TheSelectFew
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+x+x+xYes, and they've done a terrific job in trying to get back a little bit of relevance, but it remains a long, long way from where they were 25 years ago. NBL ratings are still well below HAL, yet according to the media they are undergoing a revival. what media? I know more about the new hockey one comp then i do about the nbl That's on you.
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+x+xYes, and they've done a terrific job in trying to get back a little bit of relevance, but it remains a long, long way from where they were 25 years ago. NBL ratings are still well below HAL, yet according to the media they are undergoing a revival. but one thing their sport has going for them is that the national team is more competitive than ours. From a below article, numbers aren't that different to HAL Free-to-air audiences for two matches per week on Channel Nine's 9GO are up 5 per cent this season. That equates to an average audience of 29,907, or an average reach of 158,969, but it should be pointed out that the two games are on a Saturday and Sunday afternoon. Fox Sports televises all matches, with an average audience of 12,482 and a reach of 45,278. https://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/on-the-rebound-nbl-looking-to-score-but-still-with-work-to-do-20190305-p511vq.html
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The_Wookie
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Football A-league averaging ratings finish the home and away season with an average of around 32,000 per game on Foxtel (112/135 matches reported).
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Feed_The_Brox
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so we have a few games around the 10,000 mark on foxtel late in the season and you think our averages aren't that much different to the NBL? intersting to note than NBL viewers only went up 5% and the scribes are saying they had a hugely successful season. +xFootball A-league averaging ratings finish the home and away season with an average of around 32,000 per game on Foxtel (112/135 matches reported). so the average foxtel viewers for HAL matches are higher than the NBL on FTA?
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AJF
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@Feed the brox, the numbers dont lie, this years ratings are worst on record and are at least 35% down on last year. The 32K average is BS as it doesnt count all the games and some were so low rating they didnt make any of the ratings lists.. Most alarming should be the trend and there is no sign of any improvement or even plateauing so comparisons whit NBL are relevant as that's where we are heading A-League season average on Fox Sports: 2005-2006 – 42,054 2006-2007 – 55,465 2007-2008 – 69,745 2008-2009 – 63,792 2009-2010 – 54,018 2010-2011 – 44,968 2011-2012 – 65,789 2012-2013 – 74,659 2013-2014 – 65,109 2014-2015 – 59,749 2015-2016 – 55,193 2016-2017 – 63,422 2017-2018 – 51,169
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+x@Feed the brox, the numbers dont lie, this years ratings are worst on record and are at least 35% down on last year. The 32K average is BS as it doesnt count all the games and some were so low rating they didnt make any of the ratings lists.. Most alarming should be the trend and there is no sign of any improvement or even plateauing so comparisons whit NBL are relevant as that's where we are heading A-League season average on Fox Sports: 2005-2006 – 42,054 2006-2007 – 55,465 2007-2008 – 69,745 2008-2009 – 63,792 2009-2010 – 54,018 2010-2011 – 44,968 2011-2012 – 65,789 2012-2013 – 74,659 2013-2014 – 65,109 2014-2015 – 59,749 2015-2016 – 55,193 2016-2017 – 63,422 2017-2018 – 51,169 Another slap in the face to the plastic HAL and the plastic HAL fanboi band-wagoners.
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+x@Feed the brox, the numbers dont lie, this years ratings are worst on record and are at least 35% down on last year. The 32K average is BS as it doesnt count all the games and some were so low rating they didnt make any of the ratings lists.. Most alarming should be the trend and there is no sign of any improvement or even plateauing so comparisons whit NBL are relevant as that's where we are heading i don't agree thats where we're heading. i think we've reached the bottom of the cliff and the slow ascent begins next season.
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The_Wookie
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+xso the average foxtel viewers for HAL matches are higher than the NBL on FTA? Couldnt say that definitively with almost 1/5th of all matches going unreported this year...if i had to guess Id say its on par or lower.
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TheRealFootballSupporter
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Gallop on SEN this morning said FTA numbers are up on last season, but Fox numbers obviously worrying. Also said my football app numbers were doing well
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TheSelectFew
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+xGallop on SEN this morning said FTA numbers are up on last season, but Fox numbers obviously worrying. Also said my football app numbers were doing well Bullshilit on FTA. Release the figures.
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Up 3% on 10 bold according to O'Rourke at FFA community summit
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AJF
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+xUp 3% on 10 bold according to O'Rourke at FFA community summit So based on last Saturday’s ratings, it’s gone up from 31K to 32K and FFA think that’s something to be proud of
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+xGallop on SEN this morning said FTA numbers are up on last season, but Fox numbers obviously worrying. Also said my football app numbers were doing well i listened to the podcast. i thought it was interesting. there was a bit of a discussion about foxtel and how they're in transition. ie. the popularity of streaming and the introduction of Kayo Sports. he's not wrong on this. its bloody infuriating that they don't release the streaming figures.
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+xUp 3% on 10 bold according to O'Rourke at FFA community summit 3% doesn't sound like much, but its still in complete contrast with foxtel numbers which dropped by about a third. imagine what ch 10 could do if they promoted the shit out of it? That might explain ch 10's interest.
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TheSelectFew
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+x+xUp 3% on 10 bold according to O'Rourke at FFA community summit 3% doesn't sound like much, but its still in complete contrast with foxtel numbers which dropped by about a third. imagine what ch 10 could do if they promoted the shit out of it? That might explain ch 10's interest. I am still shocked people watch FTA. Shocked.
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+x+xUp 3% on 10 bold according to O'Rourke at FFA community summit Imagine what ch 10 could do if they promoted the shit out of it? Probably the same as they could do for Scientology
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+x+xUp 3% on 10 bold according to O'Rourke at FFA community summit 3% doesn't sound like much, but its still in complete contrast with foxtel numbers which dropped by about a third. imagine what ch 10 could do if they promoted the shit out of it? That might explain ch 10's interest. It's the trends that count when deciding on future prospects, hence 10's escalated interest and Fox's declining interest.
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bluebird
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+x+x+xUp 3% on 10 bold according to O'Rourke at FFA community summit 3% doesn't sound like much, but its still in complete contrast with foxtel numbers which dropped by about a third. imagine what ch 10 could do if they promoted the shit out of it? That might explain ch 10's interest. It's the trends that count when deciding on future prospects, hence 10's escalated interest and Fox's declining interest. By trend do you mean a straight line between two points? Because the ratings figures are well below what they were the year before last
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Mvc v wel 22k Fox 35k (metro) 10 bold
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Had over 2500 tweets which is in line with most AFL games and was more than the Rugby League game(which had a crowd of 7000), so I'm starting to think that TV ratings are a load of shit.
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+xHad over 2500 tweets which is in line with most AFL games and was more than the Rugby League game(which had a crowd of 7000), so I'm starting to think that TV ratings are a load of shit. Traditional FTA and subscription TV is for people who get their weather from the newspaper.
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Or maybe the few viewers that are watching are constantly tweeting? Slice it up as you wish, that rating last night was diabolical.
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+xOr maybe the few viewers that are watching are constantly tweeting? Slice it up as you wish, that rating last night was diabolical. Why would so few viewers tweet at a higher rate than the 100's of thousands watching Rugby League? Why have TV ratings crashed but crowds and memberships remained relatively unchanged? I just don't think that ratings are giving us the complete picture and I don't think we should be reacting as a sport to TV ratings.
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+x+xOr maybe the few viewers that are watching are constantly tweeting? Slice it up as you wish, that rating last night was diabolical. Why would so few viewers tweet at a higher rate than the 100's of thousands watching Rugby League? Why have TV ratings crashed but crowds and memberships remained relatively unchanged? I just don't think that ratings are giving us the complete picture and I don't think we should be reacting as a sport to TV ratings. Agree with this. Doesn't mean we're out of the woods, but traditional TV figures no longer paint the full picture.
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It appears as though an extraordinarily high amount of A league tweets come from people who are actually at the games, was having a quick look last night and one bloke had tweeted about 20 times from AAMI Park commenting on every minor thing that popped into his head, afl/nrl fans are more likely to put the phone down and actually watch the sport. If the combination of fta and fox barely exceeded 50k last night the streaming services in all likelihood would have maxed out at about 5k..and I’m probably being generous.
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+x+xOr maybe the few viewers that are watching are constantly tweeting? Slice it up as you wish, that rating last night was diabolical. I just don't think that ratings are giving us the complete picture and I don't think we should be reacting as a sport to TV ratings. When there were only 5 TV stations with no Internet then the ratings system might have been closer to the truth. But people watch sport in a way that the ratings system doesnt reflect anymore I see the ratings system as a score instead of an actual "amount watching" figure. The score is translatable to other sports on TV (or previous seasons) but doesnt reflect social trends or actual viewers But having said that attendances are down from last season which was also a downward trend. Derbies are getting low attendances we havent seen before, and 16k to a final in Melbourne is part of that downward trend. Even WSW v MV managed 8k or whatever which was unprecedented The AFL / NRL model has done its dash. The sustained membership numbers show the extreme loyal are still loyal. But nearly everybody else has walked away
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+xIt appears as though an extraordinarily high amount of A league tweets come from people who are actually at the games, was having a quick look last night and one bloke had tweeted about 20 times from AAMI Park commenting on every minor thing that popped into his head, afl/nrl fans are more likely to put the phone down and actually watch the sport. If the combination of fta and fox barely exceeded 50k last night the streaming services in all likelihood would have maxed out at about 5k..and I’m probably being generous. Do you know this for a fact or are you just pulling anecdotal evidence out your arse to suit your narrative?
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+x+x+xOr maybe the few viewers that are watching are constantly tweeting? Slice it up as you wish, that rating last night was diabolical. I just don't think that ratings are giving us the complete picture and I don't think we should be reacting as a sport to TV ratings. When there were only 5 TV stations with no Internet then the ratings system might have been closer to the truth. But people watch sport in a way that the ratings system doesnt reflect anymore I see the ratings system as a score instead of an actual "amount watching" figure. The score is translatable to other sports on TV (or previous seasons) but doesnt reflect social trends or actual viewers But having said that attendances are down from last season which was also a downward trend. Derbies are getting low attendances we havent seen before, and 16k to a final in Melbourne is part of that downward trend. Even WSW v MV managed 8k or whatever which was unprecedented The AFL / NRL model has done its dash. The sustained membership numbers show the extreme loyal are still loyal. But nearly everybody else has walked away Nothing at all to do with the franchise closed top tier model of the A league. If this was the reason we have low ratings/crowds, then you would also expect that NRL/AFL would have low ratings/crowds, as they have the same model. The sooner we get away from this fallacy, the sooner we will be able to improve ratings/crowds and engagement.
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paladisious
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+x+x+x+xOr maybe the few viewers that are watching are constantly tweeting? Slice it up as you wish, that rating last night was diabolical. I just don't think that ratings are giving us the complete picture and I don't think we should be reacting as a sport to TV ratings. When there were only 5 TV stations with no Internet then the ratings system might have been closer to the truth. But people watch sport in a way that the ratings system doesnt reflect anymore I see the ratings system as a score instead of an actual "amount watching" figure. The score is translatable to other sports on TV (or previous seasons) but doesnt reflect social trends or actual viewers But having said that attendances are down from last season which was also a downward trend. Derbies are getting low attendances we havent seen before, and 16k to a final in Melbourne is part of that downward trend. Even WSW v MV managed 8k or whatever which was unprecedented The AFL / NRL model has done its dash. The sustained membership numbers show the extreme loyal are still loyal. But nearly everybody else has walked away Nothing at all to do with the franchise closed top tier model of the A league. If this was the reason we have low ratings/crowds, then you would also expect that NRL/AFL would have low ratings/crowds, as they have the same model. The sooner we get away from this fallacy, the sooner we will be able to improve ratings/crowds and engagement. AFL, NRL and football are all different. What works for one will not always work for the other.
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The 2 Aussie rules teams playing on the mcg at the moment were founded in 1858 and 1902 respectively, of course what works for Aussie rules with its flagship clubs being around for over a century and having generational support is not going to work for football.
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