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National second division is kicking off with or without FFA

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bohemia - 28 Nov 2017 9:59 PM
Gallop has the midas touch. Upon agreeing to a second division the existing plans were instantaneously delayed by a year. He touches something and it... it's just.... delayed



Also, something entirely unrelated....


The 3 rules of defence law

1) delay
2) delay
3) delay

His pay should be delayed. 

And a strike action. All Footballers and coaches go on strike. 



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how will we be any more ready for a 2nd division in 2020 than 2019, or 2018. there no 3 year planning process. just get the teams together and do it.

if you've agreed its worthwhile stop wasting time. we don't have time. 
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AAFC chairman lifts the lid on “robust” FFA meeting, start date left open

  
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Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) Chairman Rabieh Krayem says he left his meeting on Tuesday with David Gallop and his executives content with progress made, but no introduction date for the new competition was disclosed.

The AAFC said “historic next steps” were taken towards introducing a national second tier at the meeting, the first of its kind between the organisation and head office.

At the meeting, the AAFC discussed its proposal for the competition coined ‘The Championship’ and key elements, including structure and governance, surrounding it.

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“The meeting was quite robust and the pleasing aspect was there wasn’t any discussion about that they don’t support the Championship,” Krayem said on Wednesday’s Daily Football Show.

“They’ve had their questions like others have about certain parts of the proposal that we’ve put together.

“The end will result will be, after you’ve spoken to a whole group of people, you’ll end up with a model that will meet the criteria that is required.

“The meeting was robust, it was challenging … the positive is that when we walked away, the FFA showed a commitment to allocate some resources to work within our group, to work to a final model.”

A ‘Championship Development Team’ is expected to be unveiled next week, comprising FFA personnel as well as representatives from the state federations.

FFA also committed funding, and while no number has been put to that, Krayem said he was pleased by the injection of resources.

“I think it’s not about funding, it’s about the resources … Our plan that we put out back in October had a consultation process between November and March,” he said.

“We’ve spoken to some of the stakeholders about them being involved in the consultation process.

“Through David Gallop, they’ve committed to applying resources within his organisation that could come on the team, as well as Football Victoria and Football New South Wales.

“The PFA plays a part as does the A-League, so the idea is to get a group of people that can work through the consultation process to listen to the suggestions, consult with people and develop a model from what we’ve started to a model FFA have to approve.”

Goal Australia reported on Tuesday that such a competition was set to be rolled out by 2020.

An initial statement issued by the AAFC late in October suggested the target time of introduction was the 2019-20 season.

However, Krayem insisted there was no fixed date for the beginning of the Championship.

“The date wasn’t discussed,” Krayem added.

“Yesterday, we weren’t worried about that.

“It was about the consultation process that will develop and out of that will lead to further timing.

“The date was left open.”

AAFC chairman lifts the lid on “robust” FFA meeting, start date left open | Daily Football Show


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The Fans - 29 Nov 2017 11:06 AM
how will we be any more ready for a 2nd division in 2020 than 2019, or 2018. there no 3 year planning process. just get the teams together and do it.

if you've agreed its worthwhile stop wasting time. we don't have time. 

Exactly. The same with expansion or any meaningful action for that matter.

Stupid shit like heritage round, meaningless derbies and fucking Star Trek rounds are easy to do because they are examples of doing nothing. Instead of putting one's ass on the line the game has been subjected to meaningless gimmicks that solve very little. We need an actual plan in place which is far as I'm concerned, the AAFC are actually doing.


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scott21 - 29 Nov 2017 7:31 PM

AAFC chairman lifts the lid on “robust” FFA meeting, start date left open

  
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Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) Chairman Rabieh Krayem says he left his meeting on Tuesday with David Gallop and his executives content with progress made, but no introduction date for the new competition was disclosed.

The AAFC said “historic next steps” were taken towards introducing a national second tier at the meeting, the first of its kind between the organisation and head office.

At the meeting, the AAFC discussed its proposal for the competition coined ‘The Championship’ and key elements, including structure and governance, surrounding it.

RELATED: “A long time coming” – Goals were bound to flow for Central Coast Mariners, Danny De Silva says

“The meeting was quite robust and the pleasing aspect was there wasn’t any discussion about that they don’t support the Championship,” Krayem said on Wednesday’s Daily Football Show.

“They’ve had their questions like others have about certain parts of the proposal that we’ve put together.

“The end will result will be, after you’ve spoken to a whole group of people, you’ll end up with a model that will meet the criteria that is required.

“The meeting was robust, it was challenging … the positive is that when we walked away, the FFA showed a commitment to allocate some resources to work within our group, to work to a final model.”

A ‘Championship Development Team’ is expected to be unveiled next week, comprising FFA personnel as well as representatives from the state federations.

FFA also committed funding, and while no number has been put to that, Krayem said he was pleased by the injection of resources.

“I think it’s not about funding, it’s about the resources … Our plan that we put out back in October had a consultation process between November and March,” he said.

“We’ve spoken to some of the stakeholders about them being involved in the consultation process.

“Through David Gallop, they’ve committed to applying resources within his organisation that could come on the team, as well as Football Victoria and Football New South Wales.

“The PFA plays a part as does the A-League, so the idea is to get a group of people that can work through the consultation process to listen to the suggestions, consult with people and develop a model from what we’ve started to a model FFA have to approve.”



Of course the discussions were robust'. FFA would be pointing out the flaws in the sweatshop league that AAFC want to set up to exploit young players and line the pockets of their club chairmen whilst delivering a sub standard product for the mug punter to pay top dollar to consume. 

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Ah. They are exploited. Another brain-dead theory from paulc or mark from cardboard box. 

Good one chief. 


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TheSelectFew - 29 Nov 2017 11:07 PM
Ah. They are exploited. Another brain-dead theory from paulc or mark from cardboard box. 

Good one chief. 

He wrote a new lol though

"we need to protect the braindead punters from being tricked to spend their money where they want"
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scott21 - 29 Nov 2017 11:10 PM
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He wrote a new lol though

"we need to protect the braindead punters from being tricked to spend their money where they want"

Do you think he knows? 


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@ FFF Scott21

Thanks for sharing that (is there a link?).

Allowing for the fact it’s still work in progress there’s some really good stuff in there. There’s a few questionable things like why the need for 49% of club ownership by the competition (does that change if they get promoted or relegated?) and some communism era little rules like clubs only keep 90% of merchandise revenues not 100% (I know we won’t be talking about much in dollar terms but that 10% going to a central pot won’t make much difference either, why not let clubs retain 100%?)

But overall it’s looking good - I’d hope the FFA/HAL can support with some funding.

I’d also like to see the Championship clubs come in to the FFA Cup at the same time as the HAL clubs
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Here is the presentation Association of Australian Football Clubs delivered to Football Federation Australia yesterday with their proposed model for a 2nd division, or "The Championship"


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Anyway, it said on a fb page it was what was presented to FFA. I think it is very close to what is on the championship website. 
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Oy vay. That’s not what you said earlier in the week!


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scott21 - 30 Nov 2017 6:41 PM

Oy vay. That’s not what you said earlier in the week!


Slippery snake needed to go.




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hotrod - 30 Nov 2017 7:06 PM
scott21 - 30 Nov 2017 6:41 PM

Slippery snake needed to go.

It just seems like classic FFA tactics.

AAFC talked with Gallop, but Lowy says something else. 

O'Rouke says something about A-League, Gallop says opposite

Lowy says something about league/NT Galllop or O'Rouke says opposite

They have been doing it for years. One says something positive than another knocks it down or vice versa. 
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Not too long now lads. 


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scott21 - 30 Nov 2017 6:41 PM

Oy vay. That’s not what you said earlier in the week!


Jesus that's a bit of a jab throwing in a jewish expression addressing Lowy. Not good form at all.
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bohemia - 1 Dec 2017 2:19 AM
scott21 - 30 Nov 2017 6:41 PM

Jesus that's a bit of a jab throwing in a jewish expression addressing Lowy. Not good form at all.

Lowy gives them a free hit and they come up with something disgraceful. Poor form all round.
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bohemia - 1 Dec 2017 2:19 AM
scott21 - 30 Nov 2017 6:41 PM

Jesus that's a bit of a jab throwing in a jewish expression addressing Lowy. Not good form at all.

If you are going to jewsplain this you could have at least left Jesus out of it. 
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bohemia - 1 Dec 2017 2:19 AM
scott21 - 30 Nov 2017 6:41 PM

Jesus that's a bit of a jab throwing in a jewish expression addressing Lowy. Not good form at all.

It's an expression of disbelief, delivered to a Jewish family...  More of a piss-take than anything.  You've had Lowy twisting and distorting the facts, presenting a near completely false picture of the footballing world we're in at the moment, desperately trying to hold onto power whilst being critical of others for wanting some power...  He's lashed out at everyone and absolved his cadre of all sins.  And you feel a little piss-take is poor form?
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Benjamin - 1 Dec 2017 9:37 AM
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It's an expression of disbelief, delivered to a Jewish family...  More of a piss-take than anything.  You've had Lowy twisting and distorting the facts, presenting a near completely false picture of the footballing world we're in at the moment, desperately trying to hold onto power whilst being critical of others for wanting some power...  He's lashed out at everyone and absolved his cadre of all sins.  And you feel a little piss-take is poor form?

In this instance, yeah. Considering the gravity of what has happened and the risks to Australia with a potential normalising committee and Lowy going nuclear on FIFA. I like to think the AAFC is acting in good faith for the best interests of the sport... not just to get one up on the Jew.
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All gloves are off after Lowys press conference in my opinion.
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bigpoppa - 1 Dec 2017 9:48 AM
All gloves are off after Lowys press conference in my opinion.

What a dumb thing to do as well. There is more money and power in the lower leagues than the top. The AAFC combined power would have to be more than that of the FFA.


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bohemia - 1 Dec 2017 9:45 AM
Benjamin - 1 Dec 2017 9:37 AM

In this instance, yeah. Considering the gravity of what has happened and the risks to Australia with a potential normalising committee and Lowy going nuclear on FIFA. I like to think the AAFC is acting in good faith for the best interests of the sport... not just to get one up on the Jew.

If someone had said that to me in Portuguese, I wouldn't have an issue with it. I'm not sure why you are making a big deal out of it.
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Benjamin - 1 Dec 2017 9:37 AM
bohemia - 1 Dec 2017 2:19 AM

  And you feel a little piss-take is poor form?

Unneccessary, and inviting a distraction

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Benjamin - 1 Dec 2017 9:37 AM
bohemia - 1 Dec 2017 2:19 AM

It's an expression of disbelief, delivered to a Jewish family...  More of a piss-take than anything.  You've had Lowy twisting and distorting the facts, presenting a near completely false picture of the footballing world we're in at the moment, desperately trying to hold onto power whilst being critical of others for wanting some power...  He's lashed out at everyone and absolved his cadre of all sins.  And you feel a little piss-take is poor form?

Really? 

Its a tad racist isn't it? Imagine if Lowy was muslim and someone stuck 'inshallah' into a sentence.

Not on.

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Benjamin - 1 Dec 2017 9:37 AM

Unneccessary, and inviting a distraction

Exactly, it's unprofessional. Not a huge deal but stupid nonetheless. belongs in a private twitter feed not as heads of an organisation responding to official channels.

Do we want people prone to emotive, ill thought out responses in positions of power in football in times of crisis? Fuck me this sport is hard to support in australia.
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Childish is what it is. 
Forget whether it's racist or offensive etc or you get anti PC brigade jumping on you and life's too short for that shit.
It's lame and childish and plain unprofessional which is what they so desperately want us to see them as.
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bohemia - 1 Dec 2017 2:19 AM
scott21 - 30 Nov 2017 6:41 PM

Jesus that's a bit of a jab throwing in a jewish expression addressing Lowy. Not good form at all.

For all the good things they are doing throwing a tweet out there like that has the potential to get a lot of people offside. Pretty poor form.
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