The is again similar  to  the bowling thread of all time wicket takers in Test cricket history.

Can someone post a table with the top 30 odd run scorers in Test cricket, please?

Cheers

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Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	100	50	0
SR Tendulkar (INDIA)	1989-2013	200	329	33	15921	248*	53.78	51	68	14
RT Ponting (AUS)	1995-2012	168	287	29	13378	257	51.85	41	62	17
JH Kallis (ICC/SA)	1995-2013	166	280	40	13289	224	55.37	45	58	16
R Dravid (ICC/INDIA)	1996-2012	164	286	32	13288	270	52.31	36	63	8
AN Cook (ENG)	2006-2018	161	291	16	12472	294	45.35	33	57	9
KC Sangakkara (SL)	2000-2015	134	233	17	12400	319	57.40	38	52	11
BC Lara (ICC/WI)	1990-2006	131	232	6	11953	400*	52.88	34	48	17
S Chanderpaul (WI)	1994-2015	164	280	49	11867	203*	51.37	30	66	15
DPMD Jayawardene (SL)	1997-2014	149	252	15	11814	374	49.84	34	50	15
AR Border (AUS)	1978-1994	156	265	44	11174	205	50.56	27	63	11
SR Waugh (AUS)	1985-2004	168	260	46	10927	200	51.06	32	50	22
SM Gavaskar (INDIA)	1971-1987	125	214	16	10122	236*	51.12	34	45	12
Younis Khan (PAK)	2000-2017	118	213	19	10099	313	52.05	34	33	19
HM Amla (SA)	2004-2019	124	215	16	9282	311*	46.64	28	41	13
GC Smith (ICC/SA)	2002-2014	117	205	13	9265	277	48.25	27	38	11
GA Gooch (ENG)	1975-1995	118	215	6	8900	333	42.58	20	46	13
Javed Miandad (PAK)	1976-1993	124	189	21	8832	280*	52.57	23	43	6
Inzamam-ul-Haq (ICC/PAK)	1992-2007	120	200	22	8830	329	49.60	25	46	15
VVS Laxman (INDIA)	1996-2012	134	225	34	8781	281	45.97	17	56	14
AB de Villiers (SA)	2004-2018	114	191	18	8765	278*	50.66	22	46	8
MJ Clarke (AUS)	2004-2015	115	198	22	8643	329*	49.10	28	27	9
ML Hayden (AUS)	1994-2009	103	184	14	8625	380	50.73	30	29	14
V Sehwag (ICC/INDIA)	2001-2013	104	180	6	8586	319	49.34	23	32	16
IVA Richards (WI)	1974-1991	121	182	12	8540	291	50.23	24	45	10
AJ Stewart (ENG)	1990-2003	133	235	21	8463	190	39.54	15	45	14
DI Gower (ENG)	1978-1992	117	204	18	8231	215	44.25	18	39	7
KP Pietersen (ENG)	2005-2014	104	181	8	8181	227	47.28	23	35	10
G Boycott (ENG)	1964-1982	108	193	23	8114	246*	47.72	22	42	10
GS Sobers (WI)	1954-1974	93	160	21	8032	365*	57.78	26	30	12
ME Waugh (AUS)	1991-2002	128	209	17	8029	153*	41.81	20	47	19
MA Atherton (ENG)	1989-2001	115	212	7	7728	185*	37.69	16	46	20
IR Bell (ENG)	2004-2015	118	205	24	7727	235	42.69	22	46	14
JL Langer (AUS)	1993-2007	105	182	12	7696	250	45.27	23	30	11
MC Cowdrey (ENG)	1954-1975	114	188	15	7624	182	44.06	22	38	9
CG Greenidge (WI)	1974-1991	108	185	16	7558	226	44.72	19	34	11
Mohammad Yousuf (PAK)	1998-2010	90	156	12	7530	223	52.29	24	33	11
MA Taylor (AUS)	1989-1999	104	186	13	7525	334*	43.49	19	40	5
CH Lloyd (WI)	1966-1985	110	175	14	7515	242*	46.67	19	39	4
DL Haynes (WI)	1978-1994	116	202	25	7487	184	42.29	18	39	10
DC Boon (AUS)	1984-1996	107	190	20	7422	200	43.65	21	32	16
G Kirsten (SA)	1993-2004	101	176	15	7289	275	45.27	21	34	13
WR Hammond (ENG)	1927-1947	85	140	16	7249	336*	58.45	22	24	4
CH Gayle (WI)	2000-2014	103	182	11	7214	333	42.18	15	37	15
SC Ganguly (INDIA)	1996-2008	113	188	17	7212	239	42.17	16	35	13
SP Fleming (NZ)	1994-2008	111	189	10	7172	274*	40.06	9	46	16
GS Chappell (AUS)	1970-1984	87	151	19	7110	247*	53.86	24	31	12
JE Root (ENG)	2012-2019	86	159	12	7043	254	47.91	16	45	8
AJ Strauss (ENG)	2004-2012	100	178	6	7037	177	40.91	21	27	15
DG Bradman (AUS)	1928-1948	52	80	10	6996	334	99.94	29	13	7
SPD Smith (AUS)	2010-2019	68	124	16	6973	239	64.56	26	27	4
ST Jayasuriya (SL)	1991-2007	110	188	14	6973	340	40.07	14	31	15
L Hutton (ENG)	1937-1955	79	138	15	6971	364	56.67	19	33	5
DB Vengsarkar (INDIA)	1976-1992	116	185	22	6868	166	42.13	17	35	15
LRPL Taylor (NZ)	2007-2019	94	166	19	6839	290	46.52	18	31	14
KF Barrington (ENG)	1955-1968	82	131	15	6806	256	58.67	20	35	5
V Kohli (INDIA)	2011-2019	79	135	8	6749	243	53.14	25	22	9
GP Thorpe (ENG)	1993-2005	100	179	28	6744	200*	44.66	16	39	12
DA Warner (AUS)	2011-2019	79	147	5	6458	253	45.47	21	30	9
BB McCullum (NZ)	2004-2016	101	176	9	6453	302	38.64	12	31	14
PA de Silva (SL)	1984-2002	93	159	11	6361	267	42.97	20	22	7
MEK Hussey (AUS)	2005-2013	79	137	16	6235	195	51.52	19	29	12
RB Kanhai (WI)	1957-1974	79	137	6	6227	256	47.53	15	28	7
M Azharuddin (INDIA)	1984-2000	99	147	9	6215	199	45.03	22	21	5
HH Gibbs (SA)	1996-2008	90	154	7	6167	228	41.95	14	26	11
KS Williamson (NZ)	2010-2019	74	130	12	6163	242*	52.22	20	30	8
RN Harvey (AUS)	1948-1963	79	137	10	6149	205	48.41	21	24	7
GR Viswanath (INDIA)	1969-1983	91	155	10	6080	222	41.93	14	35	10
RB Richardson (WI)	1983-1995	86	146	12	5949	194	44.39	16	27	8
RR Sarwan (WI)	2000-2011	87	154	8	5842	291	40.01	15	31	12
ME Trescothick (ENG)	2000-2006	76	143	10	5825	219	43.79	14	29	12
DCS Compton (ENG)	1937-1957	78	131	15	5807	278	50.06	17	28	10
Saleem Malik (PAK)	1982-1999	103	154	22	5768	237	43.69	15	29	12
N Hussain (ENG)	1990-2004	96	171	16	5764	207	37.18	14	33	14
CL Hooper (WI)	1987-2002	102	173	15	5762	233	36.46	13	27	13
MP Vaughan (ENG)	1999-2008	82	147	9	5719	197	41.44	18	18	9
Azhar Ali (PAK)	2010-2019	73	139	8	5669	302*	43.27	15	31	13
AD Mathews (SL)	2009-2019	82	148	21	5641	160	44.41	9	34	2
AC Gilchrist (AUS)	1999-2008	96	137	20	5570	204*	47.60	17	26	14
MV Boucher (ICC/SA)	1997-2012	147	206	24	5515	125	30.30	5	35	17
MS Atapattu (SL)	1990-2007	90	156	15	5502	249	39.02	16	17	22
TM Dilshan (SL)	1999-2013	87	145	11	5492	193	40.98	16	23	14
CA Pujara (INDIA)	2010-2019	70	118	8	5486	206*	49.87	18	20	6
TT Samaraweera (SL)	2001-2013	81	132	20	5462	231	48.76	14	30	11
MD Crowe (NZ)	1982-1995	77	131	11	5444	299	45.36	17	18	9
JB Hobbs (ENG)	1908-1930	61	102	7	5410	211	56.94	15	28	4
KD Walters (AUS)	1965-1981	74	125	14	5357	250	48.26	15	33	4
IM Chappell (AUS)	1964-1980	75	136	10	5345	196	42.42	14	26	11
JG Wright (NZ)	1978-1993	82	148	7	5334	185	37.82	12	23	7
MJ Slater (AUS)	1993-2001	74	131	7	5312	219	42.83	14	21	9
N Kapil Dev (INDIA)	1978-1994	131	184	15	5248	163	31.05	8	27	16
WM Lawry (AUS)	1961-1971	67	123	12	5234	210	47.15	13	27	6
Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK)	2001-2017	75	132	20	5222	161*	46.62	10	39	9
IT Botham (ENG)	1977-1992	102	161	6	5200	208	33.54	14	22	14
JH Edrich (ENG)	1963-1976	77	127	9	5138	310*	43.54	12	24	6
A Ranatunga (SL)	1982-2000	93	155	12	5105	135*	35.69	4	38	12
Zaheer Abbas (PAK)	1969-1985	78	124	11	5062	274	44.79	12	20	10

Unlike the bowling list, most of these guys are retired. You have to get down to Root to find a current player - unless you think Ian Bell will ever get a recall. But the run fests of the 2000's combined with more test matches in that era figure prominently. 

With Cook's somewhat premature retirement, Root is in the best position to run down Tendulkar - given he is only 28, and England will play more tests than India for Kohli, or Aus for Smith. But the latter two have hit 30 already.

The current crop of feeble English batting should give Root the opportunity for 2 innings a game more often than not too.

Smith has to have 10,000 runs covered by his 100th test. Question is will still be around to take down Ponting's 13,378.

It is a bit of a shame these batting lists don't have strike rates.

The bowlers' list did.

To compare Kallis and Ponting, I'd surmise Ponting scored  his runs more quickly, but he may have been advantaged playing on Aussie pitches.

I cant get you the list with SR if you want. But Ponting drove on the up, and pulled anything he wanted. Kallis was dour. One of the most dour ever.  Ponting will be Kallis on SR. Its 58 to 45 - I confirmed already.

With batters scoring 7500 to 8500 runs, Mike Atherton and Alex Stewart are the only batters  with averages below 40.

This applies to about 20 odd batters below them in Test rankings and all batters ranked above.

England plays the most tests. Then the rest of the rich 3 and  SL... its gonna happen...

Even though Ponting is a favourite son in Tassie, but definitely not mine, as he chose to leave the state early in his career, I thought with DRS he would have been out a lot more than he was early on his innings. I thought he received a lot of favourable LBW decisions early on in his innings, particularly at home in Aus.

Of course he was a terrific batter when he got his eye in though, but he was a  shaky starter. Another poster  suggested  that his batting average dropped markedly in his last few years, whereas Kallis' didn't.

I was looking at that.

I think they average close to 12 Tests per year!

Ponting's did - once Aus became less of a force from 2007 retirements -  he did also. Kallis retired prematurely on the flip side, he basically had one bad home season and said - Im playing t20 guys - cya. The money gulf between the rich 3 and everyone else is huge. There is no financial motivation to play intl cricket if you are a star and not playing for In, Eng or Aus when you can play t20 instead....

Money comes into it. Rich 3 countries can keep their players longer.... 

I'm surprised that three batsmen, Tendulkar (51), Kallis (45), and Ponting (41), have all scored  over 40 centuries each?

One of them, Tendulkar, scored  over 50 test centuries! 

Kane Williamson has a big average  of 52, but has only scored 20 centuries after about 74 tests.

 I  reckoned he would've scored more tons at his stage of his career with that big average.

VVS Laxman had a pretty poor conversion rate. 56 fifties and only 17 tons. What was his story? According to wikipedia, he got stuck with tail-enders a lot....

He has been playing since 2010. He started very young. NZ dont play many tests. And he has not missed one - first time he was going to - the match was called off due tot hat shooting in the same city....

KW is undeniably the best thing to happen to NZ cricket since Hadlee, if not ever...

What I find funnier is his 4's (666) to 6's (14) ratio....

When Indian fans start a thread about Smith vs Kohli:

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Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
SPD Smith (AUS)	2014-2019	52	93	13	6003	239	75.03	10361	57.93	24	22	3	675	29
KS Williamson (NZ)	2014-2019	45	78	10	4369	242*	64.25	7675	56.92	16	18	3	478	11
KK Nair (INDIA)	2016-2017	6	7	1	374	303*	62.33	506	73.91	1	0	1	41	4
AC Voges (AUS)	2015-2016	20	31	7	1485	269*	61.87	2667	55.68	5	4	2	186	5
KC Sangakkara (SL)	2014-2015	16	31	1	1843	319	61.43	3323	55.46	5	9	2	192	15
DPMD Jayawardene (SL)	2014-2014	10	18	1	1003	203*	59.00	1973	50.83	3	5	1	105	8
DAS Gunaratne (SL)	2016-2017	6	10	2	455	116	56.87	861	52.84	1	3	1	50	1
V Kohli (INDIA)	2014-2019	57	98	5	5242	243	56.36	8764	59.81	20	14	7	568	13
Younis Khan (PAK)	2014-2017	31	59	5	2836	218	52.51	5400	52.51	11	6	4	261	26
BB McCullum (NZ)	2014-2016	19	35	1	1769	302	52.02	2280	77.58	5	3	3	209	48
KJ O'Brien (IRE)	2018-2019	3	6	1	258	118	51.60	467	55.24	1	1	0	29	0
JE Root (ENG)	2014-2019	71	130	9	6088	254	50.31	10464	58.18	14	41	7	693	16

Yeah right....

Was there a better player of pace around when Ponting was at his best? 

Though if it wasn't obvious earlier, his decline seemed obvious when the Windies toured in 2010? and Kemar Roach worked him over good (somehow always seemed a very under rated bowler). It was sad to see his refusal not to go after the pull/hook, despite no longer being good enough. As well as a front pad problem that got worse. An Aussie great, that played on for a couple of years to long.

Ponting, Kallis, Sachin and Lara had no issues with pace really. Dravid was dour. Personally, I used to love Sanga bat the most of all who got some shocking umpiring decisions regularly... YK is the one everyone forgets about. He was ungainly, but effective, and possibly the best under pressure in a 4th, even better than Lara.

Inviting discussion again Paddles lol?

I don't disagree, yet there was something almost majestic about Ponting to fast bowling, in the right fast bouncy (generally Aussie) conditions.

Kemar seems to have little problem with bigging himself up, more than a little truth to it though. He did retire Ponting hurt (first time in his career?). He came in at no 9 next day and got a few (awful lot of top edges though lol) to be eventually out fending an absolute beauty to short leg. Fast bowlers  seemed to lose fear of him after that. Seemed almost a walking wicket at times via the pull/hook shot. It was quite a decline.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/west-indies-firebrand-kemar-roach-says-started-ricky-pontings-long-spiral-towards-test-retirement/news-story/3c9c042e582d95caa287545da039d3b0?sv=15cba288f5866bc78222735dc474d1a3

No, not inviting convo, Kemar is still playing. Him and and Holder are both in the top 10 bowlers. And I am stilll not calling the WI attack world class yes neither.... Let alone Aus... But if I were to you directly, it was Kallis that ended Ponting's career... and you can youtube it... but you know so much already... so you should know this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97jPHb53XA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUFWL_wWd0w

Then and there - Ricky knew he was cooked. It's pretty much common knowledge among real cricket fans...

Come on Paddles, I never really claimed any of those things. Only that Kemar towelling him up made it obvious he was in decline. Fast bowlers were lining up for him after that.

I don't know how you deduced any of that, from what I said? Not calling the Windies a world class attack? Good for you but who cares and how is it relevant to anything I posted here lol?

He was "gone to Gowings" long before Kallis made him look silly. That was simply the point where he could no longer avoid what had been obvious for several years. Either that, or it was the point where the selectors had a little chat, depending what you wish to believe.

I dont call the Windies attack world class, and just like NZ, which I dont call world class neither, they have TWO bowlers in the top 10 whereas your World class Australian attack has ONE. Clearly a problem with the stats there.

We all know (real cricket fans) when the INdian attack announced themselves, but this Aus attack when exactly did they do it again? Losing in SA? Was that when? (We all know what happened there). Losing at home to SA? Losing in UAE perhaps? Losing to SL away? Losing to India at home? When was it again? I'm confused. And biased. And antipathetic. And illogical. And every other name you called me to explain why your Aus team is 5th with the worlds best batsman....

You drew a series with no Cook, and no Anderson in England you think your bowlers are world class... Stokes doesn't even average 36 and he pummeled you all series.... and I'm bias and illogical.... Yeah okay... Maybe the Aus attack could be world class if they had Broad :).... (that's sarcasm in case you didn't realise)...

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Team	Players	Span	Mat	Runs	HS	Bat Av	100	Wkts	BBI	Bowl Av	5	Ct	St	Ave Diff
South Africa	23	2017-2019	21	9948	199	27.94	16	389	9/129	23.36	15	263	4	4.58
India	25	2017-2019	23	11915	243	34.33	32	413	6/27	23.98	15	244	5	10.35
Pakistan	25	2017-2019	16	7281	147	26.47	9	285	8/41	25.60	16	153	4	0.87
Afghanistan	17	2018-2019	3	1249	102	23.56	1	49	6/49	25.97	3	20	1	-2.41
New Zealand	17	2017-2019	13	6810	264*	39.59	17	224	7/39	26.70	10	156	2	12.89
Australia	30	2017-2019	24	11598	239	30.28	21	417	7/94	29.19	16	295	7	1.09
England	33	2017-2019	33	16079	244*	27.57	21	543	7/42	29.28	19	331	10	-1.70
Ireland	17	2018-2019	3	1101	118	18.35	1	44	5/13	29.29	1	25	1	-10.94
West Indies	26	2017-2019	24	10054	202*	23.38	14	377	8/60	29.78	14	222	3	-6.40
Sri Lanka	31	2017-2019	27	12578	196	26.25	18	405	6/32	35.51	19	248	15	-9.25
Bangladesh	31	2017-2019	15	6454	219*	23.21	10	210	7/58	35.95	12	111	8	-12.73
Zimbabwe	22	2017-2018	6	2902	160	25.23	5	84	5/71	36.34	3	53

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South Africa	27	2016-2019	32	15322	199	29.80	28	558	9/129	23.53	23	374	7	6.26
India	29	2016-2019	40	21049	303*	37.58	55	709	7/48	25.48	30	407	10	12.09
Afghanistan	17	2018-2019	3	1249	102	23.56	1	49	6/49	25.97	3	20	1	-2.41
New Zealand	24	2016-2019	27	12979	264*	36.35	29	448	7/39	29.00	15	308	3	7.34
Ireland	17	2018-2019	3	1101	118	18.35	1	44	5/13	29.29	1	25	1	-10.94
Australia	36	2016-2019	37	17917	239	29.61	35	635	8/50	29.49	25	433	13	0.12
England	40	2016-2019	47	23759	254	29.04	33	766	7/42	30.28	26	488	14	-1.23
Pakistan	32	2016-2019	28	13531	302*	27.67	18	460	8/41	31.11	23	262	4	-3.44
West Indies	30	2016-2019	31	13045	202*	24.02	17	454	8/49	32.26	19	268	6	-8.23
Sri Lanka	33	2016-2019	40	19215	196	26.76	32	616	8/63	33.87	28	363	22	-7.10
Bangladesh	32	2016-2019	22	10343	219*	25.16	15	316	7/58	37.43	16	169	9	-12.27
Zimbabwe	27	2016-2018	10	4816	160	24.69	8	130	5/71	44.87	3	87	4	-20.17

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From when exactly is this Aus attack world class? Because this is what happens to India's post Bumrah...

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Team	Players	Span	Mat	Runs	HS	Bat Av	100	Wkts	BBI	Bowl Av	5	Ct	St	Ave Diff
India	24	2018-2019	17	8154	193	29.22	18	306	6/27	23.29	13	182	3	5.93
South Africa	19	2018-2019	14	6427	152	25.20	8	254	9/129	23.58	11	183	2	1.61
Pakistan	21	2018-2019	11	4932	147	26.80	6	186	8/41	25.72	9	98	3	1.07
Afghanistan	17	2018-2019	3	1249	102	23.56	1	49	6/49	25.97	3	20	1	-2.41
West Indies	23	2018-2019	14	5528	202*	22.47	7	229	8/60	26.51	11	133	1	-4.03
New Zealand	16	2018-2019	11	5688	264*	39.22	14	186	6/30	27.55	9	130	2	11.67
England	28	2018-2019	22	10425	147	26.19	13	364	6/17	28.52	11	222	8	-2.33
Ireland	17	2018-2019	3	1101	118	18.35	1	44	5/13	29.29	1	25	1	-10.94
Australia	25	2018-2019	18	8437	211	28.21	13	310	6/23	29.94	11	223	3	-1.73
Sri Lanka	26	2018-2019	18	8030	196	25.57	11	278	6/32	31.83	12	173	7	-6.26
Zimbabwe	12	2018-2018	2	966	110	25.42	2	32	5/71	31.87	1	23	0	-6.45
Bangladesh	27	2018-2019	11	4863	219*	24.56	10	167	7/58	32.07	10	89	6	-7.51

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So I really don't get it....

It is an interesting article where Roach claimed Pointing's aura disappeared after that blow.

There seems to be some validity to Roach's claim.  Ponting had a Test average of 55 before it occurred. He averaged 36 in the 30 Tests he played  after Roach forced  Ponting's first  Retired Hurt.

I always thought Pointing was a scratchy starter too. Conversely, when Lara and Tendulkar walked to the wicket against Australia, they usually seemed difficult to dismiss from the time they faced the first ball when playing either at home or away.

In terms of technique there is a  former Tassie vice captain and state selector who I know in the TCA members. He can identify technical faults with almost any batter one asks him about. He struggles to find anything wrong in Kane Williamson's technique though.

Baggers will meet him in about five weeks! 

Nothing wrong with KW's technique but he has a statistical weakness against seam bowlers compared to Kohli and Smith. KW is actually the best at playing spin. Smith's one weakness is left arm spin. 

KW is only averaging 39 against the quicks, and it really is inexplicable to me, seeing he absolutely punished Aus in Aus in 2015, he starred saving a test NZ against peak Steyn and co, he tamed Abbas in UAE, I mean he makes runs everywhere he goes typically. There is no particular mode of dismissal, he just finds ways to get out to them (though his dab shot to third man in limited overs cricket is becoming a concern). I think when Taylor retires, it would be nice for KW to be protected from the new ball at 4, and move down from 3.

Technique is not a be all and end all, though really. Sangakarra and Williamson may look purely textbook, and noone would earlier teach someone to bat like Smith, but it works. AbdV had very little foot movement compared tot he textbook, and again it worked for him. Henry Nicholls has glaring technical issues, but he has learned to put away his straight drives and not even attempt to play in the V until past 50, and even then rarely. The problem for him he still has a huge gap between bat and pad though that I have seen him bowled through  far too often. That needs to be remedied. The textbook thinking was always to play in the V, but the likes of A Border (square) and Viv Richards (onside slogging) really challenged that notion. Richards would slog endlessly to the legside from outside off. Basically doing a similar strategy to Smith, but Richards would go for big boundary shots.

Latham on the other hand, is technically sound, but silly. He goes for cover drives against a new ball and nicks off to swing and nibble, and inexplicably chips the ball straight to leg side fielders. Almost every team sets a man for him there now. There's nothing wrong with the shots, he is just playing them at the wrong time. He's not an opening batsman, but that is where the vacancy in the team was, so he is stuck there for now. I'd like to see him be our test keeper when Watling retires and bat 6. Taylor looks classical on the offside, and terrible on the on side. But he looks to play straight or cut the wide ball, and saves the onside for hitting out, when it is very much his goto. You know when he is in trouble against the spinners, he immediately goes to the sweep shot.

Another interesting stat is when one compares Sangkakarra, a player I've hardly seen, with Lara. Their record is similar, with Sangakarra having a bigger average, with each having played 134 and 131 innings respectively.

Yet Lara is always touted as a great.

As an Aussie supporter I have watched Lara bat a lot. He always looked really good from the moment he arrived at the wicket and didn't look like getting out, until he  was dismissed. He was a real thorn in our side.

Sangkarra must be very good with that huge average from 134 Test innings. 

Any expert cricket boffin opinions on this?

Paddles?

Baggers?

Grazor?

Wow!

KW finds ways to get out, like Tim Paine.

Can't believe KW only has an average against of 39 against quicks?

I watched him hammer Aussie pace bowlers around in the last Test series he was here.

Sangakarra emerged twice. When Sangakarra debut'd, there was already a Lara and Tendulkar thing going on since 1994 or even before. This is the year Tendulkar started oepning in ODI, and Lara scored 375 in test and 500 in County. S Waugh then joins this group by the end of the century.

Problem for Sanga is he was a wicket keeper batting at 3. Tendulkar hid down at 4. Kumar played 48 games as wicket keeper and averaged a respectable 40. As a batsman - he played 86 games and averaged 67. This is Sanga's record as a batsman only:

Career summary

Grouping	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
v Australia	2004-2012	7	13	1	764	192	63.66	1604	47.63	1	7	0	96	1
v Bangladesh	2002-2014	10	15	2	1612	319	124.00	2646	60.92	7	5	0	178	15
v England	2007-2014	10	18	0	852	152	47.33	1764	48.29	3	4	2	106	0
v India	2008-2015	11	19	1	1032	219	57.33	1915	53.89	4	2	0	119	3
v New Zealand	2003-2015	10	18	3	821	203	54.73	1335	61.49	4	2	1	106	6
v Pakistan	2004-2015	19	37	5	2228	221	69.62	4224	52.74	7	11	2	212	10
v South Africa	2000-2014	11	21	0	1251	287	59.57	2160	57.91	3	6	2	166	4
v West Indies	2003-2010	6	9	1	442	150	55.25	855	51.69	1	4	0	51	1
v Zimbabwe	2004-2004	2	2	0	281	270	140.50	391	71.86	1	0	0	38	2

in Australia	2004-2012	4	8	1	541	192	77.28	1029	52.57	1	5	0	69	1
in Bangladesh	2008-2014	4	7	0	668	319	95.42	1153	57.93	2	3	0	72	10
in England	2011-2014	5	10	0	526	147	52.60	1099	47.86	2	3	0	64	0
in India	2009-2009	3	5	0	241	137	48.20	531	45.38	1	0	0	31	1
in New Zealand	2006-2015	4	8	2	483	203	80.50	734	65.80	3	0	0	53	5
in Pakistan	2004-2009	3	5	0	300	104	60.00	469	63.96	1	3	0	37	0
in South Africa	2000-2012	5	10	0	372	108	37.20	842	44.18	1	2	1	46	1
in Sri Lanka	2002-2015	47	80	9	4975	287	70.07	8759	56.79	17	18	6	579	18
in U.A.E.	2011-2014	6	12	1	682	211	62.00	1413	48.26	2	4	0	62	4
in West Indies	2003-2008	3	5	0	214	75	42.80	474	45.14	0	3	0	21	0
in Zimbabwe	2004-2004	2	2	0	281	270	140.50	391	71.86	1	0	0	38	2

home	2002-2015	47	80	9	4975	287	70.07	8759	56.79	17	18	6	579	18
away	2000-2015	33	60	3	3626	319	63.61	6722	53.94	12	19	1	431	20
neutral	2011-2014	6	12	1	682	211	62.00	1413	48.26	2	4	0	62	4

But Sanga's record will always be hurt with those 48 tests he was wicket keeper for. Sanga was my favourite out of the Ponting, Lara, Tendulkar et al combos. But many people struggle to give Kallis his due. So Sanga won't get his. YK gets completely  omitted from the conversation too. Most of it is marketing, SL rarely visited Australia, whereas WI did a lot, and channel 9 had to talk up someone in their team. Mualia cast such a shadow over his team mates, and invited controversy, that many of the other player's feats went unnoticed for a long time.

I mean you can see it going on now with all the Indian fans and media, and wherever India tours, claiming Kohli is indisputably the second test batsman in the world currently. And its like to me - did Kane Williamson die? Cos this isn't the most difficult thing to find some dispute with.

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Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
SPD Smith (AUS)	2014-2019	52	93	13	6003	239	75.03	10361	57.93	24	22	3	675	29
KS Williamson (NZ)	2014-2019	45	78	10	4369	242*	64.25	7675	56.92	16	18	3	478	11
AC Voges (AUS)	2015-2016	20	31	7	1485	269*	61.87	2667	55.68	5	4	2	186	5
KC Sangakkara (SL)	2014-2015	16	31	1	1843	319	61.43	3323	55.46	5	9	2	192	15
DPMD Jayawardene (SL)	2014-2014	10	18	1	1003	203*	59.00	1973	50.83	3	5	1	105	8
V Kohli (INDIA)	2014-2019	57	98	5	5242	243	56.36	8764	59.81	20	14	7	568	13
Younis Khan (PAK)	2014-2017	31	59	5	2836	218	52.51	5400	52.51	11	6	4	261	26