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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess now that the "let's put football first" guy has seemingly retained the Fox deal, any notion of a "total reset" has just evaporated... There might be some truth in that. If the money is guaranteed for the next three season, well, of course you take the money. If the money disappeared overnight, then you might consider that a radical overhaul is required sooner rather than later. If iAL continues in business as usual, metrics will continue dropping and TV money will disappear as rights wont be worth anything and all we have done is kicked the can down the road for a few years HHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The owners of iAL are mostly highly successful business people.... So your assumption is this collection of clever business people who fort for three years to get control... now they have it won't change much... You could very well be right but if you consider the names behind the teams I very much doubt they don't have the smarts to understand this as well... Consider what I have heard ... and has been published a lot but the narrative is not doom and gloom so lets ignore it and focus on we will all be ruined scenarios . Consider they have said it will take two to three years to rebuild, and we would like the Fox revenue as a back stop so we can grow... If they are so successful and smart why hasnt the AL done better? why are so many running at a loss? what have they done since taking control 18M ago? perhaps below pic may give us a clue  , They haven’t taken control. The FFA still has control because everyone was sh*t scared Fox would walk if ownership changed - just another example of where Lowy’s supposed “commercial expertise” was exposed as a sham. I know it's easier to blame FFA for iAL being useless and doing nothing but as old JJ has already publicly stated owners are definitely in control.
"The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.htmlDespite all the "we know how to run the comp better than FFA" rhetoric, the fact FFA is so heavily involved with the Covid situation says alot about the iAL's capabilities unfortunately. The new FFA and iHAL are finally showing their colours. Both are impotent. Let's be frank (pardon the expression), but the iHAL owners have been rubbing their hands with their new cut from the FFA and expected increase in revenue. This was their main objective and now have egg on their face notwithstanding the embarrassment that they have done nothing to show for their false and hollow promises.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess now that the "let's put football first" guy has seemingly retained the Fox deal, any notion of a "total reset" has just evaporated... There might be some truth in that. If the money is guaranteed for the next three season, well, of course you take the money. If the money disappeared overnight, then you might consider that a radical overhaul is required sooner rather than later. If iAL continues in business as usual, metrics will continue dropping and TV money will disappear as rights wont be worth anything and all we have done is kicked the can down the road for a few years HHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The owners of iAL are mostly highly successful business people.... So your assumption is this collection of clever business people who fort for three years to get control... now they have it won't change much... You could very well be right but if you consider the names behind the teams I very much doubt they don't have the smarts to understand this as well... Consider what I have heard ... and has been published a lot but the narrative is not doom and gloom so lets ignore it and focus on we will all be ruined scenarios . Consider they have said it will take two to three years to rebuild, and we would like the Fox revenue as a back stop so we can grow... If they are so successful and smart why hasnt the AL done better? why are so many running at a loss? what have they done since taking control 18M ago? perhaps below pic may give us a clue , They haven’t taken control. The FFA still has control because everyone was sh*t scared Fox would walk if ownership changed - just another example of where Lowy’s supposed “commercial expertise” was exposed as a sham. I know it's easier to blame FFA for iAL being useless and doing nothing but as old JJ has already publicly stated owners are definitely in control.
"The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.htmlDespite all the "we know how to run the comp better than FFA" rhetoric, the fact FFA is so heavily involved with the Covid situation says alot about the iAL's capabilities unfortunately. The new FFA and iHAL are finally showing their colours. Both are impotent. Let's be frank (pardon the expression), but the iHAL owners have been rubbing their hands with their new cut from the FFA and expected increase in revenue. This was their main objective and now have egg on their face notwithstanding the embarrassment that they have done nothing to show for their false and hollow promises. Do you really believe this? Just look at the owners one by one and ask yourself which owner is desperately hanging on for a few million from FFA to survive? Each owner is different.Would the objectives of CCM's owner be the same as those of SFC or MC? I think it's reasonable to assume most of the owners would be happy if their costs were covered. Some arent overly concerned,because they are loaded. But i am sure they all want a say in all their investments,including Football. Is it really so surprising that a person who owns a business doesnt want some idiot running it badly and most of all doesnt want someone ripping them off.(Thanks old FFA) I just couldnt imagine how any normal person would react positively to being roped into a pyramid scheme and then finding out revenue was being siphoned off for other purposes,without any recourse.Would anyone on this forum not be livid? iHAL is still not here.So we cant judge whether what the owners do will be better or not.But its hardly unreasonable for them to want an iHAL,given what has happened so far. The HAL has been in decline for a number of years and we all know the reasons.It's going to need an upheaval to turn things around.Hopefully independence and a host of other changes will do that. One thing is for sure ,doing the same thing will change nothing.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess now that the "let's put football first" guy has seemingly retained the Fox deal, any notion of a "total reset" has just evaporated... There might be some truth in that. If the money is guaranteed for the next three season, well, of course you take the money. If the money disappeared overnight, then you might consider that a radical overhaul is required sooner rather than later. If iAL continues in business as usual, metrics will continue dropping and TV money will disappear as rights wont be worth anything and all we have done is kicked the can down the road for a few years HHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The owners of iAL are mostly highly successful business people.... So your assumption is this collection of clever business people who fort for three years to get control... now they have it won't change much... You could very well be right but if you consider the names behind the teams I very much doubt they don't have the smarts to understand this as well... Consider what I have heard ... and has been published a lot but the narrative is not doom and gloom so lets ignore it and focus on we will all be ruined scenarios . Consider they have said it will take two to three years to rebuild, and we would like the Fox revenue as a back stop so we can grow... If they are so successful and smart why hasnt the AL done better? why are so many running at a loss? what have they done since taking control 18M ago? perhaps below pic may give us a clue , They haven’t taken control. The FFA still has control because everyone was sh*t scared Fox would walk if ownership changed - just another example of where Lowy’s supposed “commercial expertise” was exposed as a sham. I know it's easier to blame FFA for iAL being useless and doing nothing but as old JJ has already publicly stated owners are definitely in control.
"The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.htmlDespite all the "we know how to run the comp better than FFA" rhetoric, the fact FFA is so heavily involved with the Covid situation says alot about the iAL's capabilities unfortunately. The new FFA and iHAL are finally showing their colours. Both are impotent. Let's be frank (pardon the expression), but the iHAL owners have been rubbing their hands with their new cut from the FFA and expected increase in revenue. This was their main objective and now have egg on their face notwithstanding the embarrassment that they have done nothing to show for their false and hollow promises. Do you really believe this? Just look at the owners one by one and ask yourself which owner is desperately hanging on for a few million from FFA to survive? Each owner is different.Would the objectives of CCM's owner be the same as those of SFC or MC? I think it's reasonable to assume most of the owners would be happy if their costs were covered. Some arent overly concerned,because they are loaded. But i am sure they all want a say in all their investments,including Football. Is it really so surprising that a person who owns a business doesnt want some idiot running it badly and most of all doesnt want someone ripping them off.(Thanks old FFA) I just couldnt imagine how any normal person would react positively to being roped into a pyramid scheme and then finding out revenue was being siphoned off for other purposes,without any recourse.Would anyone on this forum not be livid? iHAL is still not here.So we cant judge whether what the owners do will be better or not.But its hardly unreasonable for them to want an iHAL,given what has happened so far. The HAL has been in decline for a number of years and we all know the reasons.It's going to need an upheaval to turn things around.Hopefully independence and a host of other changes will do that. One thing is for sure ,doing the same thing will change nothing. They have reneged on their promises of immediate improvements, marketing etc and still have nothing to show after 20 months - no actions, plans or vision. This will indeed change nothing.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess now that the "let's put football first" guy has seemingly retained the Fox deal, any notion of a "total reset" has just evaporated... There might be some truth in that. If the money is guaranteed for the next three season, well, of course you take the money. If the money disappeared overnight, then you might consider that a radical overhaul is required sooner rather than later. If iAL continues in business as usual, metrics will continue dropping and TV money will disappear as rights wont be worth anything and all we have done is kicked the can down the road for a few years HHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The owners of iAL are mostly highly successful business people.... So your assumption is this collection of clever business people who fort for three years to get control... now they have it won't change much... You could very well be right but if you consider the names behind the teams I very much doubt they don't have the smarts to understand this as well... Consider what I have heard ... and has been published a lot but the narrative is not doom and gloom so lets ignore it and focus on we will all be ruined scenarios . Consider they have said it will take two to three years to rebuild, and we would like the Fox revenue as a back stop so we can grow... If they are so successful and smart why hasnt the AL done better? why are so many running at a loss? what have they done since taking control 18M ago? perhaps below pic may give us a clue , They haven’t taken control. The FFA still has control because everyone was sh*t scared Fox would walk if ownership changed - just another example of where Lowy’s supposed “commercial expertise” was exposed as a sham. I know it's easier to blame FFA for iAL being useless and doing nothing but as old JJ has already publicly stated owners are definitely in control.
"The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.htmlDespite all the "we know how to run the comp better than FFA" rhetoric, the fact FFA is so heavily involved with the Covid situation says alot about the iAL's capabilities unfortunately. The new FFA and iHAL are finally showing their colours. Both are impotent. Let's be frank (pardon the expression), but the iHAL owners have been rubbing their hands with their new cut from the FFA and expected increase in revenue. This was their main objective and now have egg on their face notwithstanding the embarrassment that they have done nothing to show for their false and hollow promises. Do you really believe this? Just look at the owners one by one and ask yourself which owner is desperately hanging on for a few million from FFA to survive? Each owner is different.Would the objectives of CCM's owner be the same as those of SFC or MC? I think it's reasonable to assume most of the owners would be happy if their costs were covered. Some arent overly concerned,because they are loaded. But i am sure they all want a say in all their investments,including Football. Is it really so surprising that a person who owns a business doesnt want some idiot running it badly and most of all doesnt want someone ripping them off.(Thanks old FFA) I just couldnt imagine how any normal person would react positively to being roped into a pyramid scheme and then finding out revenue was being siphoned off for other purposes,without any recourse.Would anyone on this forum not be livid? iHAL is still not here.So we cant judge whether what the owners do will be better or not.But its hardly unreasonable for them to want an iHAL,given what has happened so far. The HAL has been in decline for a number of years and we all know the reasons.It's going to need an upheaval to turn things around.Hopefully independence and a host of other changes will do that. One thing is for sure ,doing the same thing will change nothing. They have reneged on their promises of immediate improvements, marketing etc and still have nothing to show after 20 months - no actions, plans or vision. This will indeed change nothing. They have not got the independence that would allow the investment they promised
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+x+x+x"Let's put football first" Doesn't even mention pro-rel once in 36 minutes of interview... More pressing issues with football in the short term to deal with wouldn't you agree? Apparently. Like... 1. replacing the countless millions in sponsorship the new mob have already lost 2. 2023 WWC bid 3. Growing the ffa cup etc... Only way to grow the ffa cup is to allow for promotion and relegation. It creates rivalries, it creates moments where we see if a 3rd or 2nd tier side can match the tier above, it builds interest in the landscape when every participating club has the chance to play in the a-league, it will help local businesses invest in grassroots clubs to get them up to scratch for certain divisions etc, in turn, this brings in sponsorship and revenue and a sense of belief and hope and dreams to aim for for every club and supporter. So yes, pro - rel will be the catalyst to Australian footballs success
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+x+x+x+x"Let's put football first" Doesn't even mention pro-rel once in 36 minutes of interview... More pressing issues with football in the short term to deal with wouldn't you agree? Apparently. Like... 1. replacing the countless millions in sponsorship the new mob have already lost 2. 2023 WWC bid 3. Growing the ffa cup etc... Only way to grow the ffa cup is to allow for promotion and relegation. Erm, you better tell JJ that...
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FFA Cup can grow over night if FFA allocates the winner as the cup winner for Asia, not the GF winner.
So pro rel doesn’t need to happen for that to. FFA also need to align all comps whether pro rel or not. It is utterly ridiculous AL can play 5 visa players and NPL clubs can’t. Also that NPL salary cap doesn’t match NPL is a problem.
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+xFFA Cup can grow over night if FFA allocates the winner as the cup winner for Asia, not the GF winner. So pro rel doesn’t need to happen for that to. FFA also need to align all comps whether pro rel or not. It is utterly ridiculous AL can play 5 visa players and NPL clubs can’t. Also that NPL salary cap doesn’t match NPL is a problem. wot?
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+x+xFFA Cup can grow over night if FFA allocates the winner as the cup winner for Asia, not the GF winner. So pro rel doesn’t need to happen for that to. FFA also need to align all comps whether pro rel or not. It is utterly ridiculous AL can play 5 visa players and NPL clubs can’t. Also that NPL salary cap doesn’t match NPL is a problem. wot? Menade ju ”AL”. Man ska inte håller på med för mycket saker samtidigt.
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+x+x+xFFA Cup can grow over night if FFA allocates the winner as the cup winner for Asia, not the GF winner. So pro rel doesn’t need to happen for that to. FFA also need to align all comps whether pro rel or not. It is utterly ridiculous AL can play 5 visa players and NPL clubs can’t. Also that NPL salary cap doesn’t match NPL is a problem. wot? Menade ju ”AL”. Man ska inte håller på med för mycket saker samtidigt. Ha, thought so.
The disparity in salary and professionalism though is what creates David v Goliath which is the romance of the cup.
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I thought that reads I do not wear foundation although I do wear tanning cream when not out in the sun.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess now that the "let's put football first" guy has seemingly retained the Fox deal, any notion of a "total reset" has just evaporated... There might be some truth in that. If the money is guaranteed for the next three season, well, of course you take the money. If the money disappeared overnight, then you might consider that a radical overhaul is required sooner rather than later. If iAL continues in business as usual, metrics will continue dropping and TV money will disappear as rights wont be worth anything and all we have done is kicked the can down the road for a few years HHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The owners of iAL are mostly highly successful business people.... So your assumption is this collection of clever business people who fort for three years to get control... now they have it won't change much... You could very well be right but if you consider the names behind the teams I very much doubt they don't have the smarts to understand this as well... Consider what I have heard ... and has been published a lot but the narrative is not doom and gloom so lets ignore it and focus on we will all be ruined scenarios . Consider they have said it will take two to three years to rebuild, and we would like the Fox revenue as a back stop so we can grow... If they are so successful and smart why hasnt the AL done better? why are so many running at a loss? what have they done since taking control 18M ago? perhaps below pic may give us a clue , They haven’t taken control. The FFA still has control because everyone was sh*t scared Fox would walk if ownership changed - just another example of where Lowy’s supposed “commercial expertise” was exposed as a sham. I know it's easier to blame FFA for iAL being useless and doing nothing but as old JJ has already publicly stated owners are definitely in control.
"The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.htmlDespite all the "we know how to run the comp better than FFA" rhetoric, the fact FFA is so heavily involved with the Covid situation says alot about the iAL's capabilities unfortunately. The new FFA and iHAL are finally showing their colours. Both are impotent. Let's be frank (pardon the expression), but the iHAL owners have been rubbing their hands with their new cut from the FFA and expected increase in revenue. This was their main objective and now have egg on their face notwithstanding the embarrassment that they have done nothing to show for their false and hollow promises. Do you really believe this? Just look at the owners one by one and ask yourself which owner is desperately hanging on for a few million from FFA to survive? Each owner is different.Would the objectives of CCM's owner be the same as those of SFC or MC? I think it's reasonable to assume most of the owners would be happy if their costs were covered. Some arent overly concerned,because they are loaded. But i am sure they all want a say in all their investments,including Football. Is it really so surprising that a person who owns a business doesnt want some idiot running it badly and most of all doesnt want someone ripping them off.(Thanks old FFA) I just couldnt imagine how any normal person would react positively to being roped into a pyramid scheme and then finding out revenue was being siphoned off for other purposes,without any recourse.Would anyone on this forum not be livid? iHAL is still not here.So we cant judge whether what the owners do will be better or not.But its hardly unreasonable for them to want an iHAL,given what has happened so far. The HAL has been in decline for a number of years and we all know the reasons.It's going to need an upheaval to turn things around.Hopefully independence and a host of other changes will do that. One thing is for sure ,doing the same thing will change nothing. They have reneged on their promises of immediate improvements, marketing etc and still have nothing to show after 20 months - no actions, plans or vision. This will indeed change nothing. They have not got the independence that would allow the investment they promised Vision, plans and strategy does not need money!
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess now that the "let's put football first" guy has seemingly retained the Fox deal, any notion of a "total reset" has just evaporated... There might be some truth in that. If the money is guaranteed for the next three season, well, of course you take the money. If the money disappeared overnight, then you might consider that a radical overhaul is required sooner rather than later. If iAL continues in business as usual, metrics will continue dropping and TV money will disappear as rights wont be worth anything and all we have done is kicked the can down the road for a few years HHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The owners of iAL are mostly highly successful business people.... So your assumption is this collection of clever business people who fort for three years to get control... now they have it won't change much... You could very well be right but if you consider the names behind the teams I very much doubt they don't have the smarts to understand this as well... Consider what I have heard ... and has been published a lot but the narrative is not doom and gloom so lets ignore it and focus on we will all be ruined scenarios . Consider they have said it will take two to three years to rebuild, and we would like the Fox revenue as a back stop so we can grow... If they are so successful and smart why hasnt the AL done better? why are so many running at a loss? what have they done since taking control 18M ago? perhaps below pic may give us a clue , They haven’t taken control. The FFA still has control because everyone was sh*t scared Fox would walk if ownership changed - just another example of where Lowy’s supposed “commercial expertise” was exposed as a sham. I know it's easier to blame FFA for iAL being useless and doing nothing but as old JJ has already publicly stated owners are definitely in control.
"The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.htmlDespite all the "we know how to run the comp better than FFA" rhetoric, the fact FFA is so heavily involved with the Covid situation says alot about the iAL's capabilities unfortunately. The new FFA and iHAL are finally showing their colours. Both are impotent. Let's be frank (pardon the expression), but the iHAL owners have been rubbing their hands with their new cut from the FFA and expected increase in revenue. This was their main objective and now have egg on their face notwithstanding the embarrassment that they have done nothing to show for their false and hollow promises. Do you really believe this? Just look at the owners one by one and ask yourself which owner is desperately hanging on for a few million from FFA to survive? Each owner is different.Would the objectives of CCM's owner be the same as those of SFC or MC? I think it's reasonable to assume most of the owners would be happy if their costs were covered. Some arent overly concerned,because they are loaded. But i am sure they all want a say in all their investments,including Football. Is it really so surprising that a person who owns a business doesnt want some idiot running it badly and most of all doesnt want someone ripping them off.(Thanks old FFA) I just couldnt imagine how any normal person would react positively to being roped into a pyramid scheme and then finding out revenue was being siphoned off for other purposes,without any recourse.Would anyone on this forum not be livid? iHAL is still not here.So we cant judge whether what the owners do will be better or not.But its hardly unreasonable for them to want an iHAL,given what has happened so far. The HAL has been in decline for a number of years and we all know the reasons.It's going to need an upheaval to turn things around.Hopefully independence and a host of other changes will do that. One thing is for sure ,doing the same thing will change nothing. They have reneged on their promises of immediate improvements, marketing etc and still have nothing to show after 20 months - no actions, plans or vision. This will indeed change nothing. They have not got the independence that would allow the investment they promised Vision, plans and strategy does not need money! Execution does which is where people like us will see vision, plans, and strategy -
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess now that the "let's put football first" guy has seemingly retained the Fox deal, any notion of a "total reset" has just evaporated... There might be some truth in that. If the money is guaranteed for the next three season, well, of course you take the money. If the money disappeared overnight, then you might consider that a radical overhaul is required sooner rather than later. If iAL continues in business as usual, metrics will continue dropping and TV money will disappear as rights wont be worth anything and all we have done is kicked the can down the road for a few years HHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The owners of iAL are mostly highly successful business people.... So your assumption is this collection of clever business people who fort for three years to get control... now they have it won't change much... You could very well be right but if you consider the names behind the teams I very much doubt they don't have the smarts to understand this as well... Consider what I have heard ... and has been published a lot but the narrative is not doom and gloom so lets ignore it and focus on we will all be ruined scenarios . Consider they have said it will take two to three years to rebuild, and we would like the Fox revenue as a back stop so we can grow... If they are so successful and smart why hasnt the AL done better? why are so many running at a loss? what have they done since taking control 18M ago? perhaps below pic may give us a clue , They haven’t taken control. The FFA still has control because everyone was sh*t scared Fox would walk if ownership changed - just another example of where Lowy’s supposed “commercial expertise” was exposed as a sham. I know it's easier to blame FFA for iAL being useless and doing nothing but as old JJ has already publicly stated owners are definitely in control.
"The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.htmlDespite all the "we know how to run the comp better than FFA" rhetoric, the fact FFA is so heavily involved with the Covid situation says alot about the iAL's capabilities unfortunately. The new FFA and iHAL are finally showing their colours. Both are impotent. Let's be frank (pardon the expression), but the iHAL owners have been rubbing their hands with their new cut from the FFA and expected increase in revenue. This was their main objective and now have egg on their face notwithstanding the embarrassment that they have done nothing to show for their false and hollow promises. Do you really believe this? Just look at the owners one by one and ask yourself which owner is desperately hanging on for a few million from FFA to survive? Each owner is different.Would the objectives of CCM's owner be the same as those of SFC or MC? I think it's reasonable to assume most of the owners would be happy if their costs were covered. Some arent overly concerned,because they are loaded. But i am sure they all want a say in all their investments,including Football. Is it really so surprising that a person who owns a business doesnt want some idiot running it badly and most of all doesnt want someone ripping them off.(Thanks old FFA) I just couldnt imagine how any normal person would react positively to being roped into a pyramid scheme and then finding out revenue was being siphoned off for other purposes,without any recourse.Would anyone on this forum not be livid? iHAL is still not here.So we cant judge whether what the owners do will be better or not.But its hardly unreasonable for them to want an iHAL,given what has happened so far. The HAL has been in decline for a number of years and we all know the reasons.It's going to need an upheaval to turn things around.Hopefully independence and a host of other changes will do that. One thing is for sure ,doing the same thing will change nothing. They have reneged on their promises of immediate improvements, marketing etc and still have nothing to show after 20 months - no actions, plans or vision. This will indeed change nothing. They have not got the independence that would allow the investment they promised Vision, plans and strategy does not need money! Execution does which is where people like us will see vision, plans, and strategy - You need to display the plans before execution and after 20 months you'd expect it. But it seems that suddenly keeping the football community in the dark is now good enough lol.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess now that the "let's put football first" guy has seemingly retained the Fox deal, any notion of a "total reset" has just evaporated... There might be some truth in that. If the money is guaranteed for the next three season, well, of course you take the money. If the money disappeared overnight, then you might consider that a radical overhaul is required sooner rather than later. If iAL continues in business as usual, metrics will continue dropping and TV money will disappear as rights wont be worth anything and all we have done is kicked the can down the road for a few years HHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The owners of iAL are mostly highly successful business people.... So your assumption is this collection of clever business people who fort for three years to get control... now they have it won't change much... You could very well be right but if you consider the names behind the teams I very much doubt they don't have the smarts to understand this as well... Consider what I have heard ... and has been published a lot but the narrative is not doom and gloom so lets ignore it and focus on we will all be ruined scenarios . Consider they have said it will take two to three years to rebuild, and we would like the Fox revenue as a back stop so we can grow... If they are so successful and smart why hasnt the AL done better? why are so many running at a loss? what have they done since taking control 18M ago? perhaps below pic may give us a clue , They haven’t taken control. The FFA still has control because everyone was sh*t scared Fox would walk if ownership changed - just another example of where Lowy’s supposed “commercial expertise” was exposed as a sham. I know it's easier to blame FFA for iAL being useless and doing nothing but as old JJ has already publicly stated owners are definitely in control.
"The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.htmlDespite all the "we know how to run the comp better than FFA" rhetoric, the fact FFA is so heavily involved with the Covid situation says alot about the iAL's capabilities unfortunately. The new FFA and iHAL are finally showing their colours. Both are impotent. Let's be frank (pardon the expression), but the iHAL owners have been rubbing their hands with their new cut from the FFA and expected increase in revenue. This was their main objective and now have egg on their face notwithstanding the embarrassment that they have done nothing to show for their false and hollow promises. Do you really believe this? Just look at the owners one by one and ask yourself which owner is desperately hanging on for a few million from FFA to survive? Each owner is different.Would the objectives of CCM's owner be the same as those of SFC or MC? I think it's reasonable to assume most of the owners would be happy if their costs were covered. Some arent overly concerned,because they are loaded. But i am sure they all want a say in all their investments,including Football. Is it really so surprising that a person who owns a business doesnt want some idiot running it badly and most of all doesnt want someone ripping them off.(Thanks old FFA) I just couldnt imagine how any normal person would react positively to being roped into a pyramid scheme and then finding out revenue was being siphoned off for other purposes,without any recourse.Would anyone on this forum not be livid? iHAL is still not here.So we cant judge whether what the owners do will be better or not.But its hardly unreasonable for them to want an iHAL,given what has happened so far. The HAL has been in decline for a number of years and we all know the reasons.It's going to need an upheaval to turn things around.Hopefully independence and a host of other changes will do that. One thing is for sure ,doing the same thing will change nothing. They have reneged on their promises of immediate improvements, marketing etc and still have nothing to show after 20 months - no actions, plans or vision. This will indeed change nothing. They have not got the independence that would allow the investment they promised Vision, plans and strategy does not need money! Execution does which is where people like us will see vision, plans, and strategy - You need to display the plans before execution and after 20 months you'd expect it. But it seems that suddenly keeping the football community in the dark is now good enough lol. You do NOT need to display the plans. Most businesses keep their plans confidential and football is no different.
I’m pretty sure publishing plans for internet dudes to review and comment on doesnt form part of your standard MBA ....
and there is no “after 20 months” .... the competition still sits with the FFA and will do until its handed over to iAL who will then have their own Board, CEO, offices and staff.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess now that the "let's put football first" guy has seemingly retained the Fox deal, any notion of a "total reset" has just evaporated... There might be some truth in that. If the money is guaranteed for the next three season, well, of course you take the money. If the money disappeared overnight, then you might consider that a radical overhaul is required sooner rather than later. If iAL continues in business as usual, metrics will continue dropping and TV money will disappear as rights wont be worth anything and all we have done is kicked the can down the road for a few years HHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The owners of iAL are mostly highly successful business people.... So your assumption is this collection of clever business people who fort for three years to get control... now they have it won't change much... You could very well be right but if you consider the names behind the teams I very much doubt they don't have the smarts to understand this as well... Consider what I have heard ... and has been published a lot but the narrative is not doom and gloom so lets ignore it and focus on we will all be ruined scenarios . Consider they have said it will take two to three years to rebuild, and we would like the Fox revenue as a back stop so we can grow... If they are so successful and smart why hasnt the AL done better? why are so many running at a loss? what have they done since taking control 18M ago? perhaps below pic may give us a clue , They haven’t taken control. The FFA still has control because everyone was sh*t scared Fox would walk if ownership changed - just another example of where Lowy’s supposed “commercial expertise” was exposed as a sham. I know it's easier to blame FFA for iAL being useless and doing nothing but as old JJ has already publicly stated owners are definitely in control.
"The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.htmlDespite all the "we know how to run the comp better than FFA" rhetoric, the fact FFA is so heavily involved with the Covid situation says alot about the iAL's capabilities unfortunately. The new FFA and iHAL are finally showing their colours. Both are impotent. Let's be frank (pardon the expression), but the iHAL owners have been rubbing their hands with their new cut from the FFA and expected increase in revenue. This was their main objective and now have egg on their face notwithstanding the embarrassment that they have done nothing to show for their false and hollow promises. Do you really believe this? Just look at the owners one by one and ask yourself which owner is desperately hanging on for a few million from FFA to survive? Each owner is different.Would the objectives of CCM's owner be the same as those of SFC or MC? I think it's reasonable to assume most of the owners would be happy if their costs were covered. Some arent overly concerned,because they are loaded. But i am sure they all want a say in all their investments,including Football. Is it really so surprising that a person who owns a business doesnt want some idiot running it badly and most of all doesnt want someone ripping them off.(Thanks old FFA) I just couldnt imagine how any normal person would react positively to being roped into a pyramid scheme and then finding out revenue was being siphoned off for other purposes,without any recourse.Would anyone on this forum not be livid? iHAL is still not here.So we cant judge whether what the owners do will be better or not.But its hardly unreasonable for them to want an iHAL,given what has happened so far. The HAL has been in decline for a number of years and we all know the reasons.It's going to need an upheaval to turn things around.Hopefully independence and a host of other changes will do that. One thing is for sure ,doing the same thing will change nothing. They have reneged on their promises of immediate improvements, marketing etc and still have nothing to show after 20 months - no actions, plans or vision. This will indeed change nothing. They have not got the independence that would allow the investment they promised Vision, plans and strategy does not need money! Execution does which is where people like us will see vision, plans, and strategy - You need to display the plans before execution and after 20 months you'd expect it. But it seems that suddenly keeping the football community in the dark is now good enough lol. You do NOT need to display the plans. Most businesses keep their plans confidential and football is no different.
I’m pretty sure publishing plans for internet dudes to review and comment on doesnt form part of your standard MBA ....
and there is no “after 20 months” .... the competition still sits with the FFA and will do until its handed over to iAL who will then have their own Board, CEO, offices and staff. iHAL have got it all in their control, all but a final signature does not proclude progress or at least announcements. You wanted Lowy to be transparent but not this lot, lol.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess now that the "let's put football first" guy has seemingly retained the Fox deal, any notion of a "total reset" has just evaporated... There might be some truth in that. If the money is guaranteed for the next three season, well, of course you take the money. If the money disappeared overnight, then you might consider that a radical overhaul is required sooner rather than later. If iAL continues in business as usual, metrics will continue dropping and TV money will disappear as rights wont be worth anything and all we have done is kicked the can down the road for a few years HHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The owners of iAL are mostly highly successful business people.... So your assumption is this collection of clever business people who fort for three years to get control... now they have it won't change much... You could very well be right but if you consider the names behind the teams I very much doubt they don't have the smarts to understand this as well... Consider what I have heard ... and has been published a lot but the narrative is not doom and gloom so lets ignore it and focus on we will all be ruined scenarios . Consider they have said it will take two to three years to rebuild, and we would like the Fox revenue as a back stop so we can grow... If they are so successful and smart why hasnt the AL done better? why are so many running at a loss? what have they done since taking control 18M ago? perhaps below pic may give us a clue , They haven’t taken control. The FFA still has control because everyone was sh*t scared Fox would walk if ownership changed - just another example of where Lowy’s supposed “commercial expertise” was exposed as a sham. I know it's easier to blame FFA for iAL being useless and doing nothing but as old JJ has already publicly stated owners are definitely in control.
"The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.htmlDespite all the "we know how to run the comp better than FFA" rhetoric, the fact FFA is so heavily involved with the Covid situation says alot about the iAL's capabilities unfortunately. The new FFA and iHAL are finally showing their colours. Both are impotent. Let's be frank (pardon the expression), but the iHAL owners have been rubbing their hands with their new cut from the FFA and expected increase in revenue. This was their main objective and now have egg on their face notwithstanding the embarrassment that they have done nothing to show for their false and hollow promises. Do you really believe this? Just look at the owners one by one and ask yourself which owner is desperately hanging on for a few million from FFA to survive? Each owner is different.Would the objectives of CCM's owner be the same as those of SFC or MC? I think it's reasonable to assume most of the owners would be happy if their costs were covered. Some arent overly concerned,because they are loaded. But i am sure they all want a say in all their investments,including Football. Is it really so surprising that a person who owns a business doesnt want some idiot running it badly and most of all doesnt want someone ripping them off.(Thanks old FFA) I just couldnt imagine how any normal person would react positively to being roped into a pyramid scheme and then finding out revenue was being siphoned off for other purposes,without any recourse.Would anyone on this forum not be livid? iHAL is still not here.So we cant judge whether what the owners do will be better or not.But its hardly unreasonable for them to want an iHAL,given what has happened so far. The HAL has been in decline for a number of years and we all know the reasons.It's going to need an upheaval to turn things around.Hopefully independence and a host of other changes will do that. One thing is for sure ,doing the same thing will change nothing. They have reneged on their promises of immediate improvements, marketing etc and still have nothing to show after 20 months - no actions, plans or vision. This will indeed change nothing. They have not got the independence that would allow the investment they promised Vision, plans and strategy does not need money! Execution does which is where people like us will see vision, plans, and strategy - You need to display the plans before execution and after 20 months you'd expect it. But it seems that suddenly keeping the football community in the dark is now good enough lol. You do NOT need to display the plans. Most businesses keep their plans confidential and football is no different.
I’m pretty sure publishing plans for internet dudes to review and comment on doesnt form part of your standard MBA ....
and there is no “after 20 months” .... the competition still sits with the FFA and will do until its handed over to iAL who will then have their own Board, CEO, offices and staff. iHAL have got it all in their control, all but a final signature does not proclude progress or at least announcements. You wanted Lowy to be transparent but not this lot, lol. I don’t disagree they need a vision, plan etc. I disagree they should publish that for public scrutiny - that makes no sense.
And I know the iAL have not got control. The competition is under the supervision of the FFA Board, CEO, O’Rourke and his staff.
iAL have zero staff and a fundamental point that many people seem to be missing is that the club owners will not be running the competition; they will be appointing a Board who will then hire a team of football administrators to do that, they will have independence from the club owners (as per FIFA guidelines) so there can be proper governance over the competition.
The Administration team will report to a new Board of Directors elected by the clubs/FFA, the Director's will be responsible for ensuring that vision, strategy and plans are implemented.
The FFA has everyone, including a legal obligation to run the competition.
iAL doesn’t have a charter to run the competition, it doesn’t have any Legal authority to do so, doesn’t have a Board, a CEO, ant staff, or any budget.
iAL can’t negotiate with Fox, with sponsors, with FTA, with the AFC/FIFA .... its like a “government in waiting” and can’t do anything until control is handed over.
The most recent example is Fox Sports paid the tv money into the FFA bank account, not iAL. So they don’t even have control of the money ...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess now that the "let's put football first" guy has seemingly retained the Fox deal, any notion of a "total reset" has just evaporated... There might be some truth in that. If the money is guaranteed for the next three season, well, of course you take the money. If the money disappeared overnight, then you might consider that a radical overhaul is required sooner rather than later. If iAL continues in business as usual, metrics will continue dropping and TV money will disappear as rights wont be worth anything and all we have done is kicked the can down the road for a few years HHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The owners of iAL are mostly highly successful business people.... So your assumption is this collection of clever business people who fort for three years to get control... now they have it won't change much... You could very well be right but if you consider the names behind the teams I very much doubt they don't have the smarts to understand this as well... Consider what I have heard ... and has been published a lot but the narrative is not doom and gloom so lets ignore it and focus on we will all be ruined scenarios . Consider they have said it will take two to three years to rebuild, and we would like the Fox revenue as a back stop so we can grow... If they are so successful and smart why hasnt the AL done better? why are so many running at a loss? what have they done since taking control 18M ago? perhaps below pic may give us a clue , They haven’t taken control. The FFA still has control because everyone was sh*t scared Fox would walk if ownership changed - just another example of where Lowy’s supposed “commercial expertise” was exposed as a sham. I know it's easier to blame FFA for iAL being useless and doing nothing but as old JJ has already publicly stated owners are definitely in control.
"The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.htmlDespite all the "we know how to run the comp better than FFA" rhetoric, the fact FFA is so heavily involved with the Covid situation says alot about the iAL's capabilities unfortunately. The new FFA and iHAL are finally showing their colours. Both are impotent. Let's be frank (pardon the expression), but the iHAL owners have been rubbing their hands with their new cut from the FFA and expected increase in revenue. This was their main objective and now have egg on their face notwithstanding the embarrassment that they have done nothing to show for their false and hollow promises. Do you really believe this? Just look at the owners one by one and ask yourself which owner is desperately hanging on for a few million from FFA to survive? Each owner is different.Would the objectives of CCM's owner be the same as those of SFC or MC? I think it's reasonable to assume most of the owners would be happy if their costs were covered. Some arent overly concerned,because they are loaded. But i am sure they all want a say in all their investments,including Football. Is it really so surprising that a person who owns a business doesnt want some idiot running it badly and most of all doesnt want someone ripping them off.(Thanks old FFA) I just couldnt imagine how any normal person would react positively to being roped into a pyramid scheme and then finding out revenue was being siphoned off for other purposes,without any recourse.Would anyone on this forum not be livid? iHAL is still not here.So we cant judge whether what the owners do will be better or not.But its hardly unreasonable for them to want an iHAL,given what has happened so far. The HAL has been in decline for a number of years and we all know the reasons.It's going to need an upheaval to turn things around.Hopefully independence and a host of other changes will do that. One thing is for sure ,doing the same thing will change nothing. They have reneged on their promises of immediate improvements, marketing etc and still have nothing to show after 20 months - no actions, plans or vision. This will indeed change nothing. They have not got the independence that would allow the investment they promised Vision, plans and strategy does not need money! Execution does which is where people like us will see vision, plans, and strategy - You need to display the plans before execution and after 20 months you'd expect it. But it seems that suddenly keeping the football community in the dark is now good enough lol. You do NOT need to display the plans. Most businesses keep their plans confidential and football is no different.
I’m pretty sure publishing plans for internet dudes to review and comment on doesnt form part of your standard MBA ....
and there is no “after 20 months” .... the competition still sits with the FFA and will do until its handed over to iAL who will then have their own Board, CEO, offices and staff. iHAL have got it all in their control, all but a final signature does not proclude progress or at least announcements. You wanted Lowy to be transparent but not this lot, lol. I don’t disagree they need a vision, plan etc. I disagree they should publish that for public scrutiny - that makes no sense.
And I know the iAL have not got control. The competition is under the supervision of the FFA Board, CEO, O’Rourke and his staff.
iAL have zero staff and a fundamental point that many people seem to be missing is that the club owners will not be running the competition; they will be appointing a Board who will then hire a team of football administrators to do that, they will have independence from the club owners (as per FIFA guidelines) so there can be proper governance over the competition.
The Administration team will report to a new Board of Directors elected by the clubs/FFA, the Director's will be responsible for ensuring that vision, strategy and plans are implemented.
The FFA has everyone, including a legal obligation to run the competition.
iAL doesn’t have a charter to run the competition, it doesn’t have any Legal authority to do so, doesn’t have a Board, a CEO, ant staff, or any budget.
iAL can’t negotiate with Fox, with sponsors, with FTA, with the AFC/FIFA .... its like a “government in waiting” and can’t do anything until control is handed over.
The most recent example is Fox Sports paid the tv money into the FFA bank account, not iAL. So they don’t even have control of the money ... I just can't understand how so many people fail to grasp this reality.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess now that the "let's put football first" guy has seemingly retained the Fox deal, any notion of a "total reset" has just evaporated... There might be some truth in that. If the money is guaranteed for the next three season, well, of course you take the money. If the money disappeared overnight, then you might consider that a radical overhaul is required sooner rather than later. If iAL continues in business as usual, metrics will continue dropping and TV money will disappear as rights wont be worth anything and all we have done is kicked the can down the road for a few years HHHMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The owners of iAL are mostly highly successful business people.... So your assumption is this collection of clever business people who fort for three years to get control... now they have it won't change much... You could very well be right but if you consider the names behind the teams I very much doubt they don't have the smarts to understand this as well... Consider what I have heard ... and has been published a lot but the narrative is not doom and gloom so lets ignore it and focus on we will all be ruined scenarios . Consider they have said it will take two to three years to rebuild, and we would like the Fox revenue as a back stop so we can grow... If they are so successful and smart why hasnt the AL done better? why are so many running at a loss? what have they done since taking control 18M ago? perhaps below pic may give us a clue , They haven’t taken control. The FFA still has control because everyone was sh*t scared Fox would walk if ownership changed - just another example of where Lowy’s supposed “commercial expertise” was exposed as a sham. I know it's easier to blame FFA for iAL being useless and doing nothing but as old JJ has already publicly stated owners are definitely in control.
"The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.htmlDespite all the "we know how to run the comp better than FFA" rhetoric, the fact FFA is so heavily involved with the Covid situation says alot about the iAL's capabilities unfortunately. The new FFA and iHAL are finally showing their colours. Both are impotent. Let's be frank (pardon the expression), but the iHAL owners have been rubbing their hands with their new cut from the FFA and expected increase in revenue. This was their main objective and now have egg on their face notwithstanding the embarrassment that they have done nothing to show for their false and hollow promises. Do you really believe this? Just look at the owners one by one and ask yourself which owner is desperately hanging on for a few million from FFA to survive? Each owner is different.Would the objectives of CCM's owner be the same as those of SFC or MC? I think it's reasonable to assume most of the owners would be happy if their costs were covered. Some arent overly concerned,because they are loaded. But i am sure they all want a say in all their investments,including Football. Is it really so surprising that a person who owns a business doesnt want some idiot running it badly and most of all doesnt want someone ripping them off.(Thanks old FFA) I just couldnt imagine how any normal person would react positively to being roped into a pyramid scheme and then finding out revenue was being siphoned off for other purposes,without any recourse.Would anyone on this forum not be livid? iHAL is still not here.So we cant judge whether what the owners do will be better or not.But its hardly unreasonable for them to want an iHAL,given what has happened so far. The HAL has been in decline for a number of years and we all know the reasons.It's going to need an upheaval to turn things around.Hopefully independence and a host of other changes will do that. One thing is for sure ,doing the same thing will change nothing. They have reneged on their promises of immediate improvements, marketing etc and still have nothing to show after 20 months - no actions, plans or vision. This will indeed change nothing. They have not got the independence that would allow the investment they promised Vision, plans and strategy does not need money! Execution does which is where people like us will see vision, plans, and strategy - You need to display the plans before execution and after 20 months you'd expect it. But it seems that suddenly keeping the football community in the dark is now good enough lol. You do NOT need to display the plans. Most businesses keep their plans confidential and football is no different.
I’m pretty sure publishing plans for internet dudes to review and comment on doesnt form part of your standard MBA ....
and there is no “after 20 months” .... the competition still sits with the FFA and will do until its handed over to iAL who will then have their own Board, CEO, offices and staff. iHAL have got it all in their control, all but a final signature does not proclude progress or at least announcements. You wanted Lowy to be transparent but not this lot, lol. I don’t disagree they need a vision, plan etc. I disagree they should publish that for public scrutiny - that makes no sense.
And I know the iAL have not got control. The competition is under the supervision of the FFA Board, CEO, O’Rourke and his staff.
iAL have zero staff and a fundamental point that many people seem to be missing is that the club owners will not be running the competition; they will be appointing a Board who will then hire a team of football administrators to do that, they will have independence from the club owners (as per FIFA guidelines) so there can be proper governance over the competition.
The Administration team will report to a new Board of Directors elected by the clubs/FFA, the Director's will be responsible for ensuring that vision, strategy and plans are implemented.
The FFA has everyone, including a legal obligation to run the competition.
iAL doesn’t have a charter to run the competition, it doesn’t have any Legal authority to do so, doesn’t have a Board, a CEO, ant staff, or any budget.
iAL can’t negotiate with Fox, with sponsors, with FTA, with the AFC/FIFA .... its like a “government in waiting” and can’t do anything until control is handed over.
The most recent example is Fox Sports paid the tv money into the FFA bank account, not iAL. So they don’t even have control of the money ... I just can't understand how so many people fail to grasp this reality. The FFA CEO also doesn’t seem to grasp it as JJ also thinks iAL is running its own show and recently called them out to lift their game
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A serious question. Who would know more about what is and or isn't happening or who is running whatever, JJ or AJF. Unless you're at the coal face what really do you know? I don't think that he said the IHAL is running the game, but what they're doing and going to do is in their hands and they're keeping it close to their chest. What you read into something depends on your bias
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+x+x+x+xFFA Cup can grow over night if FFA allocates the winner as the cup winner for Asia, not the GF winner. So pro rel doesn’t need to happen for that to. FFA also need to align all comps whether pro rel or not. It is utterly ridiculous AL can play 5 visa players and NPL clubs can’t. Also that NPL salary cap doesn’t match NPL is a problem. wot? Menade ju ”AL”. Man ska inte håller på med för mycket saker samtidigt. Ha, thought so.
The disparity in salary and professionalism though is what creates David v Goliath which is the romance of the cup. We have discussed this before and I don’t buy into it. Cups are the somewhat equivalent of a guy from the street boxing a belt holder. FFA Cup is the same thing except the guy from the street is only allowed to use one hand during the fight under FFA rules. Which of course makes it remarkable that AL teams can lose. Romantic in a way, but certainly not fair.
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+x+x+x+x+xFFA Cup can grow over night if FFA allocates the winner as the cup winner for Asia, not the GF winner. So pro rel doesn’t need to happen for that to. FFA also need to align all comps whether pro rel or not. It is utterly ridiculous AL can play 5 visa players and NPL clubs can’t. Also that NPL salary cap doesn’t match NPL is a problem. wot? Menade ju ”AL”. Man ska inte håller på med för mycket saker samtidigt. Ha, thought so.
The disparity in salary and professionalism though is what creates David v Goliath which is the romance of the cup. We have discussed this before and I don’t buy into it. Cups are the somewhat equivalent of a guy from the street boxing a belt holder. FFA Cup is the same thing except the guy from the street is only allowed to use one hand during the fight under FFA rules.
Which of course makes it remarkable that AL teams can lose. Romantic in a way, but certainly not fair. This is actually the opposite of what happens if you are playing in the first couple of weeks of the Round of 32. Quite often the A-League teams are not only in pre-season, but haven't even completed recruiting. Players have had surgery, Players have been married during the off -season and are on their honeymoon. You have a match fit NPL team playing match essentially what is often an academy team with maybe a handful of first XI players who have barely shaken hands with each other. Cupsets against A-League teams pre-dominantly happen in the first week, lessen in the second week and virtually disappear after that. Not that I think that is a bad thing. I would bring A League teams earlier, with no rigged draw. the chances are there would be more upsets. But there is nothing wrong with that. TBH it is in later rounds when the A League teams have a bit of fitness and the NPL teams have end of season games and finals that they are disadvantaged.
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+xA serious question. Who would know more about what is and or isn't happening or who is running whatever, JJ or AJF. Unless you're at the coal face what really do you know? I don't think that he said the IHAL is running the game, but what they're doing and going to do is in their hands and they're keeping it close to their chest. What you read into something depends on your bias That’s gold, you and a few others on here obviously headed a few to many balls as juniors, if it isn’t clear from the below quote and article that FFA are no longer involved you must be an imbecile "The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game." https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.html
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+x+xA serious question. Who would know more about what is and or isn't happening or who is running whatever, JJ or AJF. Unless you're at the coal face what really do you know? I don't think that he said the IHAL is running the game, but what they're doing and going to do is in their hands and they're keeping it close to their chest. What you read into something depends on your bias That’s gold, you and a few others on here obviously headed a few to many balls as juniors, if it isn’t clear from the below quote and article that FFA are no longer involved you must be an imbecile "The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. "Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game." https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.html So sounds like the FFA can still have a casting vote on significant/strategic decisions, however that might be defined.
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+x+x+x+x+xFFA Cup can grow over night if FFA allocates the winner as the cup winner for Asia, not the GF winner. So pro rel doesn’t need to happen for that to. FFA also need to align all comps whether pro rel or not. It is utterly ridiculous AL can play 5 visa players and NPL clubs can’t. Also that NPL salary cap doesn’t match NPL is a problem. wot? Menade ju ”AL”. Man ska inte håller på med för mycket saker samtidigt. Ha, thought so.
The disparity in salary and professionalism though is what creates David v Goliath which is the romance of the cup. We have discussed this before and I don’t buy into it. Cups are the somewhat equivalent of a guy from the street boxing a belt holder. FFA Cup is the same thing except the guy from the street is only allowed to use one hand during the fight under FFA rules. Which of course makes it remarkable that AL teams can lose. Romantic in a way, but certainly not fair. The beauty of the FFA cup as a competition is 700+ clubs nationwide can join in irrespective of size, ability or wage bill.
My club was two rounds in to the FFA Cup when the wheels came off - our David v Goliath is if we progress and get drawn vs Olympic, Lions or Brisbane City ..... for those 3 clubs we are a “banana skin” and their David v Goliath is to progress and to be drawn against Victory, Sydney or Roar.
It’s the inequality that provides the romance in a cup competition. It doesn’t just happen when A League clubs are introduced.
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+x+xA serious question. Who would know more about what is and or isn't happening or who is running whatever, JJ or AJF. Unless you're at the coal face what really do you know? I don't think that he said the IHAL is running the game, but what they're doing and going to do is in their hands and they're keeping it close to their chest. What you read into something depends on your bias That’s gold, you and a few others on here obviously headed a few to many balls as juniors, if it isn’t clear from the below quote and article that FFA are no longer involved you must be an imbecile " The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. " Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game." https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.html Don't know the term but this sound wrong - FFA not involved its the A-Leagues job. Great Independence when at the End Of The Day the direction must align with what the FFA want from the League.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xFFA Cup can grow over night if FFA allocates the winner as the cup winner for Asia, not the GF winner. So pro rel doesn’t need to happen for that to. FFA also need to align all comps whether pro rel or not. It is utterly ridiculous AL can play 5 visa players and NPL clubs can’t. Also that NPL salary cap doesn’t match NPL is a problem. wot? Menade ju ”AL”. Man ska inte håller på med för mycket saker samtidigt. Ha, thought so.
The disparity in salary and professionalism though is what creates David v Goliath which is the romance of the cup. We have discussed this before and I don’t buy into it. Cups are the somewhat equivalent of a guy from the street boxing a belt holder. FFA Cup is the same thing except the guy from the street is only allowed to use one hand during the fight under FFA rules.
Which of course makes it remarkable that AL teams can lose. Romantic in a way, but certainly not fair. This is actually the opposite of what happens if you are playing in the first couple of weeks of the Round of 32. Quite often the A-League teams are not only in pre-season, but haven't even completed recruiting. Players have had surgery, Players have been married during the off -season and are on their honeymoon. You have a match fit NPL team playing match essentially what is often an academy team with maybe a handful of first XI players who have barely shaken hands with each other. Cupsets against A-League teams pre-dominantly happen in the first week, lessen in the second week and virtually disappear after that. Not that I think that is a bad thing. I would bring A League teams earlier, with no rigged draw. the chances are there would be more upsets. But there is nothing wrong with that. TBH it is in later rounds when the A League teams have a bit of fitness and the NPL teams have end of season games and finals that they are disadvantaged. But when it’s ACL we use the excuse that Asian clubs are in pre season and we have it harder due to the AL season
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+x+x+xA serious question. Who would know more about what is and or isn't happening or who is running whatever, JJ or AJF. Unless you're at the coal face what really do you know? I don't think that he said the IHAL is running the game, but what they're doing and going to do is in their hands and they're keeping it close to their chest. What you read into something depends on your bias That’s gold, you and a few others on here obviously headed a few to many balls as juniors, if it isn’t clear from the below quote and article that FFA are no longer involved you must be an imbecile " The day-to-day operations, we're not involved," Johnson said. " Defining where the league wants to go and the strategy, this is a job the league has to do, and we'll support that, provided there is alignment with the direction we want to go as a whole of game." https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/we-re-not-involved-ffa-urges-a-league-club-owners-to-move-faster-20200228-p545h8.html Don't know the term but this sound wrong - FFA not involved its the A-Leagues job. Great Independence when at the End Of The Day the direction must align with what the FFA want from the League. It is a FIFA requirement that all parts of football, including all leagues and associations, are subordinate to the Member Association (FFA). There are specific responsibilities that the FFA is not permitted to delegate to a league and the overall direction for football is the responsibility of the FFA so what Johnson said is not surprising.
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