National second division is kicking off with or without FFA


National second division is kicking off with or without FFA

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Warning: This is a RL video

Concentrate on what the old dear says   "Ive never gone for the Broncos" becuase they killed my club/comp

Even respect to Mal and Gary B for not wanting to play for Broncos


NSWRL and VFL killed other leagues and FFA have sold their way.... along with owning ip.

If Souths or Dolphins tried to get into the NRL would it be such a big deal? No
Same for WAFL and SANFL clubs. 

VFL and NSWRL destroyed the chance for pro rel in their sports. 

This isnt the case for football either. Listen to what people say not call them out because their surname isnt Northern European. That old women is no different from an NSL bitter 



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Adelaide City’s Damian Mori says it’s time for A-League expansion and a national second division

ADELAIDE City coach Damian Mori says it’s time for A-League expansion and a national second division after claiming back-to-back SA NPL premierships at the weekend.

City belted West Adelaide 6-0 to confirm its place in the Australian NPL series for the second consecutive year facing APIA Leichhardt — NSW’s premier — in the quarterfinal of the tournament at home once SA’s top-six series is done.

Mori believes a lack of opportunities for local clubs and players wanting to play at the very highest level is having a direct effect on developing Socceroos for the future.

“We just haven’t got enough teams playing at a top level for the amount of participants,’’ said the former Socceroos striker who scored 29 goals for Australia (second behind all -time leader Tim Cahill).

“The A-League needs more teams and we need a national second division. That will give players opportunities, stepping stones towards the A-League.

“Until we have that, we’re going to see young players starved of being able to play the best football they can.

“If there wasn’t enough teams in the old NSL maybe I wouldn’t have had a chance to get to where I got to.”

City claimed SA’s NPL title with a three-point gap over second-placed MetroStars.

MetroStars and City face off this weekend in the first leg of the finals series with the aggregate winner confirming the first spot in SA’s NPL grand final next month.

Former Adelaide United striker Anthony Costa, 23, scored a hat-trick against West at Adelaide City Park to claim the NPL’s golden boot award with 22 goals in 21 matches.

Mamadi Kamara jagged a brace and Thomas Love also scored to give Mori’s men a chance to play in the club’s 11th SA grand final in the 14 years he has been in charge of City.

But despite Football Federation Australia placing more importance on each state’s NPL premier with a reward in the Australian NPL series like City, Mori claims winning the SA grand final is not a secondary prize.

“The finals series is what we play for to win the championship,’’ Mori said.

“We’re well aware of this before the season starts, so is everybody else and that’s the rules.

“It is what it is.”

City last year lost its Australian NPL quarterfinal to eventual champions Sydney United 5-4 in a classic battle at Sydney’s Edensor Park.
Adelaide City’s Damian Mori says it’s time for A-League expansion and a national second division | Adelaide Now


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How about earning our way to the top. The pathways need to be clear.


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Milos Lujic has runs on the board at South Melbourne but A-League light refuses to shine

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MILOS Lujic is widely regarded as one of the top National Premier League strikers.

After four years at South Melbourne, he sits behind only Paul Trimboli, Vaughan Coveny and Jim Armstrong on the club’s list of all-time league goalscorers

And yet, with where the 27-year-old primary school teacher is in life, playing in the A-League isn’t 100 per cent appealing to him.

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If the right offer came along, sure, Lujic would take the chance.

And he’s had a crack before, with a month on trial at Sydney FC and two weeks as an injury replacement at Wellington.

Neither 2013 stint worked out and so the AIS graduate has gone about compiling a fearsome NPL goalscoring record.

Milos Lujic competes in the air against Edgeworth Eagles. Picture: Getty Images

Lujic said his A-League prospects have gone cold.

And right now, with a family to also think about, that sits fine with the Springvale White Eagles junior considering the minimum A-League wage is about $55,000.

“Let’s face it, there’s not enough money in the A-League to change your life,” Lujic said.

“One contract in Europe definitely could, but on minimum wage in the A-League, in terms of where you are in your life, you’re back to square one — especially if you’re sitting on the bench or in the stands.

“And I’ve seen that happen before. Andy Brennan was with us, went to Newcastle for a year and now he’s back with Bentleigh.

“You’d have to speak to the coaches and find out their plans. You can never be given any guarantees, but you want to know you’re going to be given a chance to prove yourself.

“Obviously the finances would have to be right, I don’t want to be on that minimum contract at this point in my life.

“It’s a bit different for the younger boys, maybe, because it could change their life if it pans out well. And if I was 20-21 again I’d get out there and look all over the world, too.

Milos Lujic heads home a dramatic late winner against Edgeworth. Picture: Getty Images
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“But with where I’m at, it’s not that appealing.”

Lujic, with 15 goals in the league this season, scored the last gasp winner against Edgeworth Eagles in the FFA Cup’s Round of 32 last month.

On Wednesday night South takes on Western Australia’s Sorrento FC at Lakeside Stadium for a spot in the quarter-finals.

And Lujic wants a more routine victory this time around for the sake of his club’s diehard fans.

“Luckily I got my head to one in the last minute, it was a great feeling and a big win for the club,” he said.

“It was definitely up there as one of my biggest goals.

“There’s been a few over the years, but in the context of the match and the club pushing for an A-League spot it was definitely important.”

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Wednesday, August 23 at Lakeside Stadium, 7.30pm

Milos Lujic South Melbourne FFA Cup A-League NPL Sorrento FC | Herald Sun


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There are non-negotiable terms in the NPL as set by FFA.
But you are correct in regards to the issue of investment by Clubs down to State League 3.

I can confirm clubs as low as State 4 are looking at NPL... possibly in partnership with APS private schools...

Football clubs in the State have always had ambitions to move up. Lalor Sloga fell hard in the 90s and have been perennial top league aspirants considering the money they have been rumoured to throw around
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Bit of quiet on the AAFC front. How is our national second tier progressing?


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TheSelectFew - 22 Aug 2017 12:45 PM
Bit of quiet on the AAFC front. How is our national second tier progressing?

Dont think the October date has changed



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scott21 - 22 Aug 2017 5:17 PM
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Dont think the October date has changed



They say getting on with the job. 

Cautiously optimistic. 


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A fortnight after a FIFA delegation visited Sydney, the world governing body has dispatched its first piece of formal feedback to Football Federation Australia. Meanwhile, the push continues for a national second tier competition.
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FIFA has placed the future of Australian football firmly back in Football Federation Australia's court and issued a subtle reminder it is not a stakeholder in the political reform process.

A fortnight after a visiting FIFA/Asian Football Confederation (AFC) delegation witnessed the chaotic, nasty nature of the game's domestic governance, the world governing body has dispatched its first piece of formal feedback to FFA chairman Steven Lowy.

FIFA secretary general Fatma Samoura described this month's heated meetings in Sydney as "productive and fruitful", implying there are no plans at this stage to disband the FFA board before the November 30 deadline it has imposed.

However, Samoura reiterates the "critical time of the process" in which FFA has been ordered to allow more stakeholders a say in how the game is run.

"While FIFA and AFC remain committed to providing you with our continued and full support, the responsibility - as communicated by the joint FIFA/AFC visit in line with the aforementioned decision of the FIFA Member Associations Committee - to reach agreement on a consensual membership model lies with FFA and the stakeholders (Member federations, A-League clubs and PFA)," the letter reads.

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'People want more football'

It's in this context a push for a national second division to operate between the A-League and National Premier Leagues (NPL) takes place.

NPL teams have banded together under the Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC), which is devising a plan for a second tier and, importantly, how it would be funded.

"The modelling we're working on at the moment will allow a second tier competition to be self-funding.

In fact, it'll actually put more back into the game, both into the NPL and into grassroots," says AAFC Chairman Rabieh Krayem.

NPL clubs say with governance of the local game at a crossroads, now is the time to strike.

"People want more football. The number of people watching football, the number of people playing football, both men and women, has increased unbelievably and at a rapid rate," says Sam Krslovic, who is football director at former NSL heavyweights Sydney United.

"I think now is the time because we've got more engagement in the general community."

"A second division is really needed for the development of the game, for developing these young players, giving them game exposure, developing new coaches."

Counting against the AAFC is the fact it's a relative newcomer, having only been formed this year.

Although AAFC representatives did meet with FIFA in Sydney, it's unlikely the association will be given a seat at the table when FFA restructures its influential Congress.

As it stands, it's believed the clubs, the players union and some state federations are in support of a revised Congress model, comprising nine votes for the states, five for the clubs, one for the players, and one for the women's game.

-with AAP

FIFA jumps in as push for national second tier gains momentum | SBS News


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Almost the same amount of people as an average Gosford A-League match

HISTORIC WIN: Massive sporting celebration erupts in Ipswich

Western Pride goal scorer Dylan Wenzel-Halls.
Western Pride goal scorer Dylan Wenzel-Halls.Chris Simpson

AS the classic song "We are the champions'' ignited the elated crowd, Ipswich fans launched into one of the city's  biggest sporting celebrations in history.

Western Pride had just elevated Ipswich to its highest heights since the Jets won the 2015 Queensland Cup rugby league competition.

However, Saturday night's incredible 2-1 victory over Moreton Bay United was something special. It ended a 31 year drought in one of the city's most historically important sports.

Western Pride are the National Premier League champions of Queensland after surviving a dramatic finish at the Briggs Road Sporting Complex.

The last time an Ipswich representative soccer team won a major grand final was when Coalstars beat North Star 2-1 in the 1986 Brisbane Premier League grand final.

Saturday's scoreline was the same, only far more important being on Ipswich soil by a young and exciting team that could one day carry an Ipswich-based side into the A-League national competition.

Western Pride general manager Pat Boyle was briefly speechless with emotion before explaining what the result in front of 3383 fans meant.

"How good is this for Ipswich,'' Boyle said.

"I'm just so glad to be a part of this.

"We knew it's been there for a long time and now they've gone 'Ipswich is here'.

"Ipswich football is here and we want to be counted.''

Newly-elected Mayor Andrew Antoniolli and football fanatic councillor Dave Morrison shared the occasion as Ipswich City Council had played a major role in helping Western Pride secure a state league licence five years ago.

"I promised during the campaign that I'd deliver Western Pride a win,'' Cr Antoniolli grinned.

"It is great for the city because this is equal in many respects to when the Jets won.

"This is one of the most professional NPL clubs in the state, if not the country, so for them to win tonight, it's a reward for their effort.

"And every member of the club, from player right through to administration, volunteers . . . everybody deserves the credit for the victory tonight.''

Cr Morrison has long supported football's development and progress in the city. He was a picture of satisfaction as he mingled with Pride's players, officials, coaches and fans.

Western Pride led tonight's grand final 1-0 at halftime through a superb goal mouth finish by defender Cameron Crestani.

However, Moreton Bay United had the big crowd on the edge of their seats after scoring with just minutes of normal time left.

It was up to Western Pride's goal specialist Dylan Wenzel-Halls to nail the winner with seconds of regular game remaining.

His free kick created scenes of jubilation at the Ipswich venue as fans rushed onto the field.

The celebration continued into the night with players, official, coaches and fans getting their photos taken with the NPL Cup that has a new home in Ipswich.

HISTORIC WIN: Massive sporting celebration erupts in Ipswich | Queensland Times


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Keen for October. 


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I love that the club has finally sorted itself out and is doing well but holy shit is Western Pride a terrible name. For what is the historical home of Football in SEQ, they deserved to at least put some thought in the name.

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TheSelectFew - 3 Sep 2017 9:40 PM
Keen for October. 

With 5 New Zealand clubs interested I'm looking forward to see what happens after October.


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nomates - 3 Sep 2017 11:31 PM
TheSelectFew - 3 Sep 2017 9:40 PM

With 5 New Zealand clubs interested I'm looking forward to see what happens after October.

That's enough to start your own league. But like New Zealand itself, you'd rather sponge off Australia than build your own country.
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bohemia - 4 Sep 2017 12:33 AM
nomates - 3 Sep 2017 11:31 PM

That's enough to start your own league. But like New Zealand itself, you'd rather sponge off Australia than build your own country.

Spot on! Why spend money on the infrastructure needed in NZ, when Australia football does it for you. Just hope these teams get to play in the FFA Cup too!.


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nomates - 4 Sep 2017 3:30 AM
bohemia - 4 Sep 2017 12:33 AM

Spot on! Why spend money on the infrastructure needed in NZ, when Australia football does it for you. Just hope these teams get to play in the FFA Cup too!.

785 members mate.

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785 members mate.

But the season hasn't started yet! so those numbers are justifiable.


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Im excited for NZ to take their own football seriously. I would watch without a shadow of a doubt. 


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I love that the club has finally sorted itself out and is doing well but holy shit is Western Pride a terrible name. For what is the historical home of Football in SEQ, they deserved to at least put some thought in the name.

Why not just Ipswich Football Club?

Western Pride sounds terrible.
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melbourne_terrace - 3 Sep 2017 11:21 PM

Why not just Ipswich Football Club?

Western Pride sounds terrible.

Nothing wrong with that. Sounds tidy. Look I wouldnt even mind Ipswich Pride. But western? West of what? Where is west?


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Nothing wrong with that. Sounds tidy. Look I wouldnt even mind Ipswich Pride. But western? West of what? Where is west?

One of those bloody perth teams
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Nothing wrong with that. Sounds tidy. Look I wouldnt even mind Ipswich Pride. But western? West of what? Where is west?

Ipswich Knights and Ipswich City already existed when Western Pride was created so they probably wanted to differentiate themselves. 

'Western' is supposed to reflect the fact that they are a club to represent the so called Western corridor (i.e. west of Brisbane).


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Ipswich Knights and Ipswich City already existed when Western Pride was created so they probably wanted to differentiate themselves. 

'Western' is supposed to reflect the fact that they are a club to represent the so called Western corridor (i.e. west of Brisbane).

Yep, the same reason Toowoomba's airport is known as Brisbane West.
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is there any progress on this, or was it all just talk?

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@fullback

Last update was they were working on a suitable model and will release details in October.
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FullBack4 - 4 Sep 2017 10:36 PM
is there any progress on this, or was it all just talk?

Ask on Twitter. Very active. 


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What a stupid thread.
Nobody wants a 2nd div - other than a few fans from a dying former NSL team
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Roberts1 - 5 Sep 2017 9:47 AM
What a stupid thread.Nobody wants a 2nd div - other than a few fans from a dying former NSL team

Breaking news: Second division plans canned as FFT poster Roberts claims nobody wants a 2nd div
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Breaking news: Second division plans canned as FFT poster Roberts claims nobody wants a 2nd div

Also Breaking: Roberts1 posts are extremely similar to paulc.


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TheSelectFew - 5 Sep 2017 10:55 AM
azzaMVFC - 5 Sep 2017 10:22 AM

Also Breaking: Roberts1 posts are extremely similar to paulc.

and the Roberts account that got banned,


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