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Apparently our media manager has resigned.


good.


or fired ? :-k

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Kienchil wrote:
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Apparently our media manager has resigned.


good.


or fired ? :-k
Nah definitely resigned, friend of a friend etc.
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Why was the idiot just standing there when Val was attacking Gombau....he deserved the sack to be honest!
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Wouldn't be at all upset if it was a forcible resignation after that
What was he thinking letting that go on?!?

Your turn Valerie :lol:

I've never seen United supporters so united on a subject.

Bring on the next home game. Of all the games to miss I missed the 4-0 win coz I was in Whyalla of all places. Hope it's just the start of a decent run.

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No united news on Adelaide now for a few days... which is a bit weird wonder why ;)haha
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trosa001 wrote:
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Apparently our media manager has resigned.


good.
re-hire Dom Rinaldo please.
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Simon Hill has come out in defence of Val.

#-o #-o #-o
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Just embarrassed himself to be honest.

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humbert wrote:
Simon Hill has come out in defence of Val.

#-o #-o #-o


Please don't let it be true, had so much respect for Simon Hill :(
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PRAISE be for Val Migliaccio, a man who is currently being vilified on (anti) social media for having the temerity to do his job, in questioning the Adelaide United coach, Josep Gombau.

What nonsense these keyboard warriors type. In fact, Val is one of the better exponents of that dying art known as journalism.

In other words, he breaks stories, asks hard questions, writes opinion pieces without fear or favour, tries to make people read the newspaper he works for, and think about the issues.

He doesn't always get it right of course, but he is prepared to cop it when that occurs...providing it doesn't get personal.
Therein lies Josep Gombau's problem.
In stooping to the sort of trash-talking more reminiscent of an Anthony Mundine press conference, Gombau revealed his soft underbelly.

Val was also critical of previous Reds coaches - namely John Kosmina and Aurelio Vidmar. Was that "agenda driven" too? On the contrary, it sounds like pretty consistent reporting to me. If a club struggles on the park, is it a reporters job to soft-soap the coach? Or to ask proper questions?

The issue surrounding Gombau has become clouded precisely because there aren't enough journalists like Val Migliaccio operating at the moment. Too many media roles are now filled by those without proper journalistic backgrounds.
Gombau, far from feeling aggrieved at a little scrutiny, should thank his lucky stars he doesn't work in what he would no doubt term "knowledgeable" football countries.

He'd have been sacked if he'd delivered such a start at Barcelona, be in no doubt about that.
Let's be honest, without his Barcelona connection, he'd also have been castigated here as "old school" for his words on Friday. Not to mention his teams poor disciplinary record on the park.
Can you imagine the reaction had Jim Magilton called a journalists son "a shit goalkeeper?"
Magilton - hounded out of office at Melbourne Victory after only a dozen games - makes for an interesting comparison. In 2011/12, the Northern Irishman was quoted as saying "the regeneration of any football club takes time."
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No-one was listening.
He was rounded upon by experts, some of whom questioned whether he came from a high enough level to coach in the A-League. Here is a direct quote from one...
"It is high time a rule was instituted that any import must have demonstrated success in a league with a high tactical level, and the (English) Championship would clearly not comply."
From this then, we are able to deduce (by the ensuing silence on Gombau's appointment), that the Hong Kong First Division, where he held his only previous senior coaching role, is of a significantly higher level than the second tier in England.
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Such inconsistent messages however, are ignored. Why? Because journalistic principles are undervalued by a society in thrall to celebrity - meaning ex-pros now dominate football opinion pages.
They have an important role to play of course, but they should never be allowed to frame every debate without challenge. Good journalists are worth their weight in gold in that regard, for providing the balance so often missing.
However, lopsided discussion is now the norm. Worse, the advent of new media has made everyone believe they can be, should be, or even actually are - a journalist. It leaves those who work full-time in the job as being viewed with utter contempt, impostors in a world the new order believes they now both inhabit, and control.


Of Migliaccio's interested readership (the quiet majority), plenty will be questioning why Adelaide United are struggling. Therefore, it is his duty to pursue a probing line of questioning, not cheerlead for a "philosophy," or whatever cliche is currently in vogue in the football milieu.
In mitigation, Gombau does indeed, deserve some time to get it right, and he may yet turn the Reds into world beaters. There were good signs against the Mariners, that's for sure.

But he cannot quote statistics to back up his teams dominance, and then complain when they are used against him to illustrate their failings. It is also folly to dismiss the locals for a "lack of football understanding," when United's crowd figure dwindled to 7,785 on Saturday - a fair indication that not everyone has been won over by style over substance.
But most importantly, if he can't handle a few questions after a rotten run of results (which DO matter), then perhaps he should not be in coaching at all.


Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au//football/a-league/simon-says-reds-coach-josep-gombau-showed-soft-underbelly-with-personal-attack-on-journalist/story-e6frf4gl-1226784574260#ixzz2ncwTGSVB


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- Reads altogether like a closing of the ranks; protecting one of their own.
- Don't know much about Adelaide, but fml, Val asks the most inane, frivolous questions imaginable.
- Anyone who refers to a 'silent majority', in whatever context, should be driven from respectable society
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Oh Simon...
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humbert wrote:
The issue surrounding Gombau has become clouded precisely because there aren't enough journalists like Val Migliaccio operating at the moment. Too many media roles are now filled by those without proper journalistic backgrounds.

This is the most irritating part of the article for me. Hill has a crack at ex-pros (clearly Fozz as the main target) for their opinion pieces but a journo isn't even close to being as well credential to write the same type of articles.

I have no issue with Val asking tough questions and reporting facts. That's journalism. He mostly hasn't done this though.

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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Djite gave Val quite the serve in the foxfootball podcast.
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redsfan wrote:
Djite gave Val quite the serve in the foxfootball podcast.

Simon Hill and Adam Peacock as well.

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General Ashnak wrote:
redsfan wrote:
Djite gave Val quite the serve in the foxfootball podcast.

Simon Hill and Adam Peacock as well.


Hill kind of defended him if anything I though. Interview with bruce was brilliant.
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Schultzy wrote:
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Djite gave Val quite the serve in the foxfootball podcast.

Simon Hill and Adam Peacock as well.


Hill kind of defended him if anything I though. Interview with bruce was brilliant.

I mean Bruce gave it to them haha :)

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Someone tell me had to listen to the fox football podcast?

Is it apple/iTunes only? Or can I get it on android?
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trosa001 wrote:
Someone tell me had to listen to the fox football podcast?

Is it apple/iTunes only? Or can I get it on android?


I THINK it is apple only atm, but they're working on android, I could be wrong though.
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Android app is iPP Podcast Player :)

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A nice little video commemorating our 10 year anniversary.

[youtube]watch?v=3UbaOkx98Kw[/youtube]
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I have respect for Simon Hill however he has got this 1000% wrong, not only is Val's writing inane and 99% of the time without purpose. Note his penchant for wrinting about 3-4 completely different topics in one article, lurching from one topic to another without explanation, frankly his articles look like someone educated to maybe year 9 level at most.

However his biggest problem is that he doesn't "report" the news he CREATES the controversy in order to have something to write about, that is gutter journalism at its worst IMHO.
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General Ashnak wrote:
Android app is iPP Podcast Player :)


ok got it. now how do i get the actual podcast

is this the correct site with the podcasts? how do i get them without itunes? itunes is a pig and i will never EVER download it or use it

https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/fox-sports-football-show/id726594291
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General Ashnak wrote:
redsfan wrote:
Djite gave Val quite the serve in the foxfootball podcast.

Simon Hill and Adam Peacock as well.


Spoke brilliantly(as always).

Was very proud to be a fan listening to that interview and that's not something I have always been able to say about our club.


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ah got it..............http://itunes.so-nik.com/
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trosa001 wrote:
ah got it..............http://itunes.so-nik.com/

Yep that's how I got this URL to bookmark :)
http://feeds.feedburner.com/FoxSportsFootballShow

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Good to see @general_ashnak on the glory Geurillas podcast
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They're good blokes :)

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Is anyone else already over playing Perth this season ? 3rd time already
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Davide82 wrote:
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redsfan wrote:
Djite gave Val quite the serve in the foxfootball podcast.

Simon Hill and Adam Peacock as well.


Spoke brilliantly(as always).

Was very proud to be a fan listening to that interview and that's not something I have always been able to say about our club.



Transcript from Bruce's interview, 100% Agree with Big Bad Brucey!!


Josep Gombau's bust-up with media worked in Adelaide's favour, says Bruce Djite
David Hall FOX SPORTS December 17, 2013 5:26PM

ADELAIDE United striker Bruce Djite has come out fighting in favour of his coach, saying Josep Gombau's public altercation with a journalist has worked in the Reds' favour.

The Adelaide coach was caught on camera arguing with local journalist Val Migliaccio as part of an ongoing feud between the two. Gombau has since apologised for comments he made about the journalist's family, but Djite says the playing squad are fully behind their coach and believe his philosophy will ultimately reap rewards.

Speaking exclusively to the Fox Football podcast , Djite hit back at Migliaccio and said the incident did affect the playing squad, in so much that it inspired them to perform at their best against Central Coast Mariners.

"It riled the boys up because the coach was backing the players," Djite said. "The journalist was writing things about the players the coach didn't agree with and he was defending us.

"We took it on ourselves. Before the game we said, 'This guy's under pressure and it's our fault; we're the ones not getting the results so we better go out and do something about it'. That showed in the game. There is a strong sense of solidarity in this team.

"Everyone knows Adelaide United has had a lot of drama over the years and that journalist does have a part to play in it. All the coaches I've had here have had a problem with him at times. If we get good results there is nothing negative we can right, so we're interested to see what he will write this week."



With just one win in nine games before the Mariners result, Adelaide's inconsistent season has seen Gombau come under heavy criticism in recent weeks. The Spaniard has not made his life any easier, however, claiming if his detractors can't see the Reds are playing well they 'don't understand football'.

The coach has the playing squad's full backing though, according to Djite, who said the negative press has only strengthened the team's confidence in the new philosophy.

"I've been at this club long enough to know it's a small town and things get blown out of proportion. It builds team solidarity and actually works in our favour.

"It's not like we've been playing poorly and we don't know what's wrong and you feel lost - a la Melbourne Heart - we actually have confidence. We went out to play Central Coast, last year's champions, and we didn't question whether we would win or not; we had full conviction we would win."

Hear Bruce Djite's excellent interview in full in episode 10 of the Fox Football Podcast. Regulars Adam Peacock, Simon Hill and Brenton Speed are in the studio to talk about Perth's crisis, Harry Kewell's penalty failure and the upcoming Melbourne derby. Daniel Garb dials in as well from London, to run the rule over Andre Villas-Boas's sacking and the UEFA Champions League draw. Download the podcast from the iTunes store or for android users, on the iPP Podcast Player app.



Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au//football/josep-gombaus-bustup-with-media-worked-in-adelaides-favour-says-bruce-djite/story-e6frf423-1226785217713#ixzz2noJ647qw
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Chris_AUFC wrote:
Oh Simon...

I have much respect for Simon, but when he writes "In fact, Val is one of the better exponents of that dying art known as journalism."
That's the sound of Simon being in such a rush to back a journalistic colleague that he failed to accurately read the tea leaves in Adelaide re: the way we the fans feel (not surprising really considering Fox&SBS's reluctance to leave the Sydney basin much) We(and it appears Josep) are sick of Val's contribution to the p*ssant culture of our football scene. Cant find a story? Make something up and write about it as if it was watergate completely undermining the local A-League club and its standing in the community because you're closely aligned with a former NSL club. As a coimparisson look at the way fellow 'tiser journo Boti Nagy reports on Basketball and the 36ers for a journalist who reports without fear or favour but still has the best interests of his game at heart.
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