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+x+x+x+x+x@redshirtI emailed AAFC last week and they said they were on track to release info by the end of this month.@thefansI agree on the name b-league. I don't like it at all in reference to an Australian second division.A-LeagueTwo/2/IIOr NPL First Division/Division One OrNational Premier League Australia are my preferences.Pretty sure there is a B-League of some form elsewhere, Bangladesh maybe, so I'm not sure whether it would actually be allowed to be called B-League. I think it's appropriate that Bangladesh keep the name. Agreed. I remember reading somewhere that there were 3 names originally selected and one of them was actually the australian premier league, but nothing with premier league in it appealed to the people they did market research on, ultimately A-League was chosen through market research. The NPL name annoys me, because its not the nations premier league, they A-league is. It should be called something like the State Federation Championship or something like that. The A in A-league also does not stand for Australia, it was selected because its the 'A' or first/top league, I asked this question in a FFA twitter Q&A. Hopefully in 10 years or whenever we get a second division that they go with A2, or A-leaue 2 or 2.A-league or one of those iterations. When the A League name was chosen we weren't part of Asia but its clear it was a strategically chosen name to fall in line with the other Asian leagues. It is generally accepted that the A stands for Australia, regardless of the FFA stance The irony is since then, there has been a real push away from doing anything that conforms to the way Asia does things. No second tier. A NZ team. A salary cap. Not recognising the nation wide cup winner as the Cup winner even though its Asia's wishes for them to feature in the ACL. We don't even have a 3+1 rule We should have just kept the NSL name so we can have AFL, NRL, NSL, and not to be confused with the NFL which is the other franchise we are falling in line with No S word, please.
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The Fans
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+x+x+x+x@redshirtI emailed AAFC last week and they said they were on track to release info by the end of this month.@thefansI agree on the name b-league. I don't like it at all in reference to an Australian second division.A-LeagueTwo/2/IIOr NPL First Division/Division One OrNational Premier League Australia are my preferences.Pretty sure there is a B-League of some form elsewhere, Bangladesh maybe, so I'm not sure whether it would actually be allowed to be called B-League. I think it's appropriate that Bangladesh keep the name. Agreed. I remember reading somewhere that there were 3 names originally selected and one of them was actually the australian premier league, but nothing with premier league in it appealed to the people they did market research on, ultimately A-League was chosen through market research. The NPL name annoys me, because its not the nations premier league, they A-league is. It should be called something like the State Federation Championship or something like that. The A in A-league also does not stand for Australia, it was selected because its the 'A' or first/top league, I asked this question in a FFA twitter Q&A. Hopefully in 10 years or whenever we get a second division that they go with A2, or A-leaue 2 or 2.A-league or one of those iterations. Whoever at the FFA gave you that answer is either a liar or an idiot. A-league was a very popular choice at the time, I thought so then and I still think its a great name. It was 100% very clearly and deliberately A for Australia following in the Asian convention along with j-league, k-league, s league, v league, m league and probably a bunch of others. its not up for debate.
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2nd div will either be sanctioned or not.
Non sanctioned could be called anything. One thing it will not be called is A2.
A sanctioned league would imo be called NPL, then NPL becomes NPL1 or NPL2 etc and so on. Calling it A2 League or B league etc gives the assumption it is connected to AL. It would not be until there is promotion relegation. I cant see FFA scrapping the NPL name. There would be a chance of Australian Premier League. I think they would steer clear of anyhting with championship in it so there is no confusion wiith ALeague Champions (National Championship or Australian Championship and so on).
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bigpoppa
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+x2nd div will either be sanctioned or not. Non sanctioned could be called anything. One thing it will not be called is A2. A sanctioned league would imo be called NPL, then NPL becomes NPL1 or NPL2 etc and so on. Calling it A2 League or B league etc gives the assumption it is connected to AL. It would not be until there is promotion relegation. I cant see FFA scrapping the NPL name. There would be a chance of Australian Premier League. I think they would steer clear of anyhting with championship in it so there is no confusion wiith ALeague Champions (National Championship or Australian Championship and so on). Non-sanctioned and then the A-League clubs break away and link up with the second division.
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+x+x2nd div will either be sanctioned or not. Non sanctioned could be called anything. One thing it will not be called is A2. A sanctioned league would imo be called NPL, then NPL becomes NPL1 or NPL2 etc and so on. Calling it A2 League or B league etc gives the assumption it is connected to AL. It would not be until there is promotion relegation. I cant see FFA scrapping the NPL name. There would be a chance of Australian Premier League. I think they would steer clear of anyhting with championship in it so there is no confusion wiith ALeague Champions (National Championship or Australian Championship and so on). Non-sanctioned and then the A-League clubs break away and link up with the second division. The FAR Q FFA League
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bigpoppa
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The above photo is a screen grab from Facebook. So off the top of my head that is four clubs rebranding for potential second division status APIA - Inner West Sydney SD Raiders - South West Sydney NQ Fury - North Queensland United FNQ Heat - Cairns FC
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If Australian Pensioners Insurance Agency Leichhardt wants to drop APIA from their name then so be it. But Inner West Sydney? Meh. Why not simply Leichhardt FC? The current list looks a bit north of this, west of that, southern this.... doesn't seem to be pitching at the grassroots which this league is all about.
Agreed with the comments above that a second division should be A2 League in keeping with the naming scheme. B League makes as much sense as Japan calling J2League the KLeague.
I remember Australian Premier League was a popular name at the time the new league was mooted. Many actually assumed it would be the name. Saw plenty of "South for APL" banners in SM games. Some also thought ALeague wasn't possible because the NSL was briefly named the ALeague for a season (or maybe a little longer).
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Geez that's fucking rancid.
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+xIf Australian Pensioners Insurance Agency Leichhardt wants to drop APIA from their name then so be it. But Inner West Sydney? Meh. Why not simply Leichhardt FC? The current list looks a bit north of this, west of that, southern this.... doesn't seem to be pitching at the grassroots which this league is all about.
This. Even "Lambert Tigers FC" or Lambert Park Tigers FC to pay some kind of homage. Its not too hard to find something better than geography.
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+x+xIf Australian Pensioners Insurance Agency Leichhardt wants to drop APIA from their name then so be it. But Inner West Sydney? Meh. Why not simply Leichhardt FC? The current list looks a bit north of this, west of that, southern this.... doesn't seem to be pitching at the grassroots which this league is all about.
This. Even "Lambert Tigers FC" or Lambert Park Tigers FC to pay some kind of homage. Its not too hard to find something better than geography. I'm just gagging for an Australian club to go for AFC prefix. AFC Leichhardt... sounds good, and it satisfies their instinctive need to have an abbreviation in their name.
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People outside Sydney may not know that the term Inner West is very widely used to describe a large group of suburbs from Pyrmont to Homebush. Another team looking to capture a fair chunk of Sydney FC fans. LOL. I would drop Sydney from the name, Inner West Tigers sounds better. Central Coast don't put "of NSW" in their name but everyone knows where they are.
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+xPeople outside Sydney may not know that the term Inner West is very widely used to describe a large group of suburbs from Pyrmont to Homebush. Another team looking to capture a fair chunk of Sydney FC fans. LOL. I would drop Sydney from the name, Inner West Tigers sounds better. Central Coast don't put "of NSW" in their name but everyone knows where they are. Im not sure but NRL may try to stop this as a breach of their ip.
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bigpoppa
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APIA Sydney Tigers - majority of football fans know of the APIA brand, no need to drop that imo
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+x+xAnyone know if we'll get something soon? Feels like some hot air is starting to make its way around Put it this way - I'm getting my pop-corn ready for when the news breaks... Looking forward to the effect it has on certain people. Yes interesting few days ahead.
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+x+x+xIf Australian Pensioners Insurance Agency Leichhardt wants to drop APIA from their name then so be it. But Inner West Sydney? Meh. Why not simply Leichhardt FC? The current list looks a bit north of this, west of that, southern this.... doesn't seem to be pitching at the grassroots which this league is all about.
This. Even "Lambert Tigers FC" or Lambert Park Tigers FC to pay some kind of homage. Its not too hard to find something better than geography. I'm just gagging for an Australian club to go for AFC prefix. AFC Leichhardt... sounds good, and it satisfies their instinctive need to have an abbreviation in their name. APIA is iconic. Would have kept it AFC APIA.
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4pm media release!? I'm pumped! That name is a mouthful though - no Magpie Warriors but still pretty terrible. Why not just Leichhardt Tigers?
I guess if Inner West is widely used and commonly known around Sydney then great, otherwise I don't like the name.
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Dropping the APIA name? Whilst I'm not a fan of their constant delusions ( ala South Melbourne ) dropping their club name is a betrayal of their long history.
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+x+x+x+xIf Australian Pensioners Insurance Agency Leichhardt wants to drop APIA from their name then so be it. But Inner West Sydney? Meh. Why not simply Leichhardt FC? The current list looks a bit north of this, west of that, southern this.... doesn't seem to be pitching at the grassroots which this league is all about.
This. Even "Lambert Tigers FC" or Lambert Park Tigers FC to pay some kind of homage. Its not too hard to find something better than geography. I'm just gagging for an Australian club to go for AFC prefix. AFC Leichhardt... sounds good, and it satisfies their instinctive need to have an abbreviation in their name. APIA is iconic. Would have kept it AFC APIA. Can someone relieve me of my ignorance, what does APIA mean?
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+x+x+x+x+xIf Australian Pensioners Insurance Agency Leichhardt wants to drop APIA from their name then so be it. But Inner West Sydney? Meh. Why not simply Leichhardt FC? The current list looks a bit north of this, west of that, southern this.... doesn't seem to be pitching at the grassroots which this league is all about.
This. Even "Lambert Tigers FC" or Lambert Park Tigers FC to pay some kind of homage. Its not too hard to find something better than geography. I'm just gagging for an Australian club to go for AFC prefix. AFC Leichhardt... sounds good, and it satisfies their instinctive need to have an abbreviation in their name. APIA is iconic. Would have kept it AFC APIA. Can someone relieve me of my ignorance, what does APIA mean? Associazione Poli-sportiva Italo Australiana.
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+x+x+x+x+xIf Australian Pensioners Insurance Agency Leichhardt wants to drop APIA from their name then so be it. But Inner West Sydney? Meh. Why not simply Leichhardt FC? The current list looks a bit north of this, west of that, southern this.... doesn't seem to be pitching at the grassroots which this league is all about.
This. Even "Lambert Tigers FC" or Lambert Park Tigers FC to pay some kind of homage. Its not too hard to find something better than geography. I'm just gagging for an Australian club to go for AFC prefix. AFC Leichhardt... sounds good, and it satisfies their instinctive need to have an abbreviation in their name. APIA is iconic. Would have kept it AFC APIA. Can someone relieve me of my ignorance, what does APIA mean? Pizza delivery something something
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIf Australian Pensioners Insurance Agency Leichhardt wants to drop APIA from their name then so be it. But Inner West Sydney? Meh. Why not simply Leichhardt FC? The current list looks a bit north of this, west of that, southern this.... doesn't seem to be pitching at the grassroots which this league is all about.
This. Even "Lambert Tigers FC" or Lambert Park Tigers FC to pay some kind of homage. Its not too hard to find something better than geography. I'm just gagging for an Australian club to go for AFC prefix. AFC Leichhardt... sounds good, and it satisfies their instinctive need to have an abbreviation in their name. APIA is iconic. Would have kept it AFC APIA. Can someone relieve me of my ignorance, what does APIA mean? Pizza delivery something something Fuck - I'd love some pizza right about now
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+xDropping the APIA name? Whilst I'm not a fan of their constant delusions ( ala South Melbourne ) dropping their club name is a betrayal of their long history. Old clubs can't win, can they? If they don't change they are accused of living in the past and refusing to diversify, etc., if they do change they are accused of betraying their history...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIf Australian Pensioners Insurance Agency Leichhardt wants to drop APIA from their name then so be it. But Inner West Sydney? Meh. Why not simply Leichhardt FC? The current list looks a bit north of this, west of that, southern this.... doesn't seem to be pitching at the grassroots which this league is all about.
This. Even "Lambert Tigers FC" or Lambert Park Tigers FC to pay some kind of homage. Its not too hard to find something better than geography. I'm just gagging for an Australian club to go for AFC prefix. AFC Leichhardt... sounds good, and it satisfies their instinctive need to have an abbreviation in their name. APIA is iconic. Would have kept it AFC APIA. Can someone relieve me of my ignorance, what does APIA mean? Pizza delivery something something Fuck - I'd love some pizza right about now Why do you think I wrote it. I'm craving it.
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+x+xDropping the APIA name? Whilst I'm not a fan of their constant delusions ( ala South Melbourne ) dropping their club name is a betrayal of their long history. Old clubs can't win, can they? If they don't change they are accused of living in the past and refusing to diversify, etc., if they do change they are accused of betraying their history... Is this what you meant by seeing how people react?
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+x+x+xDropping the APIA name? Whilst I'm not a fan of their constant delusions ( ala South Melbourne ) dropping their club name is a betrayal of their long history. Old clubs can't win, can they? If they don't change they are accused of living in the past and refusing to diversify, etc., if they do change they are accused of betraying their history... Is this what you meant by seeing how people react? That and everything else that will follow in the next few hours ;)
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+x+x+x+xDropping the APIA name? Whilst I'm not a fan of their constant delusions ( ala South Melbourne ) dropping their club name is a betrayal of their long history. Old clubs can't win, can they? If they don't change they are accused of living in the past and refusing to diversify, etc., if they do change they are accused of betraying their history... Is this what you meant by seeing how people react? That and everything else that will follow in the next few hours ;) Awesome. Gonna get the popcorn ready
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what is so big about some club changing their name?.
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One small step for clubs, one giant leap for footballA blueprint for the introduction of a national second tier football competition for men and women was released today by the Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC). Dubbed ‘The Championship’, AAFC proposes that the competition be aligned with the A-League season commencing in 2019-20, with promotion and relegation to be phased in over five seasons starting in 2024. Chairman Rabieh Krayem said that the AAFC believes a national second division is necessary for three reasons. “First, we need it from a football perspective. The best way to improve the quality of football and our international competitiveness is to give young players more, and higher standard, game time. “Second, as a football nation, we’re not fulfilling the membership requirements of either FIFA or the Asian Football Confederation by not having promotion and relegation in place. A national second division is a pre-requisite of that. “Third, we believe it’s necessary to have this extra level of national competition in place to help bring life back into the football ‘market’, increase interest and attract investment,” Krayem said. Participating clubs will be required to have a boutique stadium with capacity for 3,000 people as well as a capacity to meet an annual budget of $2.5 million, which includes an annual license fee of $150,000. The AAFC places a heavy emphasis on promoting young, local talent with at least half of the 20-person squad to be aged 25 or under, and a maximum of two visa players drawn from either the Asian or Oceania football confederations. AAFC also intends seeking agreement from the AFC for the winner of The Championship to be granted a place in the Asian Champions League. Krayem said the AAFC will call for expressions of interest from clubs or consortia interested in participating in The Championship in December, with bids to close in May next year. The bids will be independently assessed by Nous Group*, with successful bids announced in October 2018. “We’re delighted to have Nous Group on board as an independent arbiter in shaping and assessing the composition of The Championship. “We want this to be a competitive process, but also one where the football community can be confident that it is fair, evidence-based and decided on merit,” Krayem said. “Football has made giant strides in the past 15 years or so, particularly in participation, but a vital factor for the growth, success and sustainability is the quality and competitiveness of the football on offer. “This isn’t about a breakaway organisation or league. We want to work with all stakeholders to help achieve the Whole of Football Plan and to help realise the goal of being the biggest and most successful sport in the country. “The Championship will contribute to making the football ecosystem bigger and better for everyone, and lay the groundwork for helping players, clubs and the code reach its extraordinary potential.” For further information on The Championship including the process and timeline for consultation, expressions of interests, bids and implementation, visit www.thechampionship.com.au
http://www.australianfootballclubs.org.au/news/one-small-step-for-clubs-one-giant-leap-for-football
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AAFC also intends seeking agreement from the AFC for the winner of The Championship to be granted a place in the Asian Champions League.
LMFAO. Surely they mean the AFC Cup?
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