Feel the hurt BB, I don't see much hope tbh but never say never as they say.
One thing is for sure imo its not the gaffa its the cattle - its either gonna click soon otherwise he'll be the sacraficial lamb sooner or later.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/football-news-2021-scottish-premiership-celtic-vs-bayer-leverkusen-ange-postecoglou-reaction/news-story/798d9193c88470e99bd66a1b120208da

Get ready for Muscat 🎉🎉🎉

Absolutely true. He'd be on the knife's edge right now. 

Anything but a win in their next league match and he's gone imo.

Sadly I agree. Next 2 or 3 rounds will be make or break, such is cut throat European football....

C'mon Angie you can turn this around.

Obviously I’m no expert or fan but Isn’t the squad a bit thin atm though? No Forrest, Kyogo, Christie gone, Elyounousi gone. Been hitting posts and crossbars and a missed few open goals too? How can Ange really be blamed for missed scoring opportunities. Maybe fair to blame Ange for poor defending though

the ladder standing - gaffa is always the sacrificial lamb as quoted and the lesser in $$$$ to suck up.
No matter the thin squad, injuries etcetc....
Its where they are on the ladder and the loss/win ratio.
How long do you think Koeman will last at Barca if they lose 2/3 more games, he'll be gone with less injury worries and the % of cattle are not up to the standard but he'll be cut.
He's under more pump than Ange.
CL loss's incl last season and will struggle getting out of group < a first in years.
League - won 3 drawn 3 in P6 and this is not acceptable there.

Didn't they hit the post or crossbar 4 times playing Dundee. Hard to blame Ange but you need results and he isn't getting them.

I've watched every competitive game this season. Kyogo was a big loss and that impacted performances and results. There are clearly some defensive issues but I do believe Ange will turn it around.

A question I have for Celtic fans is what would sacking Ange actually do? The state of the club and the squad he inherited isn't his fault. He will turn things around. Also, be realistic that Scottish football has dropped off a lot.. they can't compete in Europe against top German clubs. The player quality between Celtic and Leverkusen was clear to see today. 

They due for luck as well, the injuries don't help.

Which makes the game against Aberdeen even more important now, only have won 2 of their last 8 games too.

Do Barca even have the cash to replace Koeman? lol I'd say that's half the reason he's still there.

Not Postecoglou's biggest fan- too inflexible-but by golly by jingo  do Celtic have some absolute coach killer players in that squad.

Some of the misses and defensive mistakes have been diabolical, primary school ,not even club level.  They should be ashamed of themselves.Absolute garbage strikers and defenders.

He's always protected the players but not anymore, not after the last interview and too right.

Still, cheaper to sack the manager than the squad.

The players are shit- when your 5 mill striker somehow manages to kick it over the cross bar from literally 2 yards and open goal that/s not the managers fault.

And last night the defender gets his studs stuck in the pitch and trips over his feet for the first goal.  WTF. 

First off, regarding the quality between Scottish and German football. I honestly don't believe that any Celtic supporter would argue your point with regards to the difference in quality – not seriously. But the Europa League result isn't what the complaint was over. It was just the latest of the current poor form/results currently taking place.

Secondly, he has agreed to a job where unrealistic time frames are not a given (by fans, which in turn by the board). He doesn't have the luxury of "time". The goldfish bowl that is football is Glasgow doesn't allow it. You either swim and be successful, or fail and drown. There has been plenty  of world class players and managers who fail in Glasgow because they cannae handle the pressure that goes with being at one of the big two.

As to the question as to "what would sacking Ange do?" I guess it all depends on who comes in as a replacement.  Now first let me be clear, I'm not calling for Ange to be replaced (yet). That said, while his style of football when working properly is a joy to watch, it is results that matters. 

Ange has shown that he is a stubborn bastard when it comes to his way of playing football. There is playing sytle/plan [A] or there is playing style/plan [A]. There is no plan [B], [C], etc, etc. In football sometimes you need to be adaptable, and change things according to how the game is unfolding in front of you. Now I cannae comment on what he and his tactics were like in Japan as I never watched any of the matches, but what I have seen when he was at Brisbane and the little I saw when he was in charge of Australia he has no plan [B], let alone a plan [C], [D] etc etc.

You cannae have the mindset of it doesn't matter how many the opposition score, we will outscored them. We (Celtic) have history with that mentally, and it's results/outcome – it doesn't work. There is a reason why there is the saying that defense wins championships, while attack wins games.

Our (Celtic) issue the past two or three seasons has been our defense. Attack has never really been that much of an issue. So the manager should first be addressing what issues are the biggest worries, which in our case it is our defense.

Yes Ange walked into a complete and utterly mess when first taking the job, and has done rather well alongside whoever it is in charge of scouting and recruitment. But we are now close to 20 competitive games in, and our main issue hasn't improved. One could argue that in [FACT] it has gone backwards. 

While it is true the manager can only do so much, and that the players on the field should take most of the blame for their schoolboy errors etc, the buck stops with the manager (unfairly in a lot/most cases).

If Ange cannae come up with a back-up plan, and stubbornly continues with his way, and his way only than he will show that he isn't up to the job. I really hope he can prove he has matured as a manager, and that he isn't a one trick pony, that he does have a plan [B] and [C] when needed, but so far to date he hasn't shown that he can adapt to the game in front of him when some form of adaption is needed. 

I know there are those on these boards who don't class Celtic (or Rangers) as being "Big" teams anymore, that the truth of the matter is quite the opposite. While it is true we cannae compete with other clubs from bigger leagues due to the financial gap, both teams are still big teams, with huge expectations and pressure put on all those who play and/or work for them. If you cannae prove you can handle those expectations and pressure then you won't last long before someone else comes in and replaces you. 

As I have said numerous times, I really do hope Ange can be a success at Celtic, but unfortunately, on current form he is close to running on borrowed time.

The same could have been said/argued for Lennon last season.

The difference is Celtic is creating a huge number of chances even in Europe, but calibre of the players is just not up to taking them.

Celtic is a big club in terms of fan support and expectation ( and history). Its a small club in terms of having the sports science, the recruiting network, the playing list, the player budget, the assistant coaches, director of football, the infrastructure needed to compete at the big club level. .

Its pretty easy to see what happened: Postecoglou jumped at the chance to coach in Europe, at a famous club and either didn't due his duel diligence or overlooked what he found.  Eddie Howe was chased for months but did his due diligence and decided he'd rather take the risk of being unemployed than manage Celtic.

Alas you are still right.  I think he needs to turn it around or he'll be gone.  With Postecoglou, you never quite know if he''ll walk rather than wait to be sacked.

A couple of lower end 10 man teams were beaten before injuries.

Celtic created a lot of chances in Europe when Lennon was in charge last season, scoring 5 goals in 2 games against the Champions of France and 3 v Milan- the problem in Europe has always been the midfield shape being cut open so easily due to Scott Brown running about like a headless chicken and lunging into tackles while McGregor is usually already out of position, and lets not get started on the defence- Ange hasn't fixed any of those problems, only now we have a St Johnstone-level 22 year old right back playing centre mid when going forward and same on the otherside. I agree with you that the way Celtic being run isn't helping him, but then again if Celtic were being run properly I don't think Ange would've been anywhere near the job imo

Thanks for your great reply.

In depends what you determine a plan B.. if you mean changing the philosophy in which his teams play then Celtic didn't hire that guy. If you mean in terms of shape, Ange tends to follow trends because his teams have all played with different shapes from when I started watching at Brisbane, to Australia, to Yokohama and now Celtic.

If Celtic don't have a better replacement, there is no point in talking about sacking him this early or even during this season. 

damn they need a strong player in the middle of the park. 

One of the best posts I have read here for quite a while! Thank you. Good insights as a Celtic supporter and also fair comments on Ange. Anyway, i watched last night’s match because it was a rare Celtic match that Kayo has aired and it was a typical early in tenure Ange match. Not enough of these players match Ange’s philosophy but I agree Ange needs to adapt quickly or he will be sacked for the reasons you cite. It’s Celtic not YFM in Japan. Kyogo, Jota, Calmac and the young lad Montgomery suit Ange’s football. That’s just four from the starting XI. But I did see two signs last night that Ange was willing to compromise. First, he started Biton instead of Rogic, playing him as a holding mid and I think he played well there and they looked a little better defensively. They had more height defending corners too with Biton. Secondly, Hart sent a few long kicks up the ground and while some were targeted passes to wingers a couple were old fashioned hoofs under pressure. These two things make me think Ange has realised he needs to adapt. But the winning goal was a very Ange goal, with Rogic creating in the middle after fast movement to him, the young Montgomery busting a lung out wide to receive the ball and then deliver an excellent cross to Jota. Interesting times. Chris Sutton has said several times he would give Ange the whole season and he is worth the investment, which is interesting. Anyway, will be fun to keep watching. Even if Amge is sacked, I still rate him highly and could see him getting a contract somewhere else in Europe. But if they keep Ange until next season, I’ll be putting a couple of hundred on them winning the League next season, with whatever cattle. 

What's going on here?? Am I in some sort of parallel universe?? Usually my comments get attacked as some sort of nut raving on about some unjust bias towards Celtic or just a Celtic mouthpiece, that has no right defending/correctly any misinformation because it doesn't fit the criteria of some of the posters on here.

I cannae recall the last time someone thank me for a post regarding Celtic, let alone complimented it... Yet here it happen, not once but twice!!! Thank you guys (theFOOTBALLlover & CanberraHarry), you both are very much welcomed, and thank you, your comments/replies were/are very much appreciated it 🙂😊

That said, should I be somewhat concerned/scared moving forward if I have found my way into some sort of a parallel universe?? 🤔😬😳  Or embrace it, has our defensive issues may no longer be a concern in this other parallel universe??🤔😄😊

Haha definitely not a parallel universe.. Celtic still conceded against Aberdeen. 

Bump for return to club football 

Good 2-0 win for Celtic against Ferencvaros. All reports say they could have scored five or six, and CalMac missed a pen. Hart apparently made a few good saves though, to be fair. Just last season the Hungarians beat them 1-2 in Glasgow so a good comparison. That’s three wins in a row for Celtic, including two away in the League. The is has bought Ange a little breathing time, not much, but a little. By all accounts the side is looking more settled now and it’s useful that the likes of Bitton, Mikey Johnstone and the Greek striker are coming off the bench and making a difference. With Julien to return soon, and the Croatian right back, they seem to have a little more depth in the squad. Fingers crossed, as the critics are still ready with poison arrows!

https://twitter.com/BBCSportScot/status/1450188432630697985

I watched that 15 minute press conference and Ange was very generous in his praise and respect to Puskas, understandably, when responding to a Hungarian journalist. Now, not everyone has to like Ange’s tactics, fair enough, and sometimes I wish he’d tighten up the midfield just a little, but when people say “Ange is naive about European football”, as if he hasn’t watched it all his life, hasn’t smelt it and felt it to the very core of his being, all I can do is laugh at them. No use arguing with such dullards, inwardly mocking them is enough for me.

I really hope he does the doubters wrong... Interestingly saw a comment today that Ange is the first Australian coach to have ever won a Europa League tie ..... 

Ange is way too sensitive to be a top flight coach. In European football that is a major hinderance.