Davide82
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What a fucking shambles. Hours after FFV talk to FFA we get this bullshit release. The FFA are in freefall and it's funny/painful to watch
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Davide82
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+x+x+xIf it’s in the summer it will not be allowed to compete with the A-League so it’s 11am, 1pm and 3pm kick offsGood luck with thisSELF INTEREST Why can't it kick off at the same time? The document says it won't plus FIFA's Standard Statutes say that they aren't allowed to compete with FFA competitions. And what is so wrong with 3pm Saturday kickoffs? Why is that one of the time he mocks?
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Roberts1
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Gallop doesn’t give a farrrk about this shit BS Comp It’s only the NSL bitters - All 20 of them They meet up at Centrelink then launch into this forum .... SELF INTEREST
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aufc_ole
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Old mate (too ashamed to use his main account?) is packing it in and I'm loving it
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Gyfox
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+x+x+x+xIf it’s in the summer it will not be allowed to compete with the A-League so it’s 11am, 1pm and 3pm kick offsGood luck with thisSELF INTEREST Why can't it kick off at the same time? The document says it won't plus FIFA's Standard Statutes say that they aren't allowed to compete with FFA competitions. And what is so wrong with 3pm Saturday kickoffs? Why is that one of the time he mocks? The only thing I can think of is the heat. I think they should be able to arrange a fixture list that doesn't compete in the same city without much problems. Broadcast against Fox and One might not be allowed though.
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Billy the Fish
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+xThe FFA are in freefall and it's funny/painful to watch #Unique In most countries the Football is more entertaining than the Administrators
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+x+x+x+x+xIf it’s in the summer it will not be allowed to compete with the A-League so it’s 11am, 1pm and 3pm kick offsGood luck with thisSELF INTEREST Why can't it kick off at the same time? The document says it won't plus FIFA's Standard Statutes say that they aren't allowed to compete with FFA competitions. And what is so wrong with 3pm Saturday kickoffs? Why is that one of the time he mocks? The only thing I can think of is the heat. I think they should be able to arrange a fixture list that doesn't compete in the same city without much problems. Broadcast against Fox and One might not be allowed though. Would internet streaming be a loophole around this?
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Davide82
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+x+x+x+x+x[quote]If it’s in the summer it will not be allowed to compete with the A-League so it’s 11am, 1pm and 3pm kick offsGood luck with thisSELF INTEREST Why can't it kick off at the same time? The document says it won't plus FIFA's Standard Statutes say that they aren't allowed to compete with FFA competitions. And what is so wrong with 3pm Saturday kickoffs? Why is that one of the time he mocks? The only thing I can think of is the heat. Yeah good point actually.
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Davide82
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+x+xThe FFA are in freefall and it's funny/painful to watch #Unique In most countries the Football is more entertaining than the Administrators Yeah. If only that were true we would have thousands on this forum as opposed to in the stands Might even mean new blood on here instead of dried up dull old blood under a new name every few months
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RBBAnonymous
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+xGallop doesn’t give a farrrk about this shit BS CompIt’s only the NSL bitters - All 20 of themThey meet up at Centrelink then launch into this forum ....SELF INTEREST Your right he doesn't give a shit. So when he recently called out that he was now interested in talking about a 2nd tier after recently being turned down by the FFV we should regard that with suspicion. We only have to wait a month and then FIFA can talk to the NPL clubs. I agree with you, well done.
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Benjamin
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+xIf it’s in the summer it will not be allowed to compete with the A-League so it’s 11am, 1pm and 3pm kick offsGood luck with thisSELF INTEREST You said this yesterday and I responded... (1) Every other country in the world plays multiple games on the same day - with the majority of fixtures kicking off at the same time. There's no rule to say that all Championship fixtures need to be televised. In fact, with the Championship being on a different network to the HAL, why would fixture clashes be an issue at all? (2) It could be a mid-week league - with games played in prime-time Monday-Thursday evening - providing extra product for Fox (for example) if they decided to go for the rights. You also keep saying "self interest" - presumably because you feel this new league will conflict with the FFA's self-interest..? Clubs want to spend money to compete at a higher level, aren't asking for anything from the governing body, and are happy with the idea of KPIs deciding who is good/strong enough to step up to the next level... Where is the self-interest?
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Benjamin
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+xGallop doesn’t give a farrrk about this shit BS CompIt’s only the NSL bitters - All 20 of themThey meet up at Centrelink then launch into this forum ....SELF INTEREST He may not give a shit, but he can no longer avoid it. Meanwhile it appears that the NSL bitters have out-manoeuvred your glorious FFA, formed relationships at FIFA and with the AFC, formed a better relationship with the HAL owners than the FFA have, have got the PFA onside, and have growing support amongst the media and the football supporters of Australia... It's only the occasional bitter racist, watching their nice clean plastic world falling apart around them, that seems to object wildly to the concept anymore. And we're all laughing our arse off at you - although the laughter may have to stop soon because Centrelink security are looking upset.
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Roberts1
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So how the farrrk can this BS competition Work when all the NPL clubs have attendances in the low 100s, many can’t even reach 3 figures Apia, Adel City, Heildberg All parted from the NSL because of financial difficulties - how in hell can they compete in NSL Mark 2 This thread is a joke SELF INTEREST
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Bocca
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What do we think are the odds of some of the expansion candidates joining this competition to build a fan base or prove their credentials (Tasmania, SE Melbourne etc)? In a perfect world all new A-league teams would go through a second division first. But we ideally need expansion at the same time as the proposed Division 2 launch.
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Davide82
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+xSo how the farrrk can this BS competition Work when all the NPL clubs have attendances in the low 100s, many can’t even reach 3 figuresApia, Adel City, Heildberg All parted from the NSL because of financial difficulties - how in hell can they compete in NSL Mark 2This thread is a jokeSELF INTEREST If a team is stupid enough to send itself broke (quite likely) it will fall out of the league. Done. Find it interesting that APIA say this will be a separate entity and they will still run an NPL team. Sounds like a recipe for another closed league I guess Germany has reserve sides in Div 3 don't they? Didn't all the NPL teams fight to keep A-League teams from being able to play in the NPL?
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There isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so".
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Benjamin
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+xWhat do we think are the odds of some of the expansion candidates joining this competition to build a fan base or prove their credentials (Tasmania, SE Melbourne etc)? In a perfect world all new A-league teams would go through a second division first. But we ideally need expansion at the same time as the proposed Division 2 launch. All have been invited to submit bids.
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Big Wally
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+x+xSo how the farrrk can this BS competition Work when all the NPL clubs have attendances in the low 100s, many can’t even reach 3 figuresApia, Adel City, Heildberg All parted from the NSL because of financial difficulties - how in hell can they compete in NSL Mark 2This thread is a jokeSELF INTEREST If a team is stupid enough to send itself broke (quite likely) it will fall out of the league. Done. Find it interesting that APIA say this will be a separate entity and they will still run an NPL team. Sounds like a recipe for another closed league I guess Germany has reserve sides in Div 3 don't they? Didn't all the NPL teams fight to keep A-League teams from being able to play in the NPL? Maybe the Apia NPL team will be just like the NPL teams of the HAL academies, focus on younger players, etc. I like that concept. The 3-4 NSW based Championship teams giving their younger players all year round football. makes sense and aligns with the national strategy better. Apia will need to maintain their youth, SAP and womens teams, that's the cash cows that will fund most of their 2nd division sides expenses.
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Benjamin
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+xSo how the farrrk can this BS competition Work when all the NPL clubs have attendances in the low 100s, many can’t even reach 3 figuresApia, Adel City, Heildberg All parted from the NSL because of financial difficulties - how in hell can they compete in NSL Mark 2This thread is a jokeSELF INTEREST You're obsessing on the wrong things. The Championship will be comprised of the best bids from existing NPL clubs and new start-up franchises. You don't have to worry about the club that can't get a crowd or doesn't have any money - you only have to worry about the bids that can prove they have the facilities, finances and management to move forward. As for your mantra - unlike the A-League selection process, the Championship members will be decided by an independent body based on a clear set of criteria - it becomes somewhat difficult to serve your own interests when an independent body is making the call. If you are still concerned about attendances of existing clubs who may apply - you may wish to note that they are all currently playing in local leagues with no potential to go to a higher level, whereas in the Championship they would be playing on the national level with the potential to earn a place in a higher league. As for this thread being a joke... Well, you keep coming back and posting...
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Roberts1
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Mate The last time I saw Apia in 2011, they had 52 fans at a game, this team full of wonderful history has died I watched Syd United play a wonderful 9 goal thriller in a NPL champion of champions game in 2015 they had 700... The list goes on and on... The Championship will never get off the ground as all the fans have passed away, may they RIP
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Davide82
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+x+x+xSo how the farrrk can this BS competition Work when all the NPL clubs have attendances in the low 100s, many can’t even reach 3 figuresApia, Adel City, Heildberg All parted from the NSL because of financial difficulties - how in hell can they compete in NSL Mark 2This thread is a jokeSELF INTEREST If a team is stupid enough to send itself broke (quite likely) it will fall out of the league. Done. Find it interesting that APIA say this will be a separate entity and they will still run an NPL team. Sounds like a recipe for another closed league I guess Germany has reserve sides in Div 3 don't they? Didn't all the NPL teams fight to keep A-League teams from being able to play in the NPL? Maybe the Apia NPL team will be just like the NPL teams of the HAL academies, focus on younger players, etc. I like that concept. The 3-4 NSW based Championship teams giving their younger players all year round football. makes sense and aligns with the national strategy better. Apia will need to maintain their youth, SAP and womens teams, that's the cash cows that will fund most of their 2nd division sides expenses. Yeah I just meant that a) it's funny that they now want to do what they tried to stop a-league teams from doing and also b) that from the extract they seem to only talk about p&r with a-league clubs so not further down. Is this just another cartel that the ones that don't get picked for this league will rebel over for years?
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+x+xSo how the farrrk can this BS competition Work when all the NPL clubs have attendances in the low 100s, many can’t even reach 3 figuresApia, Adel City, Heildberg All parted from the NSL because of financial difficulties - how in hell can they compete in NSL Mark 2This thread is a jokeSELF INTEREST If a team is stupid enough to send itself broke (quite likely) it will fall out of the league. Done. Find it interesting that APIA say this will be a separate entity and they will still run an NPL team. Sounds like a recipe for another closed league I guess Germany has reserve sides in Div 3 don't they? Didn't all the NPL teams fight to keep A-League teams from being able to play in the NPL? This is one of things I don't like about the AAFC proposal. Club's shouldn't be playing in both the NPL and the Championship unless it's a designated youth team, similar to how the A-League clubs participate in the NPL at the moment. Eventually the plan should be to link the NPL and the Championship, and a single club can't have a team competing in both at that stage.
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aussie pride
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+x+x+xSo how the farrrk can this BS competition Work when all the NPL clubs have attendances in the low 100s, many can’t even reach 3 figuresApia, Adel City, Heildberg All parted from the NSL because of financial difficulties - how in hell can they compete in NSL Mark 2This thread is a jokeSELF INTEREST If a team is stupid enough to send itself broke (quite likely) it will fall out of the league. Done. Find it interesting that APIA say this will be a separate entity and they will still run an NPL team. Sounds like a recipe for another closed league I guess Germany has reserve sides in Div 3 don't they? Didn't all the NPL teams fight to keep A-League teams from being able to play in the NPL? This is one of things I don't like about the AAFC proposal. Club's shouldn't be playing in both the NPL and the Championship unless it's a designated youth team, similar to how the A-League clubs participate in the NPL at the moment. Eventually the plan should be to link the NPL and the Championship, and a single club can't have a team competing in both at that stage. I don't see what the issue is. The players will be able to get paid to play year round football = better development & profesionalism. Similar to how A-League sides NYL sides play in the NPL to further develop through the winter.
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Benjamin
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+xThere isn't demand from enough people who will pay to watch. The clubs individually have unviable fan base numbers.I actually want to see this. It will be fun for about 2 seasons. Then the money problem will rear its head. At that point I hope the FFA just washes it s hands of it and says "We told you so". And the beauty of the league is that if it fails the FFA will have the option to do just that... Meanwhile, if it's a success the game wins. Literally a no-lose situation. The group behind The Championship have managed to unite state league clubs from around the country in a way the FFA could only dream of; formed better relationships with the AFC, FIFA and the HAL owners than the FFA; and have outmanoeuvred the governing body regarding the whole situation to the degree that David Gallop has had to change his position 180 degrees in the space of one weekend. In terms of intelligence, strategy and footballing passion, these people have proved themselves to be extremely competent - it's baffling that some seem to think they've got this far without addressing the financial model behind closed doors. If they didn't think the budget was attainable, they would have set the budget lower.
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Benjamin
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+x+x+xSo how the farrrk can this BS competition Work when all the NPL clubs have attendances in the low 100s, many can’t even reach 3 figuresApia, Adel City, Heildberg All parted from the NSL because of financial difficulties - how in hell can they compete in NSL Mark 2This thread is a jokeSELF INTEREST If a team is stupid enough to send itself broke (quite likely) it will fall out of the league. Done. Find it interesting that APIA say this will be a separate entity and they will still run an NPL team. Sounds like a recipe for another closed league I guess Germany has reserve sides in Div 3 don't they? Didn't all the NPL teams fight to keep A-League teams from being able to play in the NPL? This is one of things I don't like about the AAFC proposal. Club's shouldn't be playing in both the NPL and the Championship unless it's a designated youth team, similar to how the A-League clubs participate in the NPL at the moment. Eventually the plan should be to link the NPL and the Championship, and a single club can't have a team competing in both at that stage. If they link NPL/Championship (as they hopefully will long term) there's nothing to stop clubs operating sides in both competitions. In the event the club wins the lower league they simply can't be promoted to the higher one.
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And have to have a massive laugh at the narrow minded minority on here about the "self interested nsl bitters".
Heaven forbid some clubs have the audacity to try and better themselves and the hopes and dreams of thousands of boys and girls around the nation. How dare they try and improve the foundations of the footballing structure in this country.
Let the A2 happen and if clubs fall over from raising the bar, so be it. There's probably a short list of 30 clubs who could be capable of making the jump and would take the chance if offered the opportunity.
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‘It’s baffing they have got this far’
They havent done anything, except for a pile of BS. It’s taken up time for which can be used for other important real stuff.
It’s all about exNSL bitters having their whinge..
A disgraceful part of our football history has just occurred
Wait for the request for hand outs from the FFA to occur...
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Benjamin
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+xMateThe last time I saw Apia in 2011, they had 52 fans at a game, this team full of wonderful history has diedI watched Syd United play a wonderful 9 goal thriller in a NPL champion of champions game in 2015 they had 700...The list goes on and on...The Championship will never get off the ground as all the fans have passed away, may they RIP Once again, I'll put my money on the guys who danced rings around the FFA, rather than the guy who goes on a forum and cries 'SELF INTEREST' because he doesn't like the old clubs. End of the day if they can't fulfil the selection criteria they won't get in... If they can't support themselves once in, they won't survive... If they don't survive they will be replaced from below... So why worry about them?
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Gyfox
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+x+x+xSo how the farrrk can this BS competition Work when all the NPL clubs have attendances in the low 100s, many can’t even reach 3 figuresApia, Adel City, Heildberg All parted from the NSL because of financial difficulties - how in hell can they compete in NSL Mark 2This thread is a jokeSELF INTEREST If a team is stupid enough to send itself broke (quite likely) it will fall out of the league. Done. Find it interesting that APIA say this will be a separate entity and they will still run an NPL team. Sounds like a recipe for another closed league I guess Germany has reserve sides in Div 3 don't they? Didn't all the NPL teams fight to keep A-League teams from being able to play in the NPL? This is one of things I don't like about the AAFC proposal. Club's shouldn't be playing in both the NPL and the Championship unless it's a designated youth team, similar to how the A-League clubs participate in the NPL at the moment. Eventually the plan should be to link the NPL and the Championship, and a single club can't have a team competing in both at that stage. South West Sydney which is a club being established by Southern Districts and Macarthur Associations will have loose links through ownership to Southern Raiders and Macarthur Rams which are the NPL clubs of those Associations. That set up would provide a nice pathway for players in that part of Sydney. With a population of 800k that is growing by over 20k per year and 20k registered players between them it seems an ideal opportunity to grow the game in a fast developing region.
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MarkfromCroydon
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Whilst the AAFC announcement of "The Sweatshop" was underwhelming, I'm glad to see FFA have put their hand up to help the AAFC get their act together. Hopefully this will mean a better product is delivered.
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