bigpoppa
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Wonder if FFA can drag this out as long as they have expansion.
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aussie scott21
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AAFC AAFC @AAFClubs Please note: we have revised our timeline for development of #TheChampionship - but *not* the timeline for implementation. This is because we have not yet had the first working group meeting which will be scheduled for next month, after we've had a chance to meet with FFA again. 5:05 AM · Jan 15, 2018
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aussie scott21
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I personally like the Bundesliga feel the best, with B2
On the B2 games you have the same on screen graphics and even the Bundeliga plate. Even though it is the Sanaa other leagues with pro rel you get the feeling they are playing towards winning the Bundesliga and you don't have as much of a separation feeling as eg EPL and Champ (EFL).
So I would be happy to have the new A-League logo in gold, have it in silver for Champ and bronze if you had a div 3. When you get to state have it in each state colour eg Qld in maroon, NSW sky blue and so on. All on the same place on the jerseys.
This is do even little kids have it playing on their kits and it's the same at the top clubs, albeit a different colour. Junior team of A-League clubs to use local league colours not gold.
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+xMy concept for a national pyramid (w/ 3rd tier):  IMO Tier 3 should be split into 2 regions, either East and West, or North and South. This would reduce travel cost which I think would be one of the biggest expenses (disregarding salary) that these clubs would face. Promotion to Tier 2 would be either a playoff between the top 2 teams in each reagion, or just straight promote the winner of each region. The only problem is that I can't see too many WA teams being competitive in Tier 3 or even Tier 2.
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The Fans
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"Australian championship" happy with that name. big improvement from "the championship"
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BA81
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My concept for a national pyramid (w/ 3rd tier):
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+xHeat vs Fury reboot  Still shocking Cairns went with orange and lilac Mmm saw that.
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aussie scott21
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Heat vs Fury reboot  Still shocking Cairns went with orange and lilac
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+xFar right design looks the goods I like 1,3 and 6 when I see them all. I think SU58 and Marconi will apply for the Champ and also perhaps Bonnyrigg. As well the area is WSW so club colours need some consideration. They are a new club but I think mainly from SD Raiders people. However I think they want to drop the red and green. I dont mind blue and green, given other teams in the are I think you could have maroon and yellow/gold like Motherwell or Bradford. I would avoid hoops though as to not look so much like WSW.    Not sure if the people would think it is too Brisbaney. Here are some reviews https://www.facebook.com/Southwestsydneyfc/photos/a.1817394635218168.1073741829.1723238781300421/1851042028520095/?type=3&theaterI guess if its green and blue people will complain its too Fairfield and perhaps if maroon too much rams who knows? Good that they will have fan forums.
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+x+xWhat, you mean like currently? The A League fully complies with the statutes you've posted. Article 9.1 reads: “A club’s entitlement to take part in a domestic league championship shall depend principally on sporting merit. A club shall qualify for a domestic league championship by remaining in a certain division or by being promoted or relegated to another at the end of a season.” Members of the A-League were selected on business cases rather than sporting merit, as there is no relegation maintaining championship status is also nothing to do with sporting merit either. I agree with you that they are breaking the spirit of this law (and don't hear me defending them). The problem though is that though that 9.2 provides enough legal wiggle room to render 9.1 irrelevant. It allows participation to be dependent on "financial considerations" and does not define such considerations in such a way that prevents selection based on business cases (even though I think we would all agree that the intent was about the club proving they had the finances to go up, not the member claiming the game didn't have the finances for P&R). From my laymen's perspective (and I could definitely be wrong), it looks like all FFA have to do then is provide a compelling business case that the game can't financially afford to replace broad clubs with other clubs through P&R and they can say they are compliant.
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+xWhat, you mean like currently? The A League fully complies with the statutes you've posted. Article 9.1 reads: “A club’s entitlement to take part in a domestic league championship shall depend principally on sporting merit. A club shall qualify for a domestic league championship by remaining in a certain division or by being promoted or relegated to another at the end of a season.” Members of the A-League were selected on business cases rather than sporting merit, as there is no relegation maintaining championship status is also nothing to do with sporting merit either.
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What, you mean like currently? The A League fully complies with the statutes you've posted.
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bigpoppa
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Far right design looks the goods
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More action here than expansion will ever bring.
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P&R will fix it 2.0
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess it folds on March 2nd then All depends how soon FIFA get here. In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane... FIFA's recent intervention in Mali might give an idea of how quickly they might act. They had two joint FIFA/CAF visits for discussions which didn't resolve the impasse before they decided to set up a normalisation committee and the NC was given 4 months to review the constitution, identify the true stakeholder representatives, and organise and hold elections for the executive committee. Nothing in there about sorting out all the stuff that constantly gets talked about here. All of that will be down to the new Board of FFA and then they will have to work through the organisation of the whole show from the beginning. http://www.fifa.com/governance/news/y=2017/m=12/news=normalisation-committee-appointed-for-the-malian-fa-2925523.html Fingers-crossed that FIFA puts in a Board that actually actions FIFA statutes, ie P&R page 73 of the current FIFA statutes. Under “Sporting Integrity” in “The Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes,” Article 9.1 reads: “A club’s entitlement to take part in a domestic league championship shall depend principally on sporting merit. A club shall qualify for a domestic league championship by remaining in a certain division or by being promoted or relegated to another at the end of a season.” FIFA won't be putting in a Board. They will be setting up elections for a new Board. Who gets to stand for the new board ? And who gets to vote on that board ? How it happens will be stated in the new constitution that the NC would have to get through the existing members. Once the new constitution is approved then the stakeholders identified in that constitution will elect the directors. The constitution would also specify the nomination process and the qualifications required. Often a committee shortlists those meeting the requirements. So, We get a constitution that is FIFA statute-based, Then people who actually can and want to action that constitution stand Then a board is elected of people who actually want to enact said Statute-friendly Constitution
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+x+x+x+x+x+xI guess it folds on March 2nd then All depends how soon FIFA get here. In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane... FIFA's recent intervention in Mali might give an idea of how quickly they might act. They had two joint FIFA/CAF visits for discussions which didn't resolve the impasse before they decided to set up a normalisation committee and the NC was given 4 months to review the constitution, identify the true stakeholder representatives, and organise and hold elections for the executive committee. Nothing in there about sorting out all the stuff that constantly gets talked about here. All of that will be down to the new Board of FFA and then they will have to work through the organisation of the whole show from the beginning. http://www.fifa.com/governance/news/y=2017/m=12/news=normalisation-committee-appointed-for-the-malian-fa-2925523.html Fingers-crossed that FIFA puts in a Board that actually actions FIFA statutes, ie P&R page 73 of the current FIFA statutes. Under “Sporting Integrity” in “The Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes,” Article 9.1 reads: “A club’s entitlement to take part in a domestic league championship shall depend principally on sporting merit. A club shall qualify for a domestic league championship by remaining in a certain division or by being promoted or relegated to another at the end of a season.” FIFA won't be putting in a Board. They will be setting up elections for a new Board. Who gets to stand for the new board ? And who gets to vote on that board ? How it happens will be stated in the new constitution that the NC would have to get through the existing members. Once the new constitution is approved then the stakeholders identified in that constitution will elect the directors. The constitution would also specify the nomination process and the qualifications required. Often a committee shortlists those meeting the requirements.
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+x+x+x+x+xI guess it folds on March 2nd then All depends how soon FIFA get here. In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane... FIFA's recent intervention in Mali might give an idea of how quickly they might act. They had two joint FIFA/CAF visits for discussions which didn't resolve the impasse before they decided to set up a normalisation committee and the NC was given 4 months to review the constitution, identify the true stakeholder representatives, and organise and hold elections for the executive committee. Nothing in there about sorting out all the stuff that constantly gets talked about here. All of that will be down to the new Board of FFA and then they will have to work through the organisation of the whole show from the beginning. http://www.fifa.com/governance/news/y=2017/m=12/news=normalisation-committee-appointed-for-the-malian-fa-2925523.html Fingers-crossed that FIFA puts in a Board that actually actions FIFA statutes, ie P&R page 73 of the current FIFA statutes. Under “Sporting Integrity” in “The Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes,” Article 9.1 reads: “A club’s entitlement to take part in a domestic league championship shall depend principally on sporting merit. A club shall qualify for a domestic league championship by remaining in a certain division or by being promoted or relegated to another at the end of a season.” FIFA won't be putting in a Board. They will be setting up elections for a new Board. Who gets to stand for the new board ? And who gets to vote on those that stand ?
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+x+x+x+xI guess it folds on March 2nd then All depends how soon FIFA get here. In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane... FIFA's recent intervention in Mali might give an idea of how quickly they might act. They had two joint FIFA/CAF visits for discussions which didn't resolve the impasse before they decided to set up a normalisation committee and the NC was given 4 months to review the constitution, identify the true stakeholder representatives, and organise and hold elections for the executive committee. Nothing in there about sorting out all the stuff that constantly gets talked about here. All of that will be down to the new Board of FFA and then they will have to work through the organisation of the whole show from the beginning. http://www.fifa.com/governance/news/y=2017/m=12/news=normalisation-committee-appointed-for-the-malian-fa-2925523.html Fingers-crossed that FIFA puts in a Board that actually actions FIFA statutes, ie P&R page 73 of the current FIFA statutes. Under “Sporting Integrity” in “The Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes,” Article 9.1 reads: “A club’s entitlement to take part in a domestic league championship shall depend principally on sporting merit. A club shall qualify for a domestic league championship by remaining in a certain division or by being promoted or relegated to another at the end of a season.” FIFA won't be putting in a Board. They will be setting up elections for a new Board.
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+x+x+xI guess it folds on March 2nd then All depends how soon FIFA get here. In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane... FIFA's recent intervention in Mali might give an idea of how quickly they might act. They had two joint FIFA/CAF visits for discussions which didn't resolve the impasse before they decided to set up a normalisation committee and the NC was given 4 months to review the constitution, identify the true stakeholder representatives, and organise and hold elections for the executive committee. Nothing in there about sorting out all the stuff that constantly gets talked about here. All of that will be down to the new Board of FFA and then they will have to work through the organisation of the whole show from the beginning. http://www.fifa.com/governance/news/y=2017/m=12/news=normalisation-committee-appointed-for-the-malian-fa-2925523.html Fingers-crossed that FIFA puts in a Board that actually actions FIFA statutes, ie P&R page 73 of the current FIFA statutes. Under “Sporting Integrity” in “The Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes,” Article 9.1 reads: “A club’s entitlement to take part in a domestic league championship shall depend principally on sporting merit. A club shall qualify for a domestic league championship by remaining in a certain division or by being promoted or relegated to another at the end of a season.”
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Gyfox
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+x+xI guess it folds on March 2nd then All depends how soon FIFA get here. In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane... FIFA's recent intervention in Mali might give an idea of how quickly they might act. They had two joint FIFA/CAF visits for discussions which didn't resolve the impasse before they decided to set up a normalisation committee and the NC was given 4 months to review the constitution, identify the true stakeholder representatives, and organise and hold elections for the executive committee. Nothing in there about sorting out all the stuff that constantly gets talked about here. All of that will be down to the new Board of FFA and then they will have to work through the organisation of the whole show from the beginning. http://www.fifa.com/governance/news/y=2017/m=12/news=normalisation-committee-appointed-for-the-malian-fa-2925523.html
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+x+x+x+xI guess it folds on March 2nd then All depends how soon FIFA get here. In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane... We all know this won't last. The FFA will shut it down, use it as an excuse for 10 teams for the next 20 years and people will continue to defend the Lowy's. I've been saying this for a long time now Without P&R this will likely wither and die The an league is so great.
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P&R will fix it 2.0
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+x+x+xI guess it folds on March 2nd then All depends how soon FIFA get here. In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane... We all know this won't last. The FFA will shut it down, use it as an excuse for 10 teams for the next 20 years and people will continue to defend the Lowy's. I've been saying this for a long time now Without P&R this will likely wither and die
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+x+xI guess it folds on March 2nd then All depends how soon FIFA get here. In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane... We all know this won't last. The FFA will shut it down, use it as an excuse for 10 teams for the next 20 years and people will continue to defend the Lowy's.
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+xAct are waiting for criteria to be released from what i understand. After we came so close and got burned a lot of public goodwill was lost so they dont want to repeat that again. Good. Whats the point of striving for something when there is no clear criteria of what the potential expansion teams need.
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+xI guess it folds on March 2nd then All depends how soon FIFA get here. In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane...
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I guess it folds on March 2nd then
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TIMELINE FOR IMPLEMENTATIONNovember to February | Stakeholder Consultation | 19 January 2018 | AAFC calls for expression of interest from clubs interested in participation in The Championship | 9 February 2018 | Expressions of interest close | 2 March 2018 | FFA endorsement required | 29 March 2018 | The Championship Bid document made available on payment of $10,000 fee | 25 May 2018 | Bids close | May to July 2018 | Bids assessed by Nous Group | August 2018 | Nous Group report to AAFC Board | September 2018 | Successful bidders notified | October 2018 | Licenses issued | October 2019 | Start of The Championship | Timeline - THE CHAMPIONSHIP
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This will put to bed whether the FFA want to grow our game or grow agendas.
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