bettega
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIts pay waved I cant read it. A-League clubs fear another season under FFA controlConcerns are mounting that soccer officials will fail to strike a deal to make the A-League independent of governing body Football Federation Australia by a June 30 deadline, with clubs and state federations at loggerheads. Clubs have warned, if they do not wrest control of the league, it could experience another season of declining popularity and put at risk future sponsorship and commercial deals. Western Sydney Wanderers chairman Paul Lederer, who is also the chairman of the clubs’ association, said it would be “catastrophic” for the A-League to experience another season under FFA management. The looming June 30 deadline has galvanised the sport’s state and member federations, who have the majority say in a vote on a deal and are determined to extract financial and corporate governance concessions from the clubs. Those include possible compensation flowing to the member federations, who are arguing for board representation on an independent league, a certain percentage of the league remaining owned by FFA and even club owners having to pay compensation to states when they sell their clubs. Other sticking points between the clubs and federations remain the share from the $346 million TV revenue from Fox Sports, which still has four seasons to run on the current deal, commercial rights, ownership of intellectual property, structure of the new competition and the relationship between professional clubs and the game’s grassroots. The states are also worried they will be left without access to future revenue streams once existing rights and sponsorship agreements expire. They want a portion of revenue to keep flowing to the wider game in the long-term. The demands have upset club owners, who have incurred $350m in losses since the A-League was established in 2005. They argue they deserve a bigger say in how the league is operated and that, by using their business acumen, can strike better sponsorship and broadcast deals and run the league more efficiently. Meetings involving the clubs, FFA, member federations and other stakeholders are set for next week, with the clubs imploring the parties to find common ground. “We all know it has to happen, so it should happen,” Wanderers chairman Paul Lederer says. “We need people to put aside ego and power. It is not worth thinking about the consequences if we don’t meet this deadline.” The clubs have argued they should take control over both their own and the league’s intellectual property for little or no compensation — a major sticking point for the states. The two sides are said to be a reasonable way off a deal, meaning the June 30 deadline agreed by FFA chairman Chris Nikou could come and go without an agreement being struck, leaving the FFA in charge of the next A-League either for the entire season or at least part of it. Professional Footballers’ Association chief executive John Didulica says the clubs and federations need to strike a deal: “We’ll never have a better opportunity to strike a deal that can genuinely balance the game’s objectives. Otherwise the losers will be the players and the fans.” Clubs claim the league cannot go through another season like 2018-19, which was hit by a small fall in attendances but a major drop in broadcast ratings on both Fox Sports and the Ten Network. Owners have implored the stakeholders to agree to a deal that would see the owners have control of the league and pay a percentage of revenue annually to FFA or the member federations. The A-League clubs wanted to retain 90 per cent of TV revenue, leaving FFA with 10 per cent. The head body was demanding as much as 18.5 per cent and has the support of a number of member federations who are reliant on financial support from FFA. The FFA board is believed to have moved closer to the position held by the clubs since former chairman Steven Lowy vacated the role last October. So the A-league clubs want 90% of the 56 million dollar a year tv rights money? So thats $5.6 million left for the FFA. So 50.4 million divided among the 10 A-league clubs or $5,000,000 for each Club. Salary cap this season is $2.9 million that means the club owners have $2.1 million left. Now.... will those A-league owners invest that money back into the club or pocket the money for themselves? Now imagine if you divide that 50.4 million into 12 teams. thats $4,200,000 per club. If it was 14 teams. Divide that 50.4 million into 14 teams and thats $3,600,000 per club. 3.6 million per club in a 14 team A-league.... Peronally I couldnt care less about the crowd drop. TV ratings is king. Look at Bournemouth in the EPL they have a 12,000 seat arena. Their biggest source of money is the 85-90 million pounds of tv rights money. There has also apparently been some concern that an independent HAL may well void the current rights deal, giving Foxtel an even quicker way out.The game will need to fond new avenues to boost revenue. In a sports market as crowded as ours though, that’s not going to be easy. I've read this a few times, just can't believe it's a legal possibility. It will depend on what’s in the contract. If there is a provision for the contract to be assigned to another party then there will be not problem. If there isn’t a provision then the Fox contract is with FFA only and cant be assigned to another party, particularly if new HAL company is a completely seperate entity. In all likely hood FFA didn’t envisage a split so there may not have been the allowance so Fox could by rights renegotiate with new owner of HAL. I can follow that, but the simple solution is to just keep the contract as is, and for the revenue sharing to be part of the new agreement.
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Waz
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Paul01
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Can't see why the state federations get a share of transfer fees. Especially the stumbling blocks like Northern NSW and NT ACT. The CEO should not be paid $1.2m per year. The Socceroos shpuld also have their salaries slashed because that money can be used for junior men's NT games in terms of air fares and camps.
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Waz
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+xCan't see why the state federations get a share of transfer fees. Especially the stumbling blocks like Northern NSW and NT ACT. The CEO should not be paid $1.2m per year. The Socceroos shpuld also have their salaries slashed because that money can be used for junior men's NT games in terms of air fares and camps. I guess that’s what you get in a give-take negotiation
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Glory Recruit
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Please get it done
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Heart_fan
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Did I misread it or did it say that the state federations will get money to pay for national youth teams? Isn’t that that the job of the FFA, not diverting funds to the state federations to then somehow channel that money to fund those teams.
As always, the devil will be in the detail. The transition phase will be interesting though, as clubs will still need to wait a few years to take full control. Will anything of value be left by then anyway?
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Wait, so everyone is now shit scared of losing Lowy's supposedly "awful" tv deal?
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+xWait, so everyone is now shit scared of losing Lowy's supposedly "awful" tv deal? Yes the FFA
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+xWait, so everyone is now shit scared of losing Lowy's supposedly "awful" tv deal? lol what else are you going to credit him for? 3 ply toilet paper @ HQ? -PB
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+x+xWait, so everyone is now shit scared of losing Lowy's supposedly "awful" tv deal? lol what else are you going to credit him for? 3 ply toilet paper @ HQ? -PB That’s burning the budget...
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bettega
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+xDid I misread it or did it say that the state federations will get money to pay for national youth teams? Isn’t that that the job of the FFA, not diverting funds to the state federations to then somehow channel that money to fund those teams. As always, the devil will be in the detail. The transition phase will be interesting though, as clubs will still need to wait a few years to take full control. Will anything of value be left by then anyway? I didn't understand that bit as well. Might be poorly expressed, maybe meant to say money for state feds AND national youth teams.
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+xWait, so everyone is now shit scared of losing Lowy's supposedly "awful" tv deal? Funny that
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So the state feds want 10% of every transfer that an aleague club makes with an overseas one? What about the clubs that helped developed that player how much of a percent they will get in return? Needs more clarity on that.
Also the state feds to fund the national youth teams spells of a dangerous precedent if conflict of interest with player selection might make this decision backfire in the future, surely it’s the job for the FFA?
Will they have to wait for full control till 2023? Or it just for the TV deal?
I guess the devil is in the detail, but it’s a good sign we are getting close to ending this empass.
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Heart_fan
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+xSo the state feds want 10% of every transfer that an aleague club makes with an overseas one? What about the clubs that helped developed that player how much of a percent they will get in return? Needs more clarity on that. Also the state feds to fund the national youth teams spells of a dangerous precedent if conflict of interest with player selection might make this decision backfire in the future, surely it’s the job for the FFA? Will they have to wait for full control till 2023? Or it just for the TV deal? I guess the devil is in the detail, but it’s a good sign we are getting close to ending this empass. I agree that the clubs that develop players deserve more money for their work. That would need a qualifier though to ensure that there are clear definitions on which party would get the money if the player had been at multiple clubs. The state federation getting the money if they haven’t had much direct responsibility for developing the player seems very far fetched.
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Tomorrow is July 1st 2019 when is this happening?
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Glory Recruit
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So the deadline is today right?
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This speech is, I think, fairly close to the hopes and dreams of our A-League's future (with my tongue only slightly in my cheek)..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoLywiaM6PA "Today is our Independence Day"
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A.Haak
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"Today is the day when it gets delayed for another 6 months pending another independent review of the independent review by an independent panel of independents"
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It's ridiculously quiet on this front. Considering this is one of the biggest changes to happen to the league since its inception, there's been zero noise. No rumours, no comments from anonymous sources. Pretty much just an article from Vince R 6 days ago saying that things were kind of on track.
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It's a done deal according to Vince Rugari on twitter. Details to be finalised by Aug1. Sorry i cant post links or any screenshots anymore using IOS.
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+xIt's a done deal according to Vince Rugari on twitter. Details to be finalised by Aug1. Sorry i cant post links or any screenshots anymore using IOS. Vince Rugari : Expect official news to drop in the next 30 mins to an hour but agreement has been reached on the independence of the #ALeague at last. The new deadline is August 1 to finalise the very last details but it’s viewed as a fait accompli. A brave new world beckons. https://twitter.com/VinceRugari/status/1145480573084823552?s=19
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Melbcityguy
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this is a bloody long time coming this opens up so many storylines
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who could be bothered reading all that.
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walnuts
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Well well well - pigs are flying!
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A.Haak
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- FFA to hold “Good of the Australian Game” rights and governance representation
- This makes me nervous as a Nix fan..
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A.Haak
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+xwho could be bothered reading all that. It's literally like 2-3 pages long..
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+x+xwho could be bothered reading all that. It's literally like 2-3 pages long.. at least something has been decided ....sounds promising..
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A.Haak
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+x+x+xwho could be bothered reading all that. It's literally like 2-3 pages long.. at least something has been decided ....sounds promising.. I am genuinely shocked that they've come to a consensus and have (mostly) stuck to the deadline. Well done.
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