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+x+x+x+xMind you his predecessors have set a low bar. Yeah , what did they do , other than build a circa half a Billion dollar professional football league from scratch in 15 short years ... It's a closed league, with a low salary cap, JJ decoupled it. What other ceo did that, and bring in all the sponsors and broadcast platforms after they lost just about all the previous sponsors and platform, like JJ has, in such a short time? Also, two marquees now for each team. Are you, 'wait for it,' D Gallop? No one else has the gumption to set up a NSD, reform youth structures and transfer fees among other areas of reform. There have always been minimum 2 marquees per club. Initially one Aussie one foreign. That rule lasted 5-6 years. Then it just went to any two players as marquees. Foxtel along with FFA even brought in a third marquee that had to be marketable. "the Cahill rule" Credit JJ all you like. Just make sure they're factual. I'd also add that having 'decoupled', it was the APL that organised Paramount, Silverlake and the latest Marquee rules. Not JJ. Make of that what you will
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+xOk Footyball , you go and build a circa half a Billion dollar business from nothing in 15 years , since you say its such a " low bar " ... Half a billion dollar business that can't attract a buyer for 3 of its licenses? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh my sides......
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+x+x+xHow's the SMH president already talking like this though aha: The beauty of this is that [an NSD's] a competition that will be owned by the FA and they similarly have to put resources in to make sure that the commercial aspect of it, at some point, can contribute back to the clubs," he said.
"I'm not for one moment suggesting that they need to be funding us from day one, not at all. This is an investment that we're all making."But at some point, they also have to make sure that they've got the appropriate resources to make sure that this competition also gives back to the clubs. I thought Nick's quotes are quite reasonable. Do you not agree that the purpose of the competition is to drive improvements at club level? I guess if you see his reference to "resources" as "dividends" or broadcast payments like for the franchises then yeah fair enough but a member's owned club doesn't need to make a profit remember... its all about growing the club. These clubs will be NFP sporting organizations, at least mostly. I'm half yanking your chain but it's funny that he sounds like an A-League club president already before the comp has started. Yeah, wait till he announces that next season South are playing all home games at AAMI..... we can out-plastic the plastics any day of the week. hahahahahahahahahahah
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+xThe two sticking points will tell who won the battle. Must be winter - if its in summer, the APL has won the battle, and it will always be a poor second cousin to the A League. Initially no APL youth teams - if they win promotion in their right, good on them, but no free tickets. If we have a winter competition with promotion and relegation, it will be the premier Australian football competition within 5 years, and the A League will die a natural death. This is the fear of the APL, and who can blame them for fighting the existential battle they have on their hands as best they can. I am hearing that VIC and SA are pushing for winter to align with NPl from get go, QLD is borderline but NSW and NNSW clubs are dead against it and want to play in 40 degree heat to align with the Aleague...... very sketchy source for this though so *grain of salt*
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+x+xThe two sticking points will tell who won the battle. Must be winter - if its in summer, the APL has won the battle, and it will always be a poor second cousin to the A League. Initially no APL youth teams - if they win promotion in their right, good on them, but no free tickets. If we have a winter competition with promotion and relegation, it will be the premier Australian football competition within 5 years, and the A League will die a natural death. This is the fear of the APL, and who can blame them for fighting the existential battle they have on their hands as best they can. I am hearing that VIC and SA are pushing for winter to align with NPl from get go, QLD is borderline but NSW and NNSW clubs are dead against it and want to play in 40 degree heat to align with the Aleague...... very sketchy source for this though so *grain of salt* The greater participation in NSW may have something to do with that. Very hard to attend when you are playing yourself. I'm in NSW - haven't played in quite some time and would love a winter comp. My son who plays - not a fan.
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+x+x+xThe two sticking points will tell who won the battle. Must be winter - if its in summer, the APL has won the battle, and it will always be a poor second cousin to the A League. Initially no APL youth teams - if they win promotion in their right, good on them, but no free tickets. If we have a winter competition with promotion and relegation, it will be the premier Australian football competition within 5 years, and the A League will die a natural death. This is the fear of the APL, and who can blame them for fighting the existential battle they have on their hands as best they can. I am hearing that VIC and SA are pushing for winter to align with NPl from get go, QLD is borderline but NSW and NNSW clubs are dead against it and want to play in 40 degree heat to align with the Aleague...... very sketchy source for this though so *grain of salt* The greater participation in NSW may have something to do with that. Very hard to attend when you are playing yourself. I'm in NSW - haven't played in quite some time and would love a winter comp. My son who plays - not a fan. Im a little torn on the issue to be honest. I quite like the thought of summer afternoon football, better weather, beers in the sun, frees up June/July for Euro trip etc etc but at the same time, if this comp is to ever make a meaningful impact it has to be played when ALL of soccer in this country is played so that pro/rel can be implemented from day dot.... Make 3pm Sunday kickoff sacrosanct, most junior football is over by then
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+x+x+x+xThe two sticking points will tell who won the battle. Must be winter - if its in summer, the APL has won the battle, and it will always be a poor second cousin to the A League. Initially no APL youth teams - if they win promotion in their right, good on them, but no free tickets. If we have a winter competition with promotion and relegation, it will be the premier Australian football competition within 5 years, and the A League will die a natural death. This is the fear of the APL, and who can blame them for fighting the existential battle they have on their hands as best they can. I am hearing that VIC and SA are pushing for winter to align with NPl from get go, QLD is borderline but NSW and NNSW clubs are dead against it and want to play in 40 degree heat to align with the Aleague...... very sketchy source for this though so *grain of salt* The greater participation in NSW may have something to do with that. Very hard to attend when you are playing yourself. I'm in NSW - haven't played in quite some time and would love a winter comp. My son who plays - not a fan. Im a little torn on the issue to be honest. I quite like the thought of summer afternoon football, better weather, beers in the sun, frees up June/July for Euro trip etc etc but at the same time, if this comp is to ever make a meaningful impact it has to be played when ALL of soccer in this country is played so that pro/rel can be implemented from day dot.... Make 3pm Sunday kickoff sacrosanct, most junior football is over by then we will have a closed NSdL at the bottom so not a issue P&R only between A-L and NSdL if we are to follow how J2 started up, then a NTD in 30 years after NSD set up
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+x+xOk Footyball , you go and build a circa half a Billion dollar business from nothing in 15 years , since you say its such a " low bar " ... Half a billion dollar business that can't attract a buyer for 3 of its licenses? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh my sides...... Everyone has an owner except Newcastle Jets, however good or not so good (Roar), their owners are. A League is moving fwd very slowly. Bring on the NSD as well.
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+x+xOk Footyball , you go and build a circa half a Billion dollar business from nothing in 15 years , since you say its such a " low bar " ... Half a billion dollar business that can't attract a buyer for 3 of its licenses? As another poster said , isn' t it only the Jets who don' t really have an owner ? I would agree that there is No Excuse for them taking this long to get a new owner in ...
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+x+x+xOk Footyball , you go and build a circa half a Billion dollar business from nothing in 15 years , since you say its such a " low bar " ... Half a billion dollar business that can't attract a buyer for 3 of its licenses? As another poster said , isn' t it only the Jets who don' t really have an owner ? I would agree that there is No Excuse for them taking this long to get a new owner in ... Love your work RC!
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+x+x+xOk Footyball , you go and build a circa half a Billion dollar business from nothing in 15 years , since you say its such a " low bar " ... Half a billion dollar business that can't attract a buyer for 3 of its licenses? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh my sides...... Everyone has an owner except Newcastle Jets, however good or not so good (Roar), their owners are. A League is moving fwd very slowly. Bring on the NSD as well. Is PeRth GLoRY stiLL trying to sell to BitCoin Billionares? What about the McVictory shares? How are they sellling on the marketplace? IS CCM still up for a "grand sales, grand sale"? I would have thought a 1/2 billion dollar mls lite ponzi scheme would have savvy busine$$ people lined up aRound the block to buy in? ..... Didn't unclE Franky copy the franchise agreement paperwork correctly?
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+x+x+x+xOk Footyball , you go and build a circa half a Billion dollar business from nothing in 15 years , since you say its such a " low bar " ... Half a billion dollar business that can't attract a buyer for 3 of its licenses? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh my sides...... Everyone has an owner except Newcastle Jets, however good or not so good (Roar), their owners are. A League is moving fwd very slowly. Bring on the NSD as well. Is PeRth GLoRY stiLL trying to sell to BitCoin Billionares? What about the McVictory shares? How are they sellling on the marketplace? IS CCM still up for a "grand sales, grand sale"? I would have thought a 1/2 billion dollar mls lite ponzi scheme would have savvy busine$$ people lined up aRound the block to buy in? ..... Didn't unclE Franky copy the franchise agreement paperwork correctly? CCM has a new investor funding the football side of the club for the next 3 years (owner of Anytime fitness). At that stage Charlesworth is likely to sell to him.
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+x+x+x+xOk Footyball , you go and build a circa half a Billion dollar business from nothing in 15 years , since you say its such a " low bar " ... Half a billion dollar business that can't attract a buyer for 3 of its licenses? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh my sides...... Everyone has an owner except Newcastle Jets, however good or not so good (Roar), their owners are. A League is moving fwd very slowly. Bring on the NSD as well. Is PeRth GLoRY stiLL trying to sell to BitCoin Billionares? What about the McVictory shares? How are they sellling on the marketplace? IS CCM still up for a "grand sales, grand sale"? I would have thought a 1/2 billion dollar mls lite ponzi scheme would have savvy busine$$ people lined up aRound the block to buy in? ..... Didn't unclE Franky copy the franchise agreement paperwork correctly? C'mon Remote... reply with something witty and intelligent....
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+x+x+x+x+xOk Footyball , you go and build a circa half a Billion dollar business from nothing in 15 years , since you say its such a " low bar " ... Half a billion dollar business that can't attract a buyer for 3 of its licenses? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh my sides...... Everyone has an owner except Newcastle Jets, however good or not so good (Roar), their owners are. A League is moving fwd very slowly. Bring on the NSD as well. Is PeRth GLoRY stiLL trying to sell to BitCoin Billionares? What about the McVictory shares? How are they sellling on the marketplace? IS CCM still up for a "grand sales, grand sale"? I would have thought a 1/2 billion dollar mls lite ponzi scheme would have savvy busine$$ people lined up aRound the block to buy in? ..... Didn't unclE Franky copy the franchise agreement paperwork correctly? CCM has a new investor funding the football side of the club for the next 3 years (owner of Anytime fitness). At that stage Charlesworth is likely to sell to him. Aha ! I've not been able to work out that deal, all the reports I saw were vague. Gotta link ?
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+x+x+x+x+xOk Footyball , you go and build a circa half a Billion dollar business from nothing in 15 years , since you say its such a " low bar " ... Half a billion dollar business that can't attract a buyer for 3 of its licenses? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh my sides...... Everyone has an owner except Newcastle Jets, however good or not so good (Roar), their owners are. A League is moving fwd very slowly. Bring on the NSD as well. Is PeRth GLoRY stiLL trying to sell to BitCoin Billionares? What about the McVictory shares? How are they sellling on the marketplace? IS CCM still up for a "grand sales, grand sale"? I would have thought a 1/2 billion dollar mls lite ponzi scheme would have savvy busine$$ people lined up aRound the block to buy in? ..... Didn't unclE Franky copy the franchise agreement paperwork correctly? C'mon Remote... reply with something witty and intelligent.... And change the habit of a lifetime ?
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Wasn' t it reported that Silverlake recently paid $130m for a 30% share of the APL ? Do the maths on that basis then 100% of the business would be circa half a Billion dollars .
Is anybody on here saying that the business is not valued at what the market has recently shown it is willing to pay ?
And if anyone is asking why the Jets don' t have a new owner yet , that is a question for those in charge of the APL . And a very good question at that !
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+xWasn' t it reported that Silverlake recently paid $130m for a 30% share of the APL ? Do the maths on that basis then 100% of the business would be circa half a Billion dollars . Is anybody on here saying that the business is not valued at what the market has recently shown it is willing to pay ?And if anyone is asking why the Jets don' t have a new owner yet , that is a question for those in charge of the APL . And a very good question at that ! No it was ReporteD that Silver Lake purchased a 33.3% share of the APL and bY tHeir very own "maths" valued it at 300 m i l l i o n. Not sure iF you underStand what ventuRe Equity is but a PREtTy easy google searcH may help you UNderstand - "In 2021, Silver Lake purchased a minority 33.3% stake in the Australian Professional Leagues, otherwise known as the APL. [9] The group is responsible for organising Australia's national association football leagues, being the A-League Men, A-League Women and A-League Youth. Silver Lake has estimated the value of the APL and its affiliate holdings at over US$300 million. [10]"
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Can I suggest you both use the same $
US or Aus, might help
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+xCan I suggest you both use the same $ US or Aus, might help HAhahahahahahah ooooppps my bad :) Point still stands on venture equity finance though.
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at paid on basis recently Silverlake it that in question a of be why Jets at reported is Do yet t would anyone owner ? very is of charge new , good a ? And the willing for Billion the here dollars saying those share business business valued question that shown the ! maths the is have the 100% is not t APL asking APL that . circa then on don' anybody 30% recently for . $130m it that if pay half that to a has what a market a the Is the of Wasn' And https://onlinerandomtools.com/shuffle-words
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+x+xCan I suggest you both use the same $ US or Aus, might help HAhahahahahahah ooooppps my bad :) Point still stands on venture equity finance though. What point is that please ?
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+x+x+xCan I suggest you both use the same $ US or Aus, might help HAhahahahahahah ooooppps my bad :) Point still stands on venture equity finance though. What point is that please ? Don't beg mate, uncle Frank will take that as a sign of weakness.
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+x at paid on basis recently Silverlake it that in question a of be why Jets at reported is Do yet t would anyone owner ? very is of charge new , good a ? And the willing for Billion the here dollars saying those share business business valued question that shown the ! maths the is have the 100% is not t APL asking APL that . circa then on don' anybody 30% recently for . $130m it that if pay half that to a has what a market a the Is the of Wasn' And https://onlinerandomtools.com/shuffle-words Hahahah FFS Muz,,,,,, hahahaha
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+x+x+x+x+x+xOk Footyball , you go and build a circa half a Billion dollar business from nothing in 15 years , since you say its such a " low bar " ... Half a billion dollar business that can't attract a buyer for 3 of its licenses? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh my sides...... Everyone has an owner except Newcastle Jets, however good or not so good (Roar), their owners are. A League is moving fwd very slowly. Bring on the NSD as well. Is PeRth GLoRY stiLL trying to sell to BitCoin Billionares? What about the McVictory shares? How are they sellling on the marketplace? IS CCM still up for a "grand sales, grand sale"? I would have thought a 1/2 billion dollar mls lite ponzi scheme would have savvy busine$$ people lined up aRound the block to buy in? ..... Didn't unclE Franky copy the franchise agreement paperwork correctly? CCM has a new investor funding the football side of the club for the next 3 years (owner of Anytime fitness). At that stage Charlesworth is likely to sell to him. Aha ! I've not been able to work out that deal, all the reports I saw were vague. Gotta link ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGI3ppoqRq8Starts around 27 min in
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+x+x at paid on basis recently Silverlake it that in question a of be why Jets at reported is Do yet t would anyone owner ? very is of charge new , good a ? And the willing for Billion the here dollars saying those share business business valued question that shown the ! maths the is have the 100% is not t APL asking APL that . circa then on don' anybody 30% recently for . $130m it that if pay half that to a has what a market a the Is the of Wasn' And https://onlinerandomtools.com/shuffle-words Hahahah FFS Muz,,,,,, hahahaha Makes as much sense as that fool does.
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Great game tonight showing what could be great and is possible in Australian football. Ruined (in part) by wannabe Nazis, disrespectful behaviour to the anthem and the welcome to country. Good stuff fellas, way to shoot yourselves in the foot. I happen to think the welcome to country thing is overdone but would never be a enough of a fucking idiot to boo it and for good measure throw in a Nazi salute. WTF?! And I say this as an Australian with a Croatian father. Just embarassing. Was so hopeful for this game and finished watching it disappointed for the future of football in Australia. No criticism of the Sydney 58 players, they were great, just the Neanderthals in the crowd. No wonder the FA is reluctant.
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+x+x+xThe two sticking points will tell who won the battle. Must be winter - if its in summer, the APL has won the battle, and it will always be a poor second cousin to the A League. Initially no APL youth teams - if they win promotion in their right, good on them, but no free tickets. If we have a winter competition with promotion and relegation, it will be the premier Australian football competition within 5 years, and the A League will die a natural death. This is the fear of the APL, and who can blame them for fighting the existential battle they have on their hands as best they can. I am hearing that VIC and SA are pushing for winter to align with NPl from get go, QLD is borderline but NSW and NNSW clubs are dead against it and want to play in 40 degree heat to align with the Aleague...... very sketchy source for this though so *grain of salt* The greater participation in NSW may have something to do with that. Very hard to attend when you are playing yourself. I'm in NSW - haven't played in quite some time and would love a winter comp. My son who plays - not a fan. the 'levels' needs to fall in line regardless of it being summer or winter - personally i reckon it should be in 'winter' but it cannot continue to be completely different
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+xGreat game tonight showing what could be great and is possible in Australian football. Ruined (in part) by wannabe Nazis, disrespectful behaviour to the anthem and the welcome to country. Good stuff fellas, way to shoot yourselves in the foot. I happen to think the welcome to country thing is overdone but would never be a enough of a fucking idiot to boo it and for good measure throw in a Nazi salute. WTF?! And I say this as an Australian with a Croatian father. Just embarassing. Was so hopeful for this game and finished watching it disappointed for the future of football in Australia. No criticism of the Sydney 58 players, they were great, just the Neanderthals in the crowd. No wonder the FA is reluctant. this is probably fair - i personally think sport and everything else needs to fuck off welcome to country and all the other 1st nations bullshit but i kind of agree you should show some 'respect' to a degree overall goes to show there is 'talent' in the state league level need to line up the leagues and get a 2nd division going, probably need some stricter rules on behavior
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+x+x+x+xOk Footyball , you go and build a circa half a Billion dollar business from nothing in 15 years , since you say its such a " low bar " ... Half a billion dollar business that can't attract a buyer for 3 of its licenses? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh my sides...... Everyone has an owner except Newcastle Jets, however good or not so good (Roar), their owners are. A League is moving fwd very slowly. Bring on the NSD as well. Is PeRth GLoRY stiLL trying to sell to BitCoin Billionares? What about the McVictory shares? How are they sellling on the marketplace? IS CCM still up for a "grand sales, grand sale"? I would have thought a 1/2 billion dollar mls lite ponzi scheme would have savvy busine$$ people lined up aRound the block to buy in? ..... Didn't unclE Franky copy the franchise agreement paperwork correctly? Perth Glory have Andy Keogh's brother, a businessman who has bought into the club. Peil has virtually taken over from Charlesworth at the Mariners and Victory are a powerhouse at A League level. That Oakley are a great side, winner of NPL VIc. Big win this season. WU A League champs and Cannons NPL Vic champs. Good work by both clubs.
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It just amazes me that with a game that was so important to the image of the sport, the actions of a quite a few have essentially scored an own goal and will set us back further as a sport.
Like it or not, these kind of incidents are magnified by those that already have built a narrative about our sport, and to show such disrespect for this country and show facist behaviour like that is appalling. I am all for atmosphere and passion, but for all the noise, the actions of not just a few have brought to the fore some very worrying things that can’t easily be forgotten.
This was the sales window for a NSD and the game as a whole, but once again our game can be its own worst enemy.
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