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Pardon the pun but gees it was good to see the chooks get "roasted" last night.
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Mooloolabadog - 16 Apr 2021 10:37 PM
Marki - 16 Apr 2021 10:00 PM

1 dummy half run for 2 metres and 4 total runs for 22 metres last week against reserve grade opposition. Needs to show more than that to get into first grade

I agree that reserve graders need to fully earn an NRL spot.

However if they are a borderline selection a young player should get a run on basis of future potential, energy and enthusiasm.

Compared to the better teams one thing that stands out to me is lower levels of effort and commitment.
That might be a lack of confidence, but it may be that some players are lazy, going through the motions or not focused on the job.

The start was better against Souths.

We may need team changes at sometime because players are simply poor, lazy or on autopilot.
The coach may need to send a message.
If the players are as bad as I think they are, we lose little even if the replacement is no better, at least the coach is sending a message and attempting to set stsndards.

My list is Napa, Katoa and Hoppa in that order, if we are only dropping 1 player drop Napa.
Jacko getting injured is not ideal, I would run with Britt, he tries hard and does some good things.

For Katoa, Dietz is the odvious answer, I don't mind if he sits on the bench for 65 mins.
But if we are trailing by 12 or more with 15 mins to play, he is the player most likely to do something.

We could use Schoupp in a similar manner, if Topine can play 80 mins at hooker or someone else can fill in.

Wakeham can be used if we want a more traditional hooker roation.

Against the Cows if we bring the energy levels of the Souths game with the attack of the Storm game we should at least put in a competitive performance.

If we start badly and are never in the game, the coach has to look at changes, the players have had plenty of opportunities to show their worth, and it seems they have shown it.

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Mooloolabadog - 16 Apr 2021 10:37 PM
Marki - 16 Apr 2021 10:00 PM

1 dummy half run for 2 metres and 4 total runs for 22 metres last week against reserve grade opposition. Needs to show more than that to get into first grade

Sounds like double that of any of our first graders!

In all honesty though, yeah that's about as bad as our hookers of the last decade and doesnt bang on the door for selection. Having said that, if he's the better option than what you have, you pick him. 

I wouldnt necessarily pick him ahead of Topine but think the 2 of them can play the position on rotation. 
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Marki - 16 Apr 2021 10:00 PM
Cant wait till we can play Dietz again.
He will transform our team.
He will give us hope for the future.
And he will convince everyone that we've been playing the game wrongly for way too long.

1 dummy half run for 2 metres and 4 total runs for 22 metres last week against reserve grade opposition. Needs to show more than that to get into first grade
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hounddog - 16 Apr 2021 10:11 PM
Marki - 16 Apr 2021 9:56 PM

You don't need to work a whinge about our team into every post. Sometimes it is enough to simply admire great play.

HD, I dont sugar coat our team and falsely think they are a small change from being competitive. We arent.

There's so many facets of the game that we are behind on. The only saving grace is that I believe Barrett knows what these are and what needs to change. I just hope he can change them fast enough before everyone's patience is tested.

For fans to buy into the change, they need to be rewarded with some improvement. A win will go a fair way to achieving this. Let's hope it happens this weekend otherwise we will find ourselves even further behind.
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Marki - 16 Apr 2021 9:56 PM
The play of the night for me was Pappy who ran in support passed Grant who was tackled 5m from the line. 

Pappy runs around the ruck quickly and gets himself into an attacking position again, and receives a short pass from B Smith at dummy half to score.

It was just desire. Desire to get back into the attacking line and make a difference.

There is not 1 player in our team that I can think of that would do this. 

You don't need to work a whinge about our team into every post. Sometimes it is enough to simply admire great play.
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dman2018 - 16 Apr 2021 9:50 PM
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Twice as much as you... so if my maths is correct 2 x nuthin is nuthin....

You've finally made your maths teacher happy.
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Marki - 16 Apr 2021 10:00 PM
Cant wait till we can play Dietz again.
He will transform our team.
He will give us hope for the future.
And he will convince everyone that we've been playing the game wrongly for way too long.

Grant also does the defensive side of the game, for Dietz defence is a bit of an unknown quantity.

But we can start Topine, with Dietz or Wakeham off the bench.

For a 14 defence is not so critical, we want them to make an impact in attack and they don't need to play long minutes. 
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Cant wait till we can play Dietz again.
He will transform our team.
He will give us hope for the future.
And he will convince everyone that we've been playing the game wrongly for way too long.
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The play of the night for me was Pappy who ran in support passed Grant who was tackled 5m from the line. 

Pappy runs around the ruck quickly and gets himself into an attacking position again, and receives a short pass from B Smith at dummy half to score.

It was just desire. Desire to get back into the attacking line and make a difference.

There is not 1 player in our team that I can think of that would do this. 
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The chooks got out of gaol for a scoreless game.  Throughout the ref was clearly "aiding" them and all but scored that try on full time for them. Doesn't the game have more appeal without all those fvcking 6 agains hampering play.
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Marki - 16 Apr 2021 9:35 PM
hounddog - 16 Apr 2021 9:34 PM

WTF would Dman know.....

Twice as much as you... so if my maths is correct 2 x nuthin is nuthin....
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hounddog - 16 Apr 2021 9:34 PM
Maybe we need to dig up those old posts from Dman saying Grant wasn't worth big money.

Too much time spent hanging around with Des and Crusher.

WTF would Dman know.....
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I'll say it again...

Theres nothing prettier in rugby league than when your hooker has the instinct and desire to run first and pass second.

I dont know why we persist with passers of the ball.... I just dont.
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Maybe we need to dig up those old posts from Dman saying Grant wasn't worth big money.

Too much time spent hanging around with Des and Crusher.
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Micko - 16 Apr 2021 7:20 PM
Anybody heard the rumours about us offering JT, Paps and Grant big money?

Seems far fetched to  me, the salary cap auditor will  be at our door, and those guys are probably all under contract.
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Anybody heard the rumours about us offering JT, Paps and Grant big money?
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dman2018 - 16 Apr 2021 3:17 PM
Villi - 16 Apr 2021 4:49 AM

Staines obviously don’t do the work hitting the ball up that To’o does but he’s not built for that, and I reckon Momo has impacted his try scoring potentia. The bloke never looks to pass the ball and definitely cost the Panthers a try last night... Will be interesting to see what happens next couple of weeks with Naden back inside him...

I noticed that with Rovski too.
He didnt even feign to pass to Staines. 
I think even the Broncos were surprised how bad a hog he was....
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dman2018 - 16 Apr 2021 3:17 PM
Villi - 16 Apr 2021 4:49 AM

Staines obviously don’t do the work hitting the ball up that To’o does but he’s not built for that, and I reckon Momo has impacted his try scoring potentia. The bloke never looks to pass the ball and definitely cost the Panthers a try last night... Will be interesting to see what happens next couple of weeks with Naden back inside him...

The way to get the ball of Momo is ,

... use a sledgehammer.
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Villi - 16 Apr 2021 4:49 AM
Zef - 15 Apr 2021 10:56 PM

11th Immortal or Benny Hill?

The talk last year the Dogs had gone in hard with an offer of $500k + a season for Staines.... I believe we dodged a bullet. He’s just a taller version of The Newsreader , he ain’t worth big coin we threw at him. 

I’d rather keep the Newsreader at half the price & hopefully T Baz can at least add a couple more things to his game.... The last 3 games Newsreader played before injury I believe were his best for the club, he was more aggressive which I have been crying out for & way more involved which if he’s to cement that No.1 spot, he’s got to continue to do more of. 


Staines obviously don’t do the work hitting the ball up that To’o does but he’s not built for that, and I reckon Momo has impacted his try scoring potentia. The bloke never looks to pass the ball and definitely cost the Panthers a try last night... Will be interesting to see what happens next couple of weeks with Naden back inside him...

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Behind a decent pack the Newsreader is a more than capable FB. I still reckon thst when Lewis returns from injury Baz should put him in lock, he's got a decent kick, is a left footer and could cover the left side of the ruck. I'm just a pleb fan but even I can see that move as a drastic improvement.
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Zef - 15 Apr 2021 10:56 PM
Villi - 15 Apr 2021 9:38 PM

Charlie Staines is allowed to have an average game, his first average game, and won’t be his last.

Like every other footballer in the completion, past and present, ESPECIALLY your old avatar mate.

Natural footballer, skills you’re only born with.

11th Immortal or Benny Hill?

The talk last year the Dogs had gone in hard with an offer of $500k + a season for Staines.... I believe we dodged a bullet. He’s just a taller version of The Newsreader , he ain’t worth big coin we threw at him. 

I’d rather keep the Newsreader at half the price & hopefully T Baz can at least add a couple more things to his game.... The last 3 games Newsreader played before injury I believe were his best for the club, he was more aggressive which I have been crying out for & way more involved which if he’s to cement that No.1 spot, he’s got to continue to do more of. 


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dman2018 - 15 Apr 2021 11:13 PM
Zef - 15 Apr 2021 11:08 PM

Lol, well no job at JB HiFi for you... 
Your Ebola posts still haunt me...

Ebola?

Is Zef IanC?
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Zef - 15 Apr 2021 11:08 PM
dman2018 - 15 Apr 2021 10:58 PM

I don’t know what that means, but I got no tattoos, not a one, and certainly no sh.t on my face.

Lol, well no job at JB HiFi for you... 
Your Ebola posts still haunt me...
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dman2018 - 15 Apr 2021 10:58 PM

Occasional Zef posr*

I don’t know what that means, but I got no tattoos, not a one, and certainly no sh.t on my face.
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Micko - 15 Apr 2021 10:16 PM

I have heard the same and hope that we have it all approved. A stadium in Liverpool would be ideal and might bring us back to the top. 

I probably was a bit... hasty there.

I don’t think?.. though I may be wrong... the Liverpool stadium has reached funding request yet, though it is an a real an active proposal from interested parties. Not least of which is the Dogs of course, Liverpool Council is onboard too, but there’s a way to go before it’s before Gov.

Belmore is though, you’ll find stuff in Google about it. High performance training and sports science center.
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Villi - 15 Apr 2021 8:54 PM

Marki nailed it with his guess...
As for spooked, no one that is yet again 30 odd + thousand places behind me in SC can do that...
I only get spooked by people with face tattoos and the occasional axed post...

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Micko - 15 Apr 2021 10:20 PM
ODF - 15 Apr 2021 9:50 PM

That’s exactly right. The reason we watched a close game tonight is because the refs didn’t give away ten plus set restarts. It’s almost like the refs were told to go easy on the set restarts or penalties because it was ruining the game. 

If that is the case re instructions great... and done a hello a lot better than Greentird throwing refs under the bus over the clean up the POTB instruction fiasco...
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Villi - 15 Apr 2021 9:38 PM
I’ll say it again.... we dodged a bullet with Charlie Staines

 

Charlie Staines is allowed to have an average game, his first average game, and won’t be his last.

Like every other footballer in the completion, past and present, ESPECIALLY your old avatar mate.

Natural footballer, skills you’re only born with.
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Zef - 15 Apr 2021 10:47 PM
Marki - 15 Apr 2021 9:50 PM

You never justified anything. You were talking super Coach again where you just sack and sign players and coaches on contract, like Des was and like N Cleary was.

And even if they weren’t, I still wouldn’t to this day sign somebody to get somebody else. I couldn’t care what Penrith do, and they’re still to do it, I wouldn’t be held to ransom by one for the other.

CoachCleary win rate still below 50% after a year with only one loss (the one that mattered)...
He should be thanking Griff and Gus...
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