Madjet
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+x+xIsn't it interesting that CCM membership is down 35% despite the massive media attention that Bolt has generated. Perhaps actual football fans dont want to pay to watch a circus. Roll the excuses..... Would be interesting to see how many of the memberships were sold after the Bolt rumours started. Low memberships could also be to do with Magic Mike signing a bunch of NPL players and fans thinking they won't be at all competitive this season. Perhaps sick of seeing their team get smashed? Why pay money to watch a team no better than your local pub team!
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+xADL=== 3, 655 ROA=== 6, 265 MAR=== 2, 919 MEC=== 6, 620 MEV=== 19, 527 JETs=== 6, 923 PhG=== 5, 301 SFC=== 8, 604 NIX=== 2, 753 WSW=== 14, 750 Total – 77, 317 https://www.a-league.com.au/membership From last year and the same update day of Friday Update on 7th September- AU === 4,498 Roar == 4,137 CCM = 4,471 City === 7,264 Victory = 21,569 Jets === 5,702 Glory=== 5,967 SFC ===11,287 Nix ===== 1,574 WSW === 15,918 Total 82, 387 https://forum.insidesport.com.au/2548905/Season-201718-ALeague-Clubs-Membership-thread?PageIndex=3 So Adelaide is down ~800, Brisbane is up ~2,100, gypos are down ~1500, City is down ~600, Victory is down ~2000 (even with VAR assistance), Newy is up ~1200, Glory is down ~600, Sydney is down ~2600 (!), Nux are up ~1200, Wanderers are down ~1200. Only 3 clubs are on the up re: membership numbers. Sydney typically disappointing.
He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.
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Why are Sydney FC a colossal failure in their market?
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Melbcityguy
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Pretty crazy every team is missing their kpi.
Who will break the mould and come up with something creative?
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P&R will fix it 2.0
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+xWhy are Sydney FC a colossal failure in their market? Why do Victorians think that Membership numbers matter ?
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marconi101
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+x+xWhy are Sydney FC a colossal failure in their market? Why do Victorians think that Membership numbers matter ? Because they reflect public interest?
He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.
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someguyjc
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+xWhy are Sydney FC a colossal failure in their market? SFC are a bit of a different case though (statistically speaking). MV for example have average attendances lower than their membership numbers whereas SFC has higher average attendances compared to their membership numbers. Financially speaking a club gets more money (per ticket) for non members, so although SFC members numbers seem low, ticket revenue would be very good. Their average attendance is 2nd only to MV. Calling that a colossal failure is a bit harsh. However, it is interesting. The numbers suggest SFC fans are prepared to go to games regularly, but not purchase memberships.
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Bocca
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Victory were over 20k last week, so I'm not sure where that number is coming from. We also have to remember that the season is starting 2 weeks later than last year, so that could be a reason for lower membership numbers at this stage.
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JayEss
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I think the whole FFA governance debacle is impacting membership numbers to an extent and I hope that doesn't reflect in terms of crowd numbers this year.
It's a real shame, because judging by the quality of the imports (and returning Socceroos/fringe Socceroos) this year shapes up as potentially the highest standard in footballing terms..and for once I'm excited about an A-League season.
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+xI think the whole FFA governance debacle is impacting membership numbers to an extent and I hope that doesn't reflect in terms of crowd numbers this year. It's a real shame, because judging by the quality of the imports (and returning Socceroos/fringe Socceroos) this year shapes up as potentially the highest standard in footballing terms..and for once I'm excited about an A-League season. I think the non stop arguing and white anteing has held us back the last two seasons and people are just sick to death of it .... Steven has been an abject failure ... god I hope this ends soon ...
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+x+xWhy are Sydney FC a colossal failure in their market? SFC are a bit of a different case though (statistically speaking). MV for example have average attendances lower than their membership numbers whereas SFC has higher average attendances compared to their membership numbers. Financially speaking a club gets more money (per ticket) for non members, so although SFC members numbers seem low, ticket revenue would be very good. Their average attendance is 2nd only to MV. Calling that a colossal failure is a bit harsh. However, it is interesting. The numbers suggest SFC fans are prepared to go to games regularly, but not purchase memberships. There is no shortage of seats at the SFS, nor will there be at the three grounds we are moving to. I personally have two season tickets and see the benefits they offer.
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+x+xWhy are Sydney FC a colossal failure in their market? SFC are a bit of a different case though (statistically speaking). MV for example have average attendances lower than their membership numbers whereas SFC has higher average attendances compared to their membership numbers. Financially speaking a club gets more money (per ticket) for non members, so although SFC members numbers seem low, ticket revenue would be very good. Their average attendance is 2nd only to MV. Calling that a colossal failure is a bit harsh. However, it is interesting. The numbers suggest SFC fans are prepared to go to games regularly, but not purchase memberships. I look at the numbers and interpret them to say that there are a lot of Sydney FC supporters and they turn up at different games during the year. This would be expected when you consider that Sydney FC support base spreads across 3-4 major areas on the city.
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Melbcityguy
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5,213 MEMBERS 6,856 MEMBERS 3,509 MEMBERS 7,618 MEMBERS 21,354 MEMBERS 7,806 MEMBERS 5,522 MEMBERS 9,771 MEMBERS 3,592 MEMBERS 14,909 MEMBERS
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ADL=== 5, 213 ROA=== 6, 856 MAR=== 3, 509 MEC=== 7, 618 MEV=== 21, 354 JETs=== 7, 816 PhG=== 5, 522 SFC=== 9, 771 NIX=== 3, 592 WSW=== 14, 909 Total – 86, 150https://www.a-league.com.au/membership Remember starting two weeks latter this season so only two weeks out from 2017 / 18 season starting Membership update 21st September:2017 Adelaide: 4,779 Brisbane: 4,306 Central Coast: 4,565 Melbourne City: 8,503 Melbourne Victory: 22,640 Newcastle: 6,284 Perth: 6,352 Sydney: 11,626 Wellington: 2,784 WSW: 16,124 Total: 87,963 https://forum.insidesport.com.au/2548905/Season-201718-ALeague-Clubs-Membership-thread?PageIndex=4
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@ Midfielder
I’d say membership is flat on last year based on those numbers then. No need to haggle over a few either way. .
Its good that members haven’t pissed off completely.
Its bad that we’re unable to inject some growth in there.
Given the state of the game I think we’ll take this as a win.
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I'm surprised Mariners membership is lower this time than it was last year. Are they not using Bolt in local advertising? Surely you'd have him on every local t.v, radio and newspaper with a gimmicky marketing strategy. You know, along the lines of "I'm working overtime to be a mariner, but it's easy for you, just go to the website and sign up as member, heres the details ... blah blah blah". If this isn't happening in the Central Coast area, I'd be asking questions of the clubs marketing staff. If it is happening, I'd be worried that the Mariners have less members this season than last season. They should be aiming for a significant increase with Bolt AND all of the other new players, especially McCormack and Oar. I know they've just signed, but it's been a few weeks of rumours.
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+xI'm surprised Mariners membership is lower this time than it was last year. Are they not using Bolt in local advertising? Did you hear that Bolt is training with the Mariners this year and most likely wont play? Shit! Wow! Really? I'm going to splash out over $200 and attend every game
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+x+xI'm surprised Mariners membership is lower this time than it was last year. Are they not using Bolt in local advertising? Did you hear that Bolt is training with the Mariners this year and most likely wont play? Shit! Wow! Really? I'm going to splash out over $200 and attend every game No but it is suprising given their recruiting, might pick up a bit after McCormack and Oar were announced.
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ErogenousZone
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+x+xI'm surprised Mariners membership is lower this time than it was last year. Are they not using Bolt in local advertising? Did you hear that Bolt is training with the Mariners this year and most likely wont play? Shit! Wow! Really? I'm going to splash out over $200 and attend every game It's funny coz it's true. :laugh:
Mariners can try the following amazing innovations to get people to their games. * Score some goals * Win some games * Have a decent coach * Not sign useless donkey's * Not be an administrative basketcase * Engage with the community ( which they do well truth be told ) It's not rocket science however that moron Charlesworth seems to think it is, perhaps this season might be different.
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Adelaide, Roar, City, Jets and Nix all up from one month prior to the corresponding seasons. Mariners, Victory, Glory, Victory and WSW all down.
Mariners down 22% from last year but apparently have experienced a jump in the last couple of days.
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+xAdelaide, Roar, City, Jets and Nix all up from one month prior to the corresponding seasons. Mariners, Victory, Glory, Victory and WSW all down. Mariners down 22% from last year but apparently have experienced a jump in the last couple of days. The CCM signings are exciting and causing a change. I didn't want to get a membership this year as I am not going to watch any game with Matt Simon on the team sheet. His re-signing marked a real low point in club ambition and the wrong culture. The latest few signings have me reconsidering.
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+x+xAdelaide, Roar, City, Jets and Nix all up from one month prior to the corresponding seasons. Mariners, Victory, Glory, Victory and WSW all down. Mariners down 22% from last year but apparently have experienced a jump in the last couple of days. The CCM signings are exciting and causing a change. I didn't want to get a membership this year as I am not going to watch any game with Matt Simon on the team sheet. His re-signing marked a real low point in club ambition and the wrong culture. The latest few signings have me reconsidering. Yea the latest signings have been great, its good they have drowned out Matt Simon and Bolt.
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+xI'm surprised Mariners membership is lower this time than it was last year. Are they not using Bolt in local advertising? Surely you'd have him on every local t.v, radio and newspaper with a gimmicky marketing strategy. You know, along the lines of "I'm working overtime to be a mariner, but it's easy for you, just go to the website and sign up as member, heres the details ... blah blah blah". If this isn't happening in the Central Coast area, I'd be asking questions of the clubs marketing staff. If it is happening, I'd be worried that the Mariners have less members this season than last season. They should be aiming for a significant increase with Bolt AND all of the other new players, especially McCormack and Oar. I know they've just signed, but it's been a few weeks of rumours. Holy fuck, it's almost as if stupid gimmicks for popcorn-punching retards don't actually help the A-league
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we are all wondering about whether there will be any promotion this year. with an extras 2 weeks til round 1, all teams can lift above the comparative numnbers if people know the season is actually starting soon.
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azzaMVFC
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Sydney win the league, best team of the past two seasons and are down by 2000 on membership numbers
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bruno
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+xSydney win the league, best team of the past two seasons and are down by 2000 on membership numbers Don't you think the location and fact they are playing at 3 different grounds would be a factor? If you know Sydney it is a pain in the arse travelling north to south [ Kogarah ]. I know a lot of people who will just attend the games that are convenient until the new home base is complete. Many of whom have held season tickets previously.
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+xSydney win the league, best team of the past two seasons and are down by 2000 on membership numbers Sydney now has a movable home, hence many are just turning up to the games instead of committing to whole season. I only changed my mine in the past week to get a full membership.
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Change the 18/19 figures over the next 2 weeks, but thought I would put together a chart of what the membership was at the start of the season, links provided as well. Note 18/19 & 17/18 season show in the chart the day before the season started. With 18/19 still with 3 weeks to add. Seasons 16/17, 15/16 & 14/15 show the total membership. The last line shows the season start numbers. PS no idea how to remove lines with the links below. | At Competition Start | | Total Membership | Club | 18/19 | 17/18 | | 16/17 | 15/16 | 14/15 | Adl Unt | 5,213 | 5,323 | | 10,099 | 8,720 | 9,505 | Br Roar | 6,856 | 6,258 | | 7,050 | 5,347 | 12,113 | Cen Mar | 3,509 | 5,256 | | 6,265 | 6,048 | 6,242 | Mel Cty | 7,618 | 9,386 | | 13,078 | 9,278 | 11,759 | Mel Vic | 21,354 | 24,025 | | 26,251 | 27,054 | 24,200 | New Jets | 7,806 | 7,542 | | 8,703 | 9,284 | 10,003 | Perth GL | 5,522 | 6,555 | | 8,644 | 7,109 | 6,298 | Syd FC | 9,771 | 12,122 | | 12,512 | 13,153 | 11,510 | Wel Nix | 3,592 | 4,200 | | 4,791 | 5,035 | 4,185 | Wet SyW | 14,909 | 16,365 | | 20,022 | 18,349 | 18,706 | | | | | | | | | 86,150 | 97,032 | | 117,415 | 109,377 | 114,521 | | | | | | | | Start of season Total | 97,032 | | 96,877 | 89,437 | 97,252 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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So you guys are saying that there's one season where the club will have to shift home games because a new stadium is being built, so fans will not renew their memberships? How on earth is that supporting your club?
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+xSo you guys are saying that there's one season where the club will have to shift home games because a new stadium is being built, so fans will not renew their memberships? How on earth is that supporting your club? Sydney people mate. If it dis-advantages them only slightly, it's a wrap.
He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.
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