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GloryPerth - 21 Dec 2017 1:40 AM
johnszasz - 21 Dec 2017 12:47 AM

Agreed and like the line-up, though it's quite likely Sotirio will be seen to be a key player and infront of Hrustic, Kamau and Buhagiar. Players who have shown good form in the A-League are most likely to start and Sotirio is one of those. Hrustic and other Europeans seem quite talented, but if they don't have the match fitness/form that puts them behind the eight-ball compared to their recently playing A-League squad rivals. Keanu Baccus will be hard to over-look too, given his recent MOTM form with the WSW. In this mix, I think McGree and his lack of match fitness could see him unlucky. Though Kamau hasn't impressed as much this A-League season, compared to last and may be no certainty to start either. This is why the depth of options soo exciting as you say, no guarantees of a place for any of them, bar Izzo (Though Glover regarded, he lacks recent fitness), De Silva and Aspro perhaps. It's also possible Milicic may favour Aspro and Deng as the consistent CB pairing, especially as Tongyik lacks the match fitness this season, so Cowburn would be the RB choice in that case.

It would be surprising and disappointing if someone like Sotirio got a start ahead of someone like Hrustic who's already had callups to the Socceroos. Sotirio is a limited player who can barely get a spot with a struggling HAL team. Playing reserves in Germany is no worse than that. This should be a platform for someone like him to show his wares and push for a loan in the transfer window. 
We lack a quality keeper, and the CB's are quite average too. Aspro is pretty average, Deng has been all over the place the past year and Tongyik has barely got on the pitch all season. 

Midfield is strong. Strikers, well we don't know much about Popovic or Juric so it will be interesting to see if they can deliver at this level. Blackwood should definitely be 3rd choice behind these two. 
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Christian Theoharous – the skills of the father are the skills of the son

Greek-Cypriot Australian Christian Theoharous' A-League career has only just begun, but his speed, dribbling and ability to take players on has Australian football fans excited at the winger's potential

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Theoharous has been part of Melbourne Victory's youth set up since 2014 and made his senior professional debut in round 24 of the 2016-17 A-League season at age 17.

His father was born in Pegia, Cyprus while his mother was born in Australia to Greek-born parents. Football was in the blood with Christian's father Andrew Theoharous making his debut in the former National Soccer League (NSL) for Heidelberg. After the NSL's demise, he played for Bentleigh Greens and captained them for a decade.

So, it's no surprise to learn that when Christian was six years old he also joined Bentleigh Greens.

After making his A-League debut he feels proud that both he and his dad have played football in Australia at the highest level.

"It's pretty amazing," says the 18-year-old. "A lot of people say he was a very good and very passionate footballer."

And Theoharous revealed that the many hours honing his skills with the help of his father is the reason he has amassed such impressive attacking attributes.

"I'm a very positive player," he says. "I'm not afraid to play against anyone. I back myself. There has been a lot of hard work behind the scenes. Since I was little, my dad has taught me a few tricks and skills I have kept with me that I also practice. I like to play with freedom and to express myself on the field and confidence is also a very big factor."

After Bentleigh Greens, Theoharous joined the Victorian state team, then was part of the senior Skillaroos for a year, before moving to the National Training Centre until he was offered a gig with Melbourne Victory.

While he has only started his journey in senior football, Theoharous' performances have seen him receive many plaudits and rave reviews. Much of the hype is down to his ability to get fans off their seat but the teenager isn't buying into the talk that he is the next big thing in Australian football.

"I don't look into that too much. I just go out there and play football," he says.

"It's obviously a confidence boost. But I haven't really achieved anything yet. I'm still really young. It can only take you so far. Representing the biggest club in Australia and playing with some of the best players in Australia is huge. Even the likes of Leroy George taking me under his wing, Besart Berisha,
James Troisi, and Carl Valeri, they all help me and they want the best out of me. I couldn't ask for anything more."

After achieving his childhood ambitions by playing senior football last season, this term Theoharous is looking to get more game time.

"It's just something that I have always dreamt of doing. I was a Victory supporter when I was little and I always wanted to play for Victory," he says.

"My dad has always pushed me and has always wanted the best out of me. I get most of my motivation from my dad and my mum. I do it for myself, but I also do it for my family as well.
"I don't want to let anyone down – my family and everyone at the club too.
"So, this season my goals were just to get more minutes, because I barely got any last year, and just break into the team. This season I started off well and I came off the bench in the first game, and as a result I also had representing Australia in the back of my mind."

Theoharous' dream of representing his country came to fruition only months later when the teenager was part of the Young Socceroos squad that qualified for next year's Asian Cup in Indonesia.

"It was a dream come true," Christian says of playing for Australia's U20 national team.
"At any level, to represent your country is a good chance to show scouts too: you never know who is watching wherever you play. I've been enjoying my football a lot lately.
"The first game we played was against North Korea and then the second game was against Vietnam and we won both of them.
"I really, really like playing under our coach Ufuk Talay. I have a good relationship with him. He's pretty inspiring and pretty motivating."

Next year's Asian Cup doubles up as the qualifiers for the 2017 U20 World Cup in Korea.

Australia has missed out on qualifying in recent years and Theoharous is determined to show his skills on the world stage.

"Obviously we don't want to be remembered for the group not making it," he says. "We want to be remembered for the group that got as far as they could and who gave it all that they've got. It would good for football in Australia if we can qualify and hopefully we can build on what we have achieved so far."

As well as making his A-League debut last term, Theoharous also produced an impressive display when Melbourne Victory played a friendly against La Liga giants Atletico Madrid last year.

But the highlight of this season was when the 18-year-old came on as a substitute in the 1-1 draw against Brisbane Roar in Round six and changed the match.

Theoharous' 15-minute cameo saw the teenager set up the opening goal of the game, and he revealed that having the belief of Victory coach Kevin Muscat made the moment even more special.

"The game against Brisbane at home at Etihad Stadium was memorable," he says. "No-one actually knows the behind the scenes story about that. I just came back from representing Australia in Vietnam on the weekend and Kevin put me in the squad.
"The game against Brisbane was on the Saturday and I came back on the Friday, and before the game the coach called me and said, 'how are you feeling? How were your games? We might use you on the weekend'. I didn't train with the team at all that whole week, so I was glad that the coach still trusted me and I was happy to have changed the game when I came on."

For many young attacking players trying to get their breakthrough in the A-League is especially difficult as international players tend to fill those roles. But Theoharous says he isn't fazed by the competition for places.

"Anywhere in the world it is difficult to break in at a young age," he says. "It's all about working hard and training hard. You need to show the coach that you want to improve every day and when the chance comes, to grab it with both hands and not to overthink it. You're there for a reason. You're there because you are good enough. That's all."

Like all Australian youngsters, representing the Socceroos is an aspiration but Theoharous isn't thinking too far ahead.

"One step at a time," he says "I have represented Australia at U20 level. The next step is U23 and from there hopefully grab a spot in the Socceroos. But I really just want to concentrate on my club career and that will come after.
"This season at Melbourne Victory we want to win the championship. As a team we aim high and for me personally, I want to get as much game time as I can and to help the team win the A-League."
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johnszasz - 21 Dec 2017 12:47 AM
Going by the squad I'd like to see

Izzo 
Deng Aspro Tongyik Gersbach
McGree O'Neill 
Hrustic Da Silva Kamau
Popovic 

Lots of options really. Exciting. 

After watching him live last night in Newcastle i would drop Aspro, apart from his ball playing ability he's slow as a turtle and reads the game poorly in a defensive sense.
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According to a Adam Peacock tweet it seems Fox will be showing the U23 matches live. Otherwise they should be on AFC YouTube channel. 
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Don't want to get over the top but the next Young Socceroo batch has got some very interesting young talents coming through.

Atkinson, Italiano, Arzani, Theohauras, Genreau and Pasquali etc there progress with be fascinating in the next 12 months.  
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Barca4Life - 23 Dec 2017 10:48 PM
Don't want to get over the top but the next Young Socceroo batch has got some very interesting young talents coming through.

Atkinson, Italiano, Arzani, Theohauras, Genreau and Pasquali etc there progress with be fascinating in the next 12 months.  

A lot of positive news of late and many are doing it on the pitch also. Just have to phase out recycled players and let these young ones grow. 
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Barca4Life - 23 Dec 2017 10:48 PM
Don't want to get over the top but the next Young Socceroo batch has got some very interesting young talents coming through.

Atkinson, Italiano, Arzani, Theohauras, Genreau and Pasquali etc there progress with be fascinating in the next 12 months.  

Folami and Iredale are another two of this group. Looking very strong in the front half.
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Barca4Life - 23 Dec 2017 10:48 PM
Don't want to get over the top but the next Young Socceroo batch has got some very interesting young talents coming through.

Atkinson, Italiano, Arzani, Theohauras, Genreau and Pasquali etc there progress with be fascinating in the next 12 months.  

who are the etc..?
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johnszasz - 23 Dec 2017 11:26 PM
Barca4Life - 23 Dec 2017 10:48 PM

A lot of positive news of late and many are doing it on the pitch also. Just have to phase out recycled players and let these young ones grow. 

Indeed there are some promising talents, im sure there is more we haven't heard of if there was more teams. 
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fanoffootball - 24 Dec 2017 12:21 AM
Barca4Life - 23 Dec 2017 10:48 PM

who are the etc..?

There is also players like Akbari, Brook from Adelaide, and some promising lads from Melb City and WSW, each club has got some promising players except surprisingly Sydney FC

Don't want to go over the top but the latest 20s look to be promising. 
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Barca4Life - 24 Dec 2017 1:17 AM
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There is also players like Akbari, Brook from Adelaide, and some promising lads from Melb City and WSW, each club has got some promising players except surprisingly Sydney FC

Don't want to go over the top but the latest 20s look to be promising. 

It's much needed because the 20-23 age group is very underwhelming 
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lukerobinho - 24 Dec 2017 1:19 AM
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It's much needed because the 20-23 age group is very underwhelming 

Potential best players from under 20 here and overseas 11

-----------------Glover-----------------

Atkinson-----Rowles------Ryan-----Pieras

--------------Pasquali-----Baccus-------

Italiano-------------Akbari-----------Arzani----

----------------------Iredale-----------------

Not bad base to work with. 
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lebo_roo - 23 Dec 2017 3:09 PM
According to a Adam Peacock tweet it seems Fox will be showing the U23 matches live. Otherwise they should be on AFC YouTube channel. 

A search of the foxtel guide shows the Aus vs Syria match is being shown live on foxsports. 
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lebo_roo - 29 Dec 2017 1:07 AM
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A search of the foxtel guide shows the Aus vs Syria match is being shown live on foxsports. 

What date would that be?
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walnuts - 29 Dec 2017 9:24 AM
lebo_roo - 29 Dec 2017 1:07 AM

What date would that be?

Thursday January 11
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Peter Cklamovski just quit as Joeys coach and as Socceroos assistant coach for an opportunity abroad, my guess would be following Ange to Japan.
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Yup it’s already been confirmed he’s joining Ange.
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I'd imagine, with a new Socceroos coach, brings with it new support staff.
The joeys will have 3 different coaches in 9 month window. Can anyone share on who is likely to replace

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This is a good thread. Does the U23 tournament need its own thread?

Anyway I'll post here. Japan have named a very young squad of mostly 19 and 20 year old players. Don't know any of them. They definitely have some under 23 who could be in the squad but are more established the A side. 
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johnszasz - 3 Jan 2018 9:27 PM
This is a good thread. Does the U23 tournament need its own thread?

Anyway I'll post here. Japan have named a very young squad of mostly 19 and 20 year old players. Don't know any of them. They definitely have some under 23 who could be in the squad but are more established the A side. 

It's a baffling that the likes of Champness and Jackson are not there instead of likes Sotirio or Aspro, the former should be in the set up so we don't lose him to NZL.
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It's a baffling that the likes of Champness and Jackson are not there instead of likes Sotirio or Aspro, the former should be in the set up so we don't lose him to NZL.

Champness in particular has been outstanding this season and again last night against us
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S. Korea unveils its under-23 team for AFC championship

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PAJU, South Korea, Jan. 5 (Yonhap) -- South Korea on Friday confirmed the lineup of its under-23 football team that will compete in a continental tournament in China this month.The Korea Football Association announced the squad of 23 players who will represent South Korea at the Asian Football Confederation U-23 Championship. The biennial competition is scheduled from Tuesday to Jan. 27 in Jiangsu Province, China.The men's team, led by head coach Kim Bong-gil, includes 13 players who have made pro debuts with K League clubs. Hwang Ki-wook of Belgian side AFC Tubize and Park In-hyeok of Serbian club Vojvodina are the only two based in Europe.South Korea's under-23 national football team trains at the National Football Center in Paju, north of Seoul, on Jan. 5, 2018. (Yonhap)South Korea's under-23 national football team trains at the National Football Center in Paju, north of Seoul, on Jan. 5, 2018. (Yonhap)At the 16-team tournament, South Korea is with Vietnam, Syria and Australia in Group D. The top two teams from the group will advance to the knockout stage.South Korea finished fourth in the 2013 tournament and second in 2016. Kim said the goal is to lift South Korea's first U-23 championship trophy."All coaches at the tournament are going for the title," Kim said before training at the National Football Center in Paju, north of Seoul. "We'll first try to reach the semifinals and then go for the championship."
   South Korea will have their opening match against Vietnam next Thursday. Vietnam are currently led by South Korean coach Park Hang-seo."Vietnam are fast and they have good counterattacks," he said. "But I believe they have some defense problems, so we'll play a high-pressing game."
   Kim's team will face Syria on Jan. 14 and play their final group stage match against Australia on Jan. 17."Most of Syria's under-23 players play for their senior national team," he said. "Australia are a physical team, since they have many players who are with European clubs."
   After the Asian Championship, Kim faces another daunting task: to try to win a gold medal at the Asian Games in Indonesia this summer. South Korea are the defending champions of the quadrennial event.South Korea under-23 national football team head coach Kim Bong-gil (C) speaks with his assistants at the National Football Center in Paju, north of Seoul, on Jan. 5, 2018. (Yonhap)South Korea under-23 national football team head coach Kim Bong-gil (C) speaks with his assistants at the National Football Center in Paju, north of Seoul, on Jan. 5, 2018. (Yonhap)Like at the Olympic Games, the men's football tournament at the Asian Games is open to players under 23, but teams can also field up to three players who are over the age limit, called wild cards.In South Korea, male athletes who earn an Olympic medal or win gold at the Asian Games are exempted from the country's mandatory two-year military service. This can be beneficial to professional athletes' careers and their teams' prospects.While Tottenham Hotspur's Son Heung-min, 25, is regarded as a possible wild card selection, Kim said he will take some time to think about it."I want to call up many Europe-based players in March and June," he said. "I want to pick players who are mentally strong and work hard."
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Australia play the warm up match with Thailand at 6pm aedt in Shanghai i think before the U23 tournament starts proper. Probably no streams. 
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Well Australia won that warm up match against Thailand. 2-1 i think it was. 

The first half of the first game still isn't being shown live on Foxsports, is it? I know they were working on it. 
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kaufusi - 9 Jan 2018 10:54 AM
Well Australia won that warm up match against Thailand. 2-1 i think it was. 

The first half of the first game still isn't being shown live on Foxsports, is it? I know they were working on it. 

I think it is being streamed on Fox.
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Nice. Champness has been called up the U23 for the injured Sotirio. This will be great to see.
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johnszasz - 9 Jan 2018 11:07 AM
Nice. Champness has been called up the U23 for the injured Sotirio. This will be great to see.

Should have been called up in the main 23 instead, but its great hes in now. 
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Newcastle would be fuming 
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What will the team look like if we actually make the Olympics?
Something like?

2020 Olympics (97')

/-----/-----/Glover/-----/-----/
/-----/Deng/-----/Ouzounidis/-----/-----/
/Atkinson/-----/-----/-----/Gersbach/
/-----/Oneill/-----/Mcgree/----/
/Arzani/-----/De Silva/-----/Champness/
/-----/-----/Popovic/-----/-----/

/-----/-----/Holmes/-----/-----/
/-----/?/-----/Rowles/----/-----/
/Strain/-----/-----/-----/Garrucio/
/-----/Laws/-----/Brimmer/-----/
/Armenekas/-----/Pasquali/-----/Baccus/
/-----/-----/Juric/-----/-----/

Maynard-Brewer/Prinsen/Blackwood

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chondro - 10 Jan 2018 5:13 AM
What will the team look like if we actually make the Olympics?
Something like?

2020 Olympics (97')

/-----/-----/Glover/-----/-----/
/-----/Deng/-----/Ouzounidis/-----/-----/
/Atkinson/-----/-----/-----/Gersbach/
/-----/Oneill/-----/Mcgree/----/
/Arzani/-----/De Silva/-----/Champness/
/-----/-----/Popovic/-----/-----/

/-----/-----/Holmes/-----/-----/
/-----/?/-----/Rowles/----/-----/
/Strain/-----/-----/-----/Garrucio/
/-----/Laws/-----/Brimmer/-----/
/Armenekas/-----/Pasquali/-----/Baccus/
/-----/-----/Juric/-----/-----/

Maynard-Brewer/Prinsen/Blackwood

When you put it like that it is quite an exciting look.

I think the young fella italliano from perth may very well jump a couple of age groups
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