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Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Maccarone is copping sh*t for two reasons, the first is some Roar fans see him as the manifestation of what’s gone wrong this season and the second, he’s coping shit for what he doesn’t or can’t do - running, pressing, closing down etc ....

What he can do, and do very well, is defend (he’s leading the way for Roar with defensive headed clearances - that’s not an accident); he can receive, hold and pass the ball under pressure (hence Aloisi has been trying him st 10), and of course he can finish.

He’s the only Roar player to have played in every game this season averaging 89 minutes/game. That’s a nice stat but he should have been rested by now only his potential replacements of Gameiro, Skapetis and D’Agastino have all been injured. Ironic that it’s the 38 year old staying injury free.

But the biggest problem with Maccarone is how he’s been used, JA knowing that he doesn’t have a mobile No. 9 has failed to create a game plan that utilises his strengths and mitigates his weaknesses (I’ve lost count the number of times we’ve lobbed the ball over his head asking him to chase Maclaren-style!!).

Anyway, the seasons nearly done for us. Attention needs to be turning to who out No. 9 will be next season
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Draupnir - 13 Jan 2018 2:14 PM
I don't get the Maccarone hate. He's legit kept Brisbane alive single handedly. The difference between Avraam and Boogaard isn't huge at all either way you go. I'd take Georgevski over Hingert any day as well.

Aloisi is just a shit manager. That's it. 

Agree with all this. Especially about Aloisi.
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Draupnir - 13 Jan 2018 2:14 PM
I don't get the Maccarone hate. He's legit kept Brisbane alive single handedly. The difference between Avraam and Boogaard isn't huge at all either way you go. I'd take Georgevski over Hingert any day as well.

From the Brisbane games I've seen he seems to be putting in more running and pressing than most of the others. That's on Aloisi surely. 

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I don't get the Maccarone hate. He's legit kept Brisbane alive single handedly. The difference between Avraam and Boogaard isn't huge at all either way you go. I'd take Georgevski over Hingert any day as well.

Aloisi is just a shit manager. That's it. 
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Merrick is the sort of coach who looks at what he’s has in the squad and then plays a style to match their strengths. So I reckon if he had Maccarone in the squad he might just have come up with a game plan that suited. Oh no that’s right he would have had Hoffman as his striker and Maccarone out.
The fact that you call Maccarone lazy shows just how little you’ve seen of him this season.
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clockwork orange - 13 Jan 2018 12:04 PM
I’m talking about the starting lineups as you know. Let it go. You probably wouldn’t play o’donovan anyway, in case he became the league’s top scorer.

i'm not sure how you've watched ernie merricks teams play and got the impression he'd start a slow, lazy 36 year old who can score a few goals. 
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clockwork orange - 13 Jan 2018 11:55 AM
@The Fans. So funny that you wouldn’t give a start to a guy that you think would become the league’s leading scorer if he did play.Don’t think I could ever comprehend let alone agree with that level of logic. 😂

actually i forgot about bobo he'd be hard to catch. but its really not that interesting. any semi- decent striker would be close to leading scorer if they played 9 for the jets every week. nabbout or odonovan would both be at least close to it as would bobo, keogh, taggart, mccormac, santalab, reira or berisha who are all much better than maccorrone. 

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I’m talking about the starting lineups as you know. Let it go.
You probably wouldn’t play o’donovan anyway, in case he became the league’s top scorer.
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clockwork orange - 13 Jan 2018 11:27 AM
@the fans If Maccarone was at Newcastle he’d be the leading scorer in the league. But to keep you happy how about Maccarone > Hoffman Leck < NabboutMy point is still valid. On paper Roar had a better first 11. The difference is the coach.

If we are talking actual first 11s. Then ODonovan shits all over Maccarone.
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@The Fans. So funny that you wouldn’t give a start to a guy that you think would become the league’s leading scorer if he did play.
Don’t think I could ever comprehend let alone agree with that level of logic. 😂
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@The Fans

“i think with merrick what he does is give attacking players freedom to express themselves” ... it’s an interesting word “freedom”.

At one of the preseason games for Roar (Lions) Ross Aloisi came over to the fans and was chatting away and said words to the effect “unfortunately the players are confused about what we want them to do and how we want them to play”. That comment sounds so much the opposite of freedom
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clockwork orange - 13 Jan 2018 11:27 AM
@the fans If Maccarone was at Newcastle he’d be the leading scorer in the league. But to keep you happy how about Maccarone > Hoffman Leck < NabboutMy point is still valid. On paper Roar had a better first 11. The difference is the coach.

he wouldn't get a start, but if he played as 9 every week he probably would.

we'll have to agree to disagree. i couldn't disagree more tbh. Brisbane squad is awful. 

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Waz - 13 Jan 2018 10:50 AM
@ The Fans Not going to argue on that, the ladder says it all. Here’s an interesting thought - if Aloisi and Merrick had swapped roles at the beginning of the season what difference would it have made? Same squads/injuries and all ...I recon Roar would be up top and Jets down at the bottom.

Impossible to say because Merricks squad matches his playing style. His squad has players with real quality in attack while brisbane simply don't have that. they might have players that are performing well below where they should but they aren't the sort of players merrick would have. 

i think with merrick what he does is give attacking players freedom to express themselves, freedom to attack without fear. the opposite of ange. Newcastle has nabbout, petratos, rodrigues and when he comes back vargas, even champness. At wellington he had burns. At mv he had blokes like fred and archie. They all already had the ability, but its like merrick sets them free. what attackers does brisbane have? what attacking, "flair" players?  the closest would be a 35 year old ben kalfallah on his last legs as a pro. 

I remember talking to you before the season about how bad brisbanes squad was looking. they aren't this bad just because of coaching, its recruitment too. aloisi has no idea what kind he team he wants to create. they're so clueless they didn't even offer broich a professional contract. 
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@the fans If Maccarone was at Newcastle he’d be the leading scorer in the league.
But to keep you happy how about
Maccarone > Hoffman
Leck < Nabbout
My point is still valid. On paper Roar had a better first 11. The difference is the coach.
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clockwork orange - 13 Jan 2018 10:53 AM
Maccarone and Nabbout are supposed to score goals. Maccarone has scored more goals than Nabbout in a side that has scored less than half the goals.

ok i thought you were saying the maccarone is a better player than nabbout, but you're not only saying that but also that he has had a better season. thats just sad mate. if you think maccarone is good enough then sorry you deserve the shit brisbane have dished out all season. he might be able to put a few away when put on a platter but in every other way he is just not up to up. 

also nabbout is a winger more than a striker but even so has 7 goals and maccarone has 6 from open play (and one penalty), and nabbout has 6 assists to maccarrones 1. he's also one of the best players in the 2nd best team in the league. not even close. 


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Maccarone and Nabbout are supposed to score goals. Maccarone has scored more goals than Nabbout in a side that has scored less than half the goals.
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@ The Fans

Not going to argue on that, the ladder says it all.

Here’s an interesting thought - if Aloisi and Merrick had swapped roles at the beginning of the season what difference would it have made? Same squads/injuries and all ...

I recon Roar would be up top and Jets down at the bottom.
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The Fans - 13 Jan 2018 9:21 AM
clockwork orange - 12 Jan 2018 10:32 PM

You can't seriously think Brisbanes squad compares to Newcastle? In terms of quality that aren't even close. 

rating papa above boogs and maccarone above nabbout is craaaazy. They aren't even in the same ballpark. Surely nobody in their right minds would take papa and macca over boogs and nabbout?  

i don't think kristiansen can compare to ugarkovic either. 

and petratos is just head and shoulders above anyone in the brisbane team. 

Papa craps on boogard to think otherwise is absurd, one of the best centre backs in the league his suspension was very costly.
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JoyfulPenguin - 13 Jan 2018 12:19 AM
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Yeah don't get people slagging him off, he was very good in defence and whipped some dangerous balls but made a few inexperienced errors. Has the potential to be a very good left back.

Agreed. I've thought he looked very promising and prefer him to Brown.
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clockwork orange - 12 Jan 2018 10:32 PM
Young > MossHingert = GeorgevskiPapa > BoogsPepper < T-SOTool < VujicaTK > UgarkovicMcKay = BrownBkf < PetratosEric > ClutMaccarone > NabboutLeck < HoffmanWe should win except:Aloisi <<<<<< Merrick

You can't seriously think Brisbanes squad compares to Newcastle? In terms of quality that aren't even close. 

rating papa above boogs and maccarone above nabbout is craaaazy. They aren't even in the same ballpark. Surely nobody in their right minds would take papa and macca over boogs and nabbout?  

i don't think kristiansen can compare to ugarkovic either. 

and petratos is just head and shoulders above anyone in the brisbane team. 
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Waz - 12 Jan 2018 11:07 PM
O’Toole has another good game. Not sure missing one header (yes, I recon he stuffed it up too) is worth writing him off for. At just 20 he’s a real prospect.

Yeah don't get people slagging him off, he was very good in defence and whipped some dangerous balls but made a few inexperienced errors. Has the potential to be a very good left back.
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O’Toole has another good game. Not sure missing one header (yes, I recon he stuffed it up too) is worth writing him off for. At just 20 he’s a real prospect.
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I have completely lost interest in this team. Please Roar management, for the love of God, do something to revive this once great club! Coach, players, I don't care. Just do something FFS!!
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Nah mate, equal to Zullo remember? 

Mistimed a header, not the end of the world for a left back, seen strikers miss worse. Looks solid for what is only his 2nd or 3rd appearance for Brisbane.




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Young > Moss
Hingert = Georgevski
Papa > Boogs
Pepper < T-S
OTool < Vujica
TK > Ugarkovic
McKay = Brown
Bkf < Petratos
Eric > Clut
Maccarone > Nabbout
Leck < Hoffman

We should win except:

Aloisi <<<<<< Merrick

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JonoMV - 12 Jan 2018 9:18 PM
O'toole is garbage lol

Nah mate, equal to Zullo remember? 
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Johnny sticking to his usual excuses.

Tough season, injuries since day one, players unfit, players out due to suspensions. We know are going to get better, players to come back, lost heaps of players due to injuries. Keep positive, still believe they can make the finals.

Dead man walking. 



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Ready for aloisi to use the words chances, clear cut and unlucky constantly during his press conference
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Waz - 12 Jan 2018 9:59 PM
MOTM Jamie Young. Well done Fox, would have been easy to pick a couple of Jets players. Well deserved.

2 weeks in a row he's been on the podium. Good stuff, pity about those in front of him.
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