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The clubs have also sacrificed their right to nominate three members of the FFA's Women's Council and will now just nominate one, with the other two now nominated "independently".

Lol wtf is that all about.

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paulbagzFC - 1 Jul 2019 11:57 AM
The clubs have also sacrificed their right to nominate three members of the FFA's Women's Council and will now just nominate one, with the other two now nominated "independently".

Lol wtf is that all about.

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Trying to appease the Feds concerns re block voting is my guess

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YUSSSSSSSS!! Wellington not getting the chop after all!!

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No more franchises under the new model it seems. All clubs to get 100% usage of their IP.
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"All the clubs will own their commercial rights, their trademarks,

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A pat on the back for the nuvo new dawn
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nomates - 1 Jul 2019 12:12 PM
YUSSSSSSSS!! Wellington not getting the chop after all!!

lol - nothing is changed. Just not dealt with at the moment.

It won't be long.


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Now that the owners' have control of the HAL, it will be interesting to see how they go with expansion and marketing. They've talked a big game, now it's time to put up.  For the sake of the League they need to deliver on their promises.

Hopefully the board hasn't short changed itself and has the funding in place for a decent program with the national teams.
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paulc - 1 Jul 2019 12:29 PM
nomates - 1 Jul 2019 12:12 PM

lol - nothing is changed. Just not dealt with at the moment.

It won't be long.

The 12 member clubs of APFCA are focused on completing the NLWG process and beginning the transformation process in earnest. Our members are committed to investing in and delivering the elevation of all three of our National Professional Leagues to the status they deserve and the levels that all of the stakeholders of our game rightfully expect. 


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FFA getting 10% of all international player transfers. I actually think it is a good thing, it will really encourage the FFA to develop high level players as it is now a revenue stream for them. Wonder if this means they will bring back theri COE in some form

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paulbagzFC - 1 Jul 2019 11:57 AM
The clubs have also sacrificed their right to nominate three members of the FFA's Women's Council and will now just nominate one, with the other two now nominated "independently".

Lol wtf is that all about.

-PB

It was a requirement they agreed to to get the constitution through congress last year.
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The 12 member clubs of APFCA are focused on completing the NLWG process and beginning the transformation process in earnest. Our members are committed to investing in and delivering the elevation of all three of our National Professional Leagues to the status they deserve and the levels that all of the stakeholders of our game rightfully expect. 

Exactly. If independence comes in for the 19/20 season it means that the Nix automatically become a league shareholder just like every other HAL club. That means, that in order to remove them they would need to be voted out by the other shareholders or be found to be in some sort of major breach of the licencing agreement. It looks like the Nix are here to stay, unless they use this opportunity to sell the licence to an Australian club, which could be far easier under the independent model.
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nomates - 1 Jul 2019 12:12 PM
YUSSSSSSSS!! Wellington not getting the chop after all!!

I would have thought 11 other clubs have a vote , if they decide metrics not met ( and they perceive a world without them is more commercially viable ) than adios muchachos. 
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StiflersMom - 1 Jul 2019 12:47 PM
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I would have thought 11 other clubs have a vote , if they decide metrics not met ( and they perceive a world without them is more commercially viable ) than adios muchachos. 

Technically correct, but the clubs aren't the ones that want the Nix out. 
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What does this mean for expansion? Can this be fastracked now? Or still confined by Fox unless the bidders are willing to self fund?
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i want to see clubs put more effort in marketing now 
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CHEP - 1 Jul 2019 12:59 PM
What does this mean for expansion? Can this be fastracked now? Or still confined by Fox unless the bidders are willing to self fund?

Conversely, expansion can also be slowed by the existing clubs.  Effectively in their hands.
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Not my area of expertise but looks good to me, after a lot of naysayers.

I would say Wellington are safe, the clubs have always been on their side.
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Melbcityguy - 1 Jul 2019 1:00 PM
i want to see clubs put more effort in marketing now 

I think initially we'll almost certainly see brand new websites for most if not all clubs, especially the bigger clubs. We'll probably see a major shift in merchandising now that the clubs will receive all of the profits. I remember hearing that the clubs only receive $10 for every jersey they sell due to the franchising agreement.

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someguyjc - 1 Jul 2019 12:50 PM
Technically correct, but the clubs aren't the ones that want the Nix out. 

How do you know that? We keep hearing its the states that want them out, but do we know for sure they are the only ones? If they are not pulling their weight, there still appears to be out options under the new model. 
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LFC. - 1 Jul 2019 12:24 PM
"All the clubs will own their commercial rights, their trademarks,

Excellent news. 

Not sure what some of the haters are going to do once this happens.

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someguyjc - 1 Jul 2019 1:17 PM
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I think initially we'll almost certainly see brand new websites for most if not all clubs, especially the bigger clubs. We'll probably see a major shift in merchandising now that the clubs will receive all of the profits. I remember hearing that the clubs only receive $10 for every jersey they sell due to the franchising agreement.

Just out of curiosity are they still considered “franchises” after this deal is done?
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someguyjc - 1 Jul 2019 1:17 PM
Melbcityguy - 1 Jul 2019 1:00 PM

I think initially we'll almost certainly see brand new websites for most if not all clubs, especially the bigger clubs. We'll probably see a major shift in merchandising now that the clubs will receive all of the profits. I remember hearing that the clubs only receive $10 for every jersey they sell due to the franchising agreement.

yeah bozza said that 
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someguyjc - 1 Jul 2019 12:50 PM

How do you know that? We keep hearing its the states that want them out, but do we know for sure they are the only ones? If they are not pulling their weight, there still appears to be out options under the new model. 

The clubs have come out in writing twice saying that the Phoenix have a long term future in the competition and they're unanimous on this. They also voted Rob Morison (Phoenix chairman) as one of two representatives to negotiate on behalf of all the clubs with the FFA. The Phoenix through Rob have been at the table the whole way through this and negotiated this deal on behalf of the teams.

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Feed_The_Brox - 1 Jul 2019 1:18 PM
someguyjc - 1 Jul 2019 12:50 PM

How do you know that? We keep hearing its the states that want them out, but do we know for sure they are the only ones? If they are not pulling their weight, there still appears to be out options under the new model. 

The APFCA speaks for the clubs and they have continually said they want the Nix in.
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This is the good news we desperately needed.  It was such a counter logical system, expecting owners to invest endlessly in something they didn't own.

We might see some interesting action on the marquee player front now from the bigger clubs.

Plus the salary cap may be out the door soon, I hope.

On the Nix issue, we need more clubs, not less.  Rather than getting rid of Wellington, I think it is far more likely that the new A League will look to support Wellington and the League with another club in Auckland.  A NZ derby would be huge over there.  The biggest problem we have is our small population size, which limits the competition.  Anyone who suggests ditching the Nix is suggesting cutting loose a market of 4 million people.  That would simply be nonsensical, and it won't happen.
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someguyjc - 1 Jul 2019 1:28 PM
Feed_The_Brox - 1 Jul 2019 1:18 PM

The APFCA speaks for the clubs and they have continually said they want the Nix in.

Yep Nix staying long term is pretty much a done deal. Hope we get to build a new stadium now.


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jaymz - 1 Jul 2019 12:38 PM
FFA getting 10% of all international player transfers. I actually think it is a good thing, it will really encourage the FFA to develop high level players as it is now a revenue stream for them. Wonder if this means they will bring back theri COE in some form

I am not sure why they deserve anything. How is the FFA involved in the development of a player and even the sale of a player. In any case I am wondering what if we had a transfer system in Australia, which is long over due. The FFA doesn't get a cut of that I am presuming (which they shouldn't). Why should we treat transfers differently if they are domestic or International? Discuss.







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I am not sure why they deserve anything. How is the FFA involved in the development of a player and even the sale of a player. In any case I am wondering what if we had a transfer system in Australia, which is long over due. The FFA doesn't get a cut of that I am presuming (which they shouldn't). Why should we treat transfers differently if they are domestic or International? Discuss.

As the head of the gargantuan multi headed monster that is football in Australia, the FFA put in place the parameters under which all teams and Leagues operate. Therefore the machinery of the existence of the HAL and State Federations NPL's etc etc etc.From this it is reasonable that they collect on selling by the clubs of players to regimes outside their purview. As said above, a good and novel way of ensuring an income stream for the future for the FFA to support the lower leagues as well as the National Teams.
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paulc - 1 Jul 2019 12:29 PM

The 12 member clubs of APFCA are focused on completing the NLWG process and beginning the transformation process in earnest. Our members are committed to investing in and delivering the elevation of all three of our National Professional Leagues to the status they deserve and the levels that all of the stakeholders of our game rightfully expect. 

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