 1 to 15 complete with link the ratings on those nights and said waht was needed for the top 20, top 12 and top 10 Do you need this explained. This is quite hard if you take the average of the 80K 9 games and the average of the 90K 6 games and the 12 100K games ... Do you understand how to get these averages. Takes these averages and increase them by the ESTIMATED uplift factor for main games and it will tell you roughly were you will rate. Do you need this explained. No, your logic is still clear as mud. Youre assuming that the uplift from Fox-->FTA will be the same for the HAL as it is for the AFL/NRL. That is speculative shite and it ignores AFD's point that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around I remember when you told everyone to google "a league" and see how many clicks it had received compared to other codes. You suggested it was proof of how popular the A-League really is. It remains one of the dumbest things I have ever read on the internet. Well that is very amusing 11 years of A League, 8 years of W-League 140 years of AFL 1 year of AFLW. Haha.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xThe above post is using SBS as the FTA provider the assumption is 10 would increase the Fox ratings. If 10 increase the Fox ratings by say 10% then 89 to 90 becomes 346 K average 90 to 100 K becomes 382 K over 100 K becomes 475 K which means most Saturday nights nights close to a top 5 position... Seriously, where is this 3.75 coming from? My bet is that it is calculated from AFL / NRL numbers from a decade ago. AFL finals don't even get that ratio anymore. And you need to remember that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around the HAL has been exclusive on the Foxtel for most of its 12 years - apart from the last 4 on SBS, Even the Socceroos got less than 1.5 FTA ratio for the game against Japan. People who watch Australian soccer have disproportionately got Foxtel Thats true actually. I don't know many HAL fans who don't have Foxtel. Those guys won't ditch Fox just because there's one FTA suddenly on telly. As usual, Midfielders logic is clear as mud. I know its hard to understand.... let me explain.. Across 15 rounds we had 9 games that rated over 100K, 6 games rated over 90K and 9 games rated over 80K on Fox... Do you need this bit explained or is it clear. There is what is called an uplift factor when FTA are compared to Fox. This normally results in the FTA station having more viewers than Fox. Do you need this bit explained. Different types of games across all codes get different uplift factors... lots of reasons i.e the teams involved, the importance of the match, is it live, what time it is on. Do you need this explained. The media industry say that a FTA commercial especially their primary rates higher than the SBS secondary channel. Do you need this explained. The chart posted showed on Saturday night for round 1 to 15 complete with link the ratings on those nights and said waht was needed for the top 20, top 12 and top 10 Do you need this explained. This is quite hard if you take the average of the 80K 9 games and the average of the 90K 6 games and the 12 100K games ... Do you understand how to get these averages. Takes these averages and increase them by the ESTIMATED uplift factor for main games and it will tell you roughly were you will rate. Do you need this explained. No, your logic is still clear as mud. Youre assuming that the uplift from Fox-->FTA will be the same for the HAL as it is for the AFL/NRL. That is speculative shite and it ignores AFD's point that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around I remember when you told everyone to google "a league" and see how many clicks it had received compared to other codes. You suggested it was proof of how popular the A-League really is. It remains one of the dumbest things I have ever read on the internet. Well that is very amusing AFD Interesting you keep such details ... sounds the action of a Troll ... maybe not ... and yes it is still a measure ,,,, But please tell me AFL ratings, for the girls and the boys, and then tell about their crowds, and then about their media deal, and then about how much media they get, and then about their stadiums....then tell me about how thousands of years ago the game was played somewhere ... all good stuff... Then tell me how Football is failing and how it will never be anything other than a small sport in Australia... Then tell me 10 will rate about the same as SBS 2.... I happen to think not, I also happen to think we are the smell of an oily rag away from some decent growth...
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+x+x+x+x+x+xThe above post is using SBS as the FTA provider the assumption is 10 would increase the Fox ratings. If 10 increase the Fox ratings by say 10% then 89 to 90 becomes 346 K average 90 to 100 K becomes 382 K over 100 K becomes 475 K which means most Saturday nights nights close to a top 5 position... Seriously, where is this 3.75 coming from? My bet is that it is calculated from AFL / NRL numbers from a decade ago. AFL finals don't even get that ratio anymore. And you need to remember that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around the HAL has been exclusive on the Foxtel for most of its 12 years - apart from the last 4 on SBS, Even the Socceroos got less than 1.5 FTA ratio for the game against Japan. People who watch Australian soccer have disproportionately got Foxtel Thats true actually. I don't know many HAL fans who don't have Foxtel. Those guys won't ditch Fox just because there's one FTA suddenly on telly. As usual, Midfielders logic is clear as mud. I know its hard to understand.... let me explain.. Across 15 rounds we had 9 games that rated over 100K, 6 games rated over 90K and 9 games rated over 80K on Fox... Do you need this bit explained or is it clear. There is what is called an uplift factor when FTA are compared to Fox. This normally results in the FTA station having more viewers than Fox. Do you need this bit explained. Different types of games across all codes get different uplift factors... lots of reasons i.e the teams involved, the importance of the match, is it live, what time it is on. Do you need this explained. The media industry say that a FTA commercial especially their primary rates higher than the SBS secondary channel. Do you need this explained. The chart posted showed on Saturday night for round 1 to 15 complete with link the ratings on those nights and said waht was needed for the top 20, top 12 and top 10 Do you need this explained. This is quite hard if you take the average of the 80K 9 games and the average of the 90K 6 games and the 12 100K games ... Do you understand how to get these averages. Takes these averages and increase them by the ESTIMATED uplift factor for main games and it will tell you roughly were you will rate. Do you need this explained. No, your logic is still clear as mud. Youre assuming that the uplift from Fox-->FTA will be the same for the HAL as it is for the AFL/NRL. That is speculative shite and it ignores AFD's point that the AFL and NRL are FTA codes that have slowly increased their STV, not the other way around I remember when you told everyone to google "a league" and see how many clicks it had received compared to other codes. You suggested it was proof of how popular the A-League really is. It remains one of the dumbest things I have ever read on the internet. Good for you ... you still can't understand it yet you make an argument against the logic... Let me see my guess an AFL fan .... But if not let me explain... marquee games across all codes even say cricket Aust V Eng rate higher than other games say in cricket Aust V NZ .. FFA will have the marquee games and these generally have a higher % watch FTA as a ratio to Fox... Next Comparing Ch 10 primary channel ... ie 10 to an SBS secondary channel is beyond foolish ... the uplift just by being on 10 will be something I said 10% almost everyone else rates this figure many times times.. But the core to make the top 20 places on Saturday night from round 1 to round 15 ... i.e 15 nights needs an average of 231 K ... 6 We rated on Fox during the same time 12 games over 100 with these games averaging 115.5 K, 6 games above 90 k with an average for this 6 of 94k, and 9 games of over 80k with an average of 83 for these games... I think Football on these figures will make the top 20 shows every Saturday night as we have 12 + 6 + 9 games or 27 games over the first 15 rounds when uplift factors are applied will rate above 231 k Ok, so I still don't get your logic either. You seem to be assuming some "uplift" even though we know for a fact that the current Friday night SBS ratings are generally lower than Foxtel...and then you are inflating these bunyip ratings by another 10% because commercial? There have been a stack of games between melbourne / sydney / brisbane clubs on the Friday night this year and only round one hit 100k on sbs. Also, of those 27 games that rated over 80,000 over half were in the first 4 weeks. Likewise 7 of the 12 100k plus crowds.You can't just take them and spread them smoothly over the season.
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