Bozza: Phoenix offer nothing to the A-League


Bozza: Phoenix offer nothing to the A-League

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Do you put an s in #NixsOut ?

#Nixsout


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lukerobinho - 4 Jan 2017 8:49 PM
Pauline hanson for head of A-league 

She has more balls than Gallop. Not a bad choice actually.
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New_Dawn_Kiwi_Fan - 4 Jan 2017 11:21 PM
lukerobinho - 4 Jan 2017 8:49 PM

She has more balls than Gallop. Not a bad choice actually.

UPDATE. Even your One Nation Party wants to puy sanctions on us! Http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/appalled-one-nation-senator-malcolm-roberts-seeks-punitive-stance-against-kiwi-settlements-in-australia-20170104-gtlskt.html
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New_Dawn_Kiwi_Fan - 4 Jan 2017 11:41 PM
New_Dawn_Kiwi_Fan - 4 Jan 2017 11:21 PM

UPDATE. Even your One Nation Party wants to puy sanctions on us! Http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/appalled-one-nation-senator-malcolm-roberts-seeks-punitive-stance-against-kiwi-settlements-in-australia-20170104-gtlskt.html

There all out to get us one way or another. #NixsOut #SaveTheKnuts.


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nomates - 4 Jan 2017 11:53 PM
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There all out to get us one way or another. #NixsOut #SaveTheKnuts.

Frank lowy won't be best pleased when he finds out the kiwis wont bend over for Israels ethno fascist state 
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There is no direct professional football pathway in New Zealand without the Nixs, You just cant fob off an island nations only pro team because of 5k crowds.

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Benjamin - 4 Jan 2017 9:20 PM
Bosnich and Hill, two high profile Fox employees, speaking negatively about Wellington should be noted very carefully.

From Fox's point of view, especially under the terms of the new deal, a 10 team Australian competition is worth more than a 9+1 foreign team deal.  If the 10th side is in Sydney or Melbourne, even better for them.

Also cheaper to add a replacement team in Melbourne or Sydney as they don't have to pay for a bigger league that they don't want.

FFA are trying to flush Nix's intentions out as soon as possible in case they have to find Team10 in a hurry.

Was obvious as soon as they put expansion criteria back to July.

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nomates - 5 Jan 2017 1:07 PM
There is no direct professional football pathway in New Zealand without the Nixs, You just cant fob off an island nations only pro team because of 5k crowds.

I suppose the question is , what right do we have to impose our concerns on the Aussies? Is it CER (Closer Economic Relations?) Or COAG?
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Benjamin - 4 Jan 2017 9:20 PM
 Bosnich and Hill, two high profile Fox employees, speaking negatively about Wellington should be noted very carefully.

From Fox's point of view, especially under the terms of the new deal, a 10 team Australian competition is worth more than a 9+1 foreign team deal.  If the 10th side is in Sydney or Melbourne, even better for them.

Note : Hills 'opinion' still refers to the February date for the criteria............

It's almost as though it was pre-written some time ago...........hmmmmm

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nomates - 5 Jan 2017 1:07 PM
There is no direct professional football pathway in New Zealand without the Nixs, You just cant fob off an island nations only pro team because of 5k crowds.

We can and we should. Just because your country's federation can't get its shit together doesn't mean you leech off us.


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As I said before, of NZ or the Nix want to be in the HAL, they should pay for the privilege...
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hames_jetfield - 5 Jan 2017 1:33 PM
nomates - 5 Jan 2017 1:07 PM

We can and we should. Just because your country's federation can't get its shit together doesn't mean you leech off us.

We are a developing football nation, We need to leech off someone until we can get it together. If its good enough for the NRL and NBL then its good enough for A-League.


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Burztur - 5 Jan 2017 1:45 PM
As I said before, of NZ or the Nix want to be in the HAL, they should pay for the privilege...

about three fitty ($NZ)

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nomates - 5 Jan 2017 1:48 PM
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We are a developing football nation, We need to leech off someone until we can get it together. If its good enough for the NRL and NBL then its good enough for A-League.

It makes sense for the NRL because a lot its fans and playing base are Kiwi/Pacific Islander. It makes sense for the NBL because it has a very low base for supporters within Australia.

It doesn't make sense for football as we have a large enough base of potential supports who are simply not connected to the A-League

As I have said before, the opportunity cost of keeping a NZ team in the A-League while there are viable Australian alternatives who will engage this disconnected fanbase while giving opportunities to potentially 23 Australian players plus NYT and W-League is far too great. It is also far too great for Foxtel as they cannot even sell subscriptions into NZ.


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hames_jetfield - 5 Jan 2017 2:03 PM
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It makes sense for the NRL because a lot its fans and playing base are Kiwi/Pacific Islander. It makes sense for the NBL because it has a very low base for supporters within Australia.

It doesn't make sense for football as we have a large enough base of potential supports who are simply not connected to the A-League

As I have said before, the opportunity cost of keeping a NZ team in the A-League while there are viable Australian alternatives who will engage this disconnected fanbase while giving opportunities to potentially 23 Australian players plus NYT and W-League is far too great. It is also far too great for Foxtel as they cannot even sell subscriptions into NZ.

But expansion is coming to fill them "missing" gaps for Australian players/development which makes that argument redundant. Fox get just over $200k from SKY TV which may go up next season, We can also have a W-League side too with out taking away player paths from Aussies.  


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nomates - 5 Jan 2017 2:18 PM
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But expansion is coming to fill them "missing" gaps for Australian players/development which makes that argument redundant. Fox get just over $200k from SKY TV which may go up next season, We can also have a W-League side too with out taking away player paths from Aussies.  

There's a finite amount of spots that can be given to Australian bids and more Australian bids that want to be in the A-League. The Phoenix occupy one spot. Regardless, as it stands - the Phoenix represent a huge opportunity cost. 

I am sure Foxtel can get far more than $200k per season with an Australian team. Having a NZ team doesn't engage disconnected Australians here.

In regards, to the W-League, flying over to Wellington for games only increases the financial burden that the W-League currently is. 

You still haven't answered why Australia should be directly assisting another country's football federation in a completely different confederation. Why should we be directly assisting the development of Kiwi talent that has already denied an Asian country a place at a World Cup and has the potential to do so in the future?


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hames_jetfield - 5 Jan 2017 11:34 PM
nomates - 5 Jan 2017 2:18 PM

There's a finite amount of spots that can be given to Australian bids and more Australian bids that want to be in the A-League. The Phoenix occupy one spot. Regardless, as it stands - the Phoenix represent a huge opportunity cost. 

I am sure Foxtel can get far more than $200k per season with an Australian team. Having a NZ team doesn't engage disconnected Australians here.

In regards, to the W-League, flying over to Wellington for games only increases the financial burden that the W-League currently is. 

You still haven't answered why Australia should be directly assisting another country's football federation in a completely different confederation. Why should we be directly assisting the development of Kiwi talent that has already denied an Asian country a place at a World Cup and has the potential to do so in the future?


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hames_jetfield - 5 Jan 2017 11:34 PM
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There's a finite amount of spots that can be given to Australian bids and more Australian bids that want to be in the A-League. The Phoenix occupy one spot. Regardless, as it stands - the Phoenix represent a huge opportunity cost. 

I am sure Foxtel can get far more than $200k per season with an Australian team. Having a NZ team doesn't engage disconnected Australians here.

In regards, to the W-League, flying over to Wellington for games only increases the financial burden that the W-League currently is. 

You still haven't answered why Australia should be directly assisting another country's football federation in a completely different confederation. Why should we be directly assisting the development of Kiwi talent that has already denied an Asian country a place at a World Cup and has the potential to do so in the future?
It was the FFA who wanted a kiwi team to remain in the A-League over local bidders. As for the world cup - well it just shows the strength of the A-League if a handful of A-League talent can knock out the 5th best Asian nation, Not to mention we could even knock Australia out in a play off if that was to happen.
Also NZ has the potential to grow and have another 2 team in Auckland and Christchurch that would rack in more funds from SKY TV.



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Ex-Socceroo Robbie Slater calls for Wellington Phoenix to be axed from A-League

Robbie Slater is the latest wanting NZ's only professional side to be canned.
Robbie Slater is the latest wanting NZ's only professional side to be canned. Photo credit: Getty Images

Another former Australian football international believes it is time for the Wellington Phoenix to be scrapped from the A-League.

Robbie Slater is the latest to join the list, which includes Mark Bosnich and John Kosmina, saying the struggling club doesn't deserve to be a part of Australia's premier football competition.
Ex-Socceroo Robbie Slater calls for Wellington Phoenix to be axed from A-League | Newshub

#savetherot


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I think they were given maybe an extra five or three years.  


I think...............

Maybe...............

3 or 5.............


What a twat




Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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scott21 - 12 Mar 2018 7:05 PM

Ex-Socceroo Robbie Slater calls for Wellington Phoenix to be axed from A-League

Robbie Slater is the latest wanting NZ's only professional side to be canned.
Robbie Slater is the latest wanting NZ's only professional side to be canned. Photo credit: Getty Images

Another former Australian football international believes it is time for the Wellington Phoenix to be scrapped from the A-League.

Robbie Slater is the latest to join the list, which includes Mark Bosnich and John Kosmina, saying the struggling club doesn't deserve to be a part of Australia's premier football competition.
Ex-Socceroo Robbie Slater calls for Wellington Phoenix to be axed from A-League | Newshub

#savetherot


I dont care if Nix leave or not. As long as the league goes to 14 teams.

If the league does go to 14 teams and Nix are still in, Im happy for a Auckland team, as long as they play at a rectangular stadium etc etc.

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If replaced with a Sydney team I think the immediate effect on league attendances would be a boost of ~550. That's based on the assumption that they draw an average around 11,000 which is a piss in.

3 home derbies for a new sydney team with total attendance of 60,000 would come close to matching Wellington's season total. Yes, 3 games.

Provided the Southern Expansion folk aren't mafia connected like a Slovakian prime minister I see no reason not to rush them in.
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I've got nothing against the Nix, but if a Canberra team with equal attendance got their spot it would provide more pathways for Australian youth, less travel costs and more spots for Aussie players to play at a pro level
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Redcarded , simple but 100% correct , unfortunately it will take a number of consultants and 100-200k to come up with same !


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nomates - 5 Jan 2017 1:07 PM
There is no direct professional football pathway in New Zealand without the Nixs, You just cant fob off an island nations only pro team because of 5k crowds.

i understand you. small population = a Non existent professional league in NZ. Basically Oceania got fucked when Australia left and NZ get left in the cold. not an idea situation



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HeyItsRobbie - 12 Mar 2018 10:45 PM
nomates - 5 Jan 2017 1:07 PM

i understand you. small population = a Non existent professional league in NZ. Basically Oceania got fucked when Australia left and NZ get left in the cold. not an idea situation



The best quote about that was someone from NZ football saying, upon NZ being stranded in Oceania after Australia left was "we don't want to be in a competition to find the tallest dwarf"

Wow, the article is still on the internet.  https://www.smh.com.au/news/Football/Australia-invited-to-join-Asian-football-family/2005/03/23/1111525227613.html




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Munrubenmuz - 12 Mar 2018 11:06 PM
HeyItsRobbie - 12 Mar 2018 10:45 PM

The best quote about that was someone from NZ football saying, upon NZ being stranded in Oceania after Australia left was "we don't want to be in a competition to find the tallest dwarf"

Wow, the article is still on the internet.  https://www.smh.com.au/news/Football/Australia-invited-to-join-Asian-football-family/2005/03/23/1111525227613.html


you gotta feel for them. its like they cannot survive without australia. if 25 million people from australia all moved to new zealand, it'll benefit them greatly, especially in sports
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We got a ten year licence that politically means where going nowhere soon. Slater can keep on sucking them lemons. 

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Nix wanta stay in and if NZF wants them to stay in... offer the AFC the Oceania spots in FIFA tournaments as a play off ... in the new scheme of things the best Oceania team V the 9 Asian team... 
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