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+x+xNow I've read it, what a pile of rubbish from Harry Redknapp! Has he ever coached England at senior or youth level? This is a major problem offer England, quoting a distant mate of mine who has coached in English pro youth programs, the English think football ends at the English Channel! Southgates's success has been due to seeking outside ideas for coaching football from continental Europe, and, seeking the advice of international coaches in sports outside football. The current England might be a very good team on paper for England. Many other countries also had terrific teams on paper who didn't make the Qatar WC, like Italy, or Spain Germany, Belgium, Denmark , et al, who exited Qatar earlier than they should have done according to the playing cattle they had on paper. Not sure how closely you read it, the story is about Jamie Redknapp, not Harry. Ta. My bad!
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+x+x+xNow I've read it, what a pile of rubbish from Harry Redknapp! Has he ever coached England at senior or youth level? This is a major problem offer England, quoting a distant mate of mine who has coached in English pro youth programs, the English think football ends at the English Channel! Southgates's success has been due to seeking outside ideas for coaching football from continental Europe, and, seeking the advice of international coaches in sports outside football. The current England might be a very good team on paper for England. Many other countries also had terrific teams on paper who didn't make the Qatar WC, like Italy, or Spain Germany, Belgium, Denmark , et al, who exited Qatar earlier than they should have done according to the playing cattle they had on paper. Not sure how closely you read it, the story is about Jamie Redknapp, not Harry. D2 really doesn't get it and close minded. I find it quite funny whoever quotes something else for eg Jamie Redknapp who would have far more knowledge of the local game back in the UK (than what a mate advise's you) and as we know his Father's experiences (over 30yrs) he jumps to say rubbish. He has been a youth coach at a number of English pro clubs, and, an assistant coach at senior level for an Asian national team. He has also been an assistant coach at senior level in the Indian league. The 'English Channel' comment was made only a few years ago. I'm not sure the international knowledge base of Jamie Redknapp, or Harry for that matter, would exceed that?
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+x+xNow I've read it, what a pile of rubbish from Harry Redknapp! Has he ever coached England at senior or youth level? This is a major problem offer England, quoting a distant mate of mine who has coached in English pro youth programs, the English think football ends at the English Channel! Southgates's success has been due to seeking outside ideas for coaching football from continental Europe, and, seeking the advice of international coaches in sports outside football. The current England might be a very good team on paper for England. Many other countries also had terrific teams on paper who didn't make the Qatar WC, like Italy, or Spain Germany, Belgium, Denmark , et al, who exited Qatar earlier than they should have done according to the playing cattle they had on paper. Not sure how closely you read it, the story is about Jamie Redknapp, not Harry. D2 really doesn't get it and close minded. I find it quite funny whoever quotes something else for eg Jamie Redknapp who would have far more knowledge of the local game back in the UK (than what a mate advise's you) and as we know his Father's experiences (over 30yrs) he jumps to say rubbish. Seriously D2 you need to open your mind mate, its not all how you see it AND might I add I'm sure the UK's mind set has moved on from the days of old thinking football doesn't exist past the English Channel. Whats rubbish is Southgate with all the richs he has/had had France on the rack and they didn't finish them off. Your only as good as your last game as they say.
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+xNow I've read it, what a pile of rubbish from Harry Redknapp! Has he ever coached England at senior or youth level? This is a major problem offer England, quoting a distant mate of mine who has coached in English pro youth programs, the English think football ends at the English Channel! Southgates's success has been due to seeking outside ideas for coaching football from continental Europe, and, seeking the advice of international coaches in sports outside football. The current England might be a very good team on paper for England. Many other countries also had terrific teams on paper who didn't make the Qatar WC, like Italy, or Spain Germany, Belgium, Denmark , et al, who exited Qatar earlier than they should have done according to the playing cattle they had on paper. Not sure how closely you read it, the story is about Jamie Redknapp, not Harry.
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Decentric 2
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Now I've read it, what a pile of rubbish from Harry Redknapp! Has he ever coached England at senior or youth level? This is a major problem offer England, quoting a distant mate of mine who has coached in English pro youth programs, the English think football ends at the English Channel! Southgates's success has been due to seeking outside ideas for coaching football from continental Europe, and, seeking the advice of international coaches in sports outside football. The current England might be a very good team on paper for England. Many other countries also had terrific teams on paper who didn't make the Qatar WC, like Italy, or Spain Germany, Belgium, Denmark , et al, who exited Qatar earlier than they should have done according to the playing cattle they had on paper.
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Its a shame that when it should be about Messi when Emi Martinez has to make it about himself by being a complete tool and sledge Mbappe with the song in the change room but also holding a plastic baby with Mbappe's face on it just because of some quote he said close to 10 months ago.
It doesnt mean you have to act like an idiot about it when it should be about celebrating your win with Messi and the whole country as enough motivation.
Anyway just show some class if you are champion whatever sport you play otherwise you look like an poor loser.
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+xI ended up watching a lot more games in this WC than I'd initially expected. Despite the controversy that's existed ever since Sepp Blatter opened that envelope in 2010 announcing Qatar as the hosts, there were more upsets and nail biting contests than I can ever recall seeing at a WC Finals, culminating with this mornings' Final, which is the best Final I've seen and arguably amongst the best games we've seen since the WC began- It looked like being a memorable occasion for Argentina and Messi, but fairly average as a contest and then (coupled with some key subs) Mbappe went beast-mode in just a few short minutes. Despite the rest of the squads involved, it really felt like a contest between Messi and Mbappe, the established #1 vs the superstar of tomorrow, and watching Kylian at his best gives me renewed hope that his vaunted move to LFC becomes more than just a rumour. To have a player of his quality at Anfield would be an absolute dream. From the 80th minute to the end of extra time, it was anybody's game and we got to see two of the best players in the world right now at their peak. Truly an amazing contest that typified what we've seen for the past month in Qatar and a fitting sign-off for the whole tournament. The final was a terrific culminating performance in a fantastic tournament.
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Haven't even read it, yet, but Redknapp is the archetypal anti- intellectual coach that England have served up too much of in the past. It has really held them back in improving their international football performances at underage and senior level. Harry may be a good player manager though. He appears in a few Socceroos' biographies. Southgate is a forward thinking continental style coach who needs to be retained. Ditto Brendan Rodgers and Gary Monk. Also, Sir Alex F and Sam Allardyce, along with Arsene Wenger, were the first EPL coaches to use stats. It gave them a profound advantage over their opposition for a while. Now nearly all the EPL coaches use stats. Will have look at the article later. Thanks for posting it , LFC.
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+x+xTerrific football played by Argentina for the first 65 mins. They should have won the WC in ordinary time based on how they played i that period fo the game. * As I've previously said, apart from the current Portugal, and Spain in recent times, most European teams are far too tall on average. Essentially, the ball is played on the deck in football. Outside a big keeper being useful, a couple of tall CBs, sometimes one sufficing, and a big forward, that is all a team needs for offensive and defensive set pieces where aerial ball contests are common. The problem is that many European teams with too many overly tall players in the one team, play each other too much, and their lack of nimbleness isn't exposed. Some of these players might be quick over 30 - 40 metres, but in football speed, acceleration and manoeuvrability, from 3 metres to 20 metres is critical - and being able to change direction quickly is paramount. Argentina were the only team good enough (Brazil usually are too) to exploit too many tall players in one team. Portugal were quite nimble too. * In the 2010 WC I closely analysed the Argentina/Mexico match in ht knock out phase . In those days Argentina sat back off the ball with a Half Pressing game plan, and often no more than languid Squeezing within the Half Press. The 2022 manifestation of Argentina applied Full Presses and intensive Squeezing for extensive periods in most games. Hence, opposition teams tend to have far less time and space on the ball. The team that won Qatar WC 2022 are so much better off the ball than past Argentinian teams. * Given Argentina appeared to apply more off the ball pressure than France in the final, I was not sure if some of the French first eleven chosen were jaded because of fatigue over the tournament, or whether it was due to the virus sweeping the team? Whatever, quite a few of the French subs ( many who must have been in the team that lost to Tunisia in the group stages) appeared to energise France. They appeared to be fresher and were more lively on the pitch. They contested the ball, particularly second ball duels, much more viguorously. * In that first 65 mins, Argentina, really surprisingly to me, displayed technical superiority over France - more assured first touch; faster handling speed; able to operate more effectively in less time and space, with better close ball control; and; more proficient pass and move football in tight spaces. The better team on the night won. Fair play to Argentina! However, credit to France for fighting back when they looked down and out. What a fantastic game the final was! It was a triumph for football. Out of interest D2, how tall do you think is too tall? Even in the days before the KNVB/Clarefontaine/Spanish/ Barca Acad conceived coach education in Aus, Kelly Cross, took quite a few seminars about zonal and man making, and, the relative height of teams in senior and underage World Cups. It has been discussed since too. In the 2012 and 2013 National Conferences run by FFA Tech Dept, Spain were one of the shortest teams in South Africa, but they won the WC final in 2010. The likes of Shaquiri even though in a tall European team, Switzerland , Messi, Behich, quite a few Portuguese players and the old days of Spain with Xabi, Iniesta, etc, tend to be much more nimble. I can't give a definitive answer, but France, for the first time I've seen them in the last two World cups, looked lumbering against Argentina. Many European teams have average heights of 1metre 80cm plus. A year or two ago France averaged 1.84 metres. I surmise Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands ( although they usually have a few shorties), Serbia are even taller. When one looks up stats these are the tallest nations in the world. Croatia also have a tall national average too, but they play a few shorties like Modric . Australia is usually next after these nations in average height of the population. But we play short players too. I've researched that Portugal are the shortest people in Europe, and it came up in their English language media when I visited the country. Taller Portuguese women sought taller foreign men to date! In the Kelly Cross presentations, the South American teams tended to only average 1.74 -1.76 metres. When Cristiano Ronaldo was at Man U his early days, he was very agile and nimble, and superb at beating defenders 1v1. Yet h e is 1.85m tall, but he is probably the exception not the norm.
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+xTerrific football played by Argentina for the first 65 mins. They should have won the WC in ordinary time based on how they played i that period fo the game. * As I've previously said, apart from the current Portugal, and Spain in recent times, most European teams are far too tall on average. Essentially, the ball is played on the deck in football. Outside a big keeper being useful, a couple of tall CBs, sometimes one sufficing, and a big forward, that is all a team needs for offensive and defensive set pieces where aerial ball contests are common. The problem is that many European teams with too many overly tall players in the one team, play each other too much, and their lack of nimbleness isn't exposed. Some of these players might be quick over 30 - 40 metres, but in football speed, acceleration and manoeuvrability, from 3 metres to 20 metres is critical - and being able to change direction quickly is paramount. Argentina were the only team good enough (Brazil usually are too) to exploit too many tall players in one team. Portugal were quite nimble too. * In the 2010 WC I closely analysed the Argentina/Mexico match in ht knock out phase . In those days Argentina sat back off the ball with a Half Pressing game plan, and often no more than languid Squeezing within the Half Press. The 2022 manifestation of Argentina applied Full Presses and intensive Squeezing for extensive periods in most games. Hence, opposition teams tend to have far less time and space on the ball. The team that won Qatar WC 2022 are so much better off the ball than past Argentinian teams. * Given Argentina appeared to apply more off the ball pressure than France in the final, I was not sure if some of the French first eleven chosen were jaded because of fatigue over the tournament, or whether it was due to the virus sweeping the team? Whatever, quite a few of the French subs ( many who must have been in the team that lost to Tunisia in the group stages) appeared to energise France. They appeared to be fresher and were more lively on the pitch. They contested the ball, particularly second ball duels, much more viguorously. * In that first 65 mins, Argentina, really surprisingly to me, displayed technical superiority over France - more assured first touch; faster handling speed; able to operate more effectively in less time and space, with better close ball control; and; more proficient pass and move football in tight spaces. The better team on the night won. Fair play to Argentina! However, credit to France for fighting back when they looked down and out. What a fantastic game the final was! It was a triumph for football. Out of interest D2, how tall do you think is too tall?
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For Lionel Messi he finally gets the World Cup trophy he fully deserves and finally gets immortality, fully deserved of an wonderful career and for me he's the GOAT now.
If Messi isn't the greatest player of all time, probably competing with Pele, Beckenbauer, Bobby Moore, Maradona, Platini, Cruyff, Zidane, George Best, Ronaldinho, Cristiano Ronaldo et al, he must surely be the best player over an extended period? I think he has played at 5 World Cups! Aged 19, 23, 27, 31 and 35! Also, Messi must surely be the best player so late in his career at age 35.
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Terrific football played by Argentina for the first 65 mins.
They should have won the WC in ordinary time based on how they played i that period fo the game.
* As I've previously said, apart from the current Portugal, and Spain in recent times, most European teams are far too tall on average. Essentially, the ball is played on the deck in football.
Outside a big keeper being useful, a couple of tall CBs, sometimes one sufficing, and a big forward, that is all a team needs for offensive and defensive set pieces where aerial ball contests are common.
The problem is that many European teams with too many overly tall players in the one team, play each other too much, and their lack of nimbleness isn't exposed. Some of these players might be quick over 30 - 40 metres, but in football speed, acceleration and manoeuvrability, from 3 metres to 20 metres is critical - and being able to change direction quickly is paramount.
Argentina were the only team good enough (Brazil usually are too) to exploit too many tall players in one team, through sheer skill. Portugal were quite nimble too.
* In the 2010 WC I closely analysed the Argentina/Mexico match in the knock out phase . In those days Argentina sat back off the ball with a Half Pressing game plan, and often no more than languid Squeezing within the Half Press. The 2022 manifestation of Argentina applied Full Presses and intensive Squeezing for extensive periods in most games. Hence, opposition teams tend to have far less time and space on the ball. The team that won Qatar WC 2022 are so much better off the ball than past Argentinian teams.
* A special mention should be given to Messi here. Most of the other attacking GOATS in football did/have done little defensive work - Cristiano R, Maradona, etc.
I could not get over how much tackling, closing down of space and turnovers that Messi created or did!
This is essential in the German Gegerpressing or counter pressing concept - where a team desperately tries to win the back quickly in the attacking third, as the other team tries to change from their Attacking Transition to Ball Possession.
* Given Argentina appeared to apply more off the ball pressure than France in the final, I was not sure if some of the French first eleven chosen were jaded because of fatigue over the tournament, or whether it was due to the virus sweeping the team? Whatever, quite a few of the French subs ( many who must have been in the team that lost to Tunisia in the group stages) appeared to energise France. They appeared to be fresher and were more lively on the pitch. They contested the ball, particularly second ball duels, much more vigorously.
* It seems as though South American football in general may be in decline in standard relative to the rest of the world. It may conceivably be the case that Brazil and Argentina aren't being challenged much in the South American WCQing campaigns. Notwithstanding, they're constantly the two teams from South America who can lift against higher calibre teams from other continents. In terms of sheer skill, they tend to be the best two teams in the world, apart from the Tiki Taka Spain from 2008-2012. Uruguay tend to be competitive from roughhouse tactics, a rugged physical game and sheer will to win.
* Di Maria, unused in the tournament, I think through injury, displayed what a classy left winger he is. In terms of technical 1v1 dribbling techniques, DM adds a few Brazilian inside and outside step overs to combine with the easier to execute, but less flashy techniques that I've alluded to Messi using - Matthews' Cuts, shoulder feints/body swerves, Standard Inside of the foot cuts and La Croquetas.
Di Maria was very fast in his evasive movements, and displayed superb ball carrying too - like Messi. Di Maria created a nightmare for the French right side of midfield and defence. France hadn't experienced anything like his dazzling skill set prior in the tournament. Of course the French tried to swarm on Messi with players when he has the ball, but Di Maria took them by surprise. He often only had one player marking him to beat. Didn't Di Maria win the first penalty, as well as scoring the second goal in an excellent Argentinian accelerated attack?
* When Argentina moved into their formation in the Ball Possession and Ball Possession phases of play, (spreading the field and making it big in Ball Possession, and condensing space in Ball Possession Opposition), they were quicker to organise in Defensive and Attacking Transitions than France, particularly in the first 65 mins.
* In that first 65 mins, Argentina, really surprisingly to me, displayed technical superiority over France -
more assured first touch in minimal time and space;
faster handling speed;
able to operate more effectively in less time and space, with better close ball control;
more cohesive team work in structured possession and attacking interplay;
and; more proficient pass and move football in tight spaces.
The better team on the night won. Fair play to Argentina! However, credit to France for fighting back when they looked down and out.
What a fantastic game the final was!
It was a triumph for football.
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Schwarzer against Uruguay, 'owned the area 'probably not as many antics, but it has been going on for years. Martinez was just a bit more in your face. I didn't see much wrong with it.
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Hard to argue on the varied selections for team of the WC. Impressed Morroco gets many mentioned and as I posted when they bowed out much kudos to morooco’s coach having only got on board not long before the cup. He read his players very well https://www.espn.com.au/football/fifa-world-cup/story/4834723/world-cup-2022-best-xis-who-makes-our-team-of-the-tournament
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Hahahahahahaha thats one way to "take a yellow" for the team..... legend.
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:w00t::laugh: classic clearance by the GK
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Watch one of the shootouts the keeper brings the ball over and tries the friendly mind games to messi who's having none of it keeps his head down and focussed. Messi's shootout pen v holland was the epitome of ownership
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+x+x+xYep the wiggle did his bit that helped. He did the same protecting his own players from shithousery while doing all the similar time wasting walking away from the goals, dropping the ball away etc That's not to even mention the water bottle notes and the wiggle stuff Would be interested to know who the first keeper was to really step these things up a notch as it feels pretty recent that it's sustained and no just isolated acts of petulance etc There's a clip that I saw once but can never find again no matter how hard I look in an Australia cup match of full penalty shithousery. The player puts the ball down on the spot and goes back to the start of his run up. Then the GK walks out towards the ball, takes a quick 2 or 3 steps and boots it miles. Ref gives him a yellow straight away. Bal is places back on the spot and he misses it or the keeper saves it. (Can't remember which.) Funny as. Was in one of those ladbible, sporstbible compilation clips they have on facebook. aha oh man i need to see that
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+x+xYep the wiggle did his bit that helped. He did the same protecting his own players from shithousery while doing all the similar time wasting walking away from the goals, dropping the ball away etc That's not to even mention the water bottle notes and the wiggle stuff Would be interested to know who the first keeper was to really step these things up a notch as it feels pretty recent that it's sustained and no just isolated acts of petulance etc There's a clip that I saw once but can never find again no matter how hard I look in an Australia cup match of full penalty shithousery. The player puts the ball down on the spot and goes back to the start of his run up. Then the GK walks out towards the ball, takes a quick 2 or 3 steps and boots it miles. Ref gives him a yellow straight away. Ball is places back on the spot and he misses it or the keeper saves it. (Can't remember which.) Funny as. Was in one of those ladbible, sporstbible compilation clips they have on facebook.
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+xYep the wiggle did his bit that helped. He did the same protecting his own players from shithousery while doing all the similar time wasting walking away from the goals, dropping the ball away etc That's not to even mention the water bottle notes and the wiggle stuff Would be interested to know who the first keeper was to really step these things up a notch as it feels pretty recent that it's sustained and no just isolated acts of petulance etc
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and all I see is good mental play by him, there is no law preventing the GK "owning" the area the word used during pens in the tweet. All comes down to GK's different personalities like a player on the pitch, Loris is a passive type, sure being Captain having to be in the coin toss gave Martinez the chance to "stake" the ground so to speak. Lets face it they are up against it more than not - you can see why he's pumped for pens. Yep the wiggle did his bit that helped.
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Nice summary! Very much in redmayne territory
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Great twitter thread here stepping out Martinez's shithousery during the penalties. Quality analysis. https://twitter.com/GeirJordet/status/1604820629206835203
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xGreat game. Can't wait for Decentric's analysis :) I've got you mate... I, as a qualified FFA coach, have examined the ability of the Argentinians to solve football problems using football specific performance criteria, particularly vis-a-vis the main moments involved in the transition from the Ball Possession Opposition phase of play to active Ball Possession. I can see the well honed skills that have developed due to years of practicing tasks involving Perception Decision Execution and solving them using football specific skills that, I might add, are modelled under the FFA Curriculum, for which I am qualified to comment on, being a qualified FFA coach. As such I believe that Argentina were worthy winners as they were rewarded for their proactive rather than reactive football, which was immediately apparent to a qualified coach such as myself. Hahahahaha you're in the milieu? :w00t::laugh: that was a funny as post eh...... yer Barca forgot none of us have mentioned Martinez's save on Kolo's attempt. All the rappings Messi richly deserves Martinez any other game would have got MOTM with the pen save as well. Martinez's save was just unbelievable. Broke millions of French hearts just like he broke ours. From the way he carried on during the tournament and during the award ceremony he comes across as a total flog but geez he's a good keeper. hey what makes you think he's a flog :PThe die hair sides :hehe: talk about backing it up otherwise he'd be a real smuck lol...... Huge diff in skill to Loris thats for sure, makes you wonder why Villa arn't doing better, I'm sure his stocks have gone up and they'll be struggling to keep him through the coming window I'd say. Here's a good one coming up, Ligue1 resumption, oh the vibes Messi/DiMaria in the change rooms with Mbappe lol...... That young Mac Allister 23yrs, he was everywhere most games, Brighton signed him 2019 and loaned him out since, like wtf. Plus don't you think its the stangest Argentinian surname :) De Paul, talk about a bloody streetfighter, on the ground so many times playing the victim game but tireless, kind of bloke you'd have in the trenchs next to you always. There was a Mac Allister that played against us in the 2 legged 1993 playoff. Thinking that might be his son. Can someone confirm? Edit. Yep. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Mac_Allister I believe that there was a significant number of Scottish (and probably English) immigrants to Argentina in the early 20th century, and this is where the MacAllister name comes from. I remember his father Carlos MacAllister playing in the 1993 playoffs, from memory he had snow white skin and red hair, so looked quite Scottish rather than Argentinian. I also remember an Argentine defender from the 1980's with an Anglo name, Jose Luis Brown. He scored in the 1986 WC final. Clubs in those parts named Everton, Arsenal, O' Higgins. Interesting history. And the most famous of all - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boca_Juniors"On 3 April 1905, a group of Greek and Italian boys (more specifically from Genoa) met in order to find a club. The house where the meeting was arranged was Esteban Baglietto's and the other four people who attended were Alfredo Scarpatti, Santiago Sana and brothers Ioannis (Juan) and Theodoros (Teodoro) Farengas from Chios and Konstantinos Karoulias from Samos. [21] Other important founders members include Arturo Penney, Marcelino Vergara, Luis Cerezo, Adolfo Taggio, Giovanelli, Donato Abbatángelo, Bertolini." Amazing how migrant communities are so vibrant and embraced in football globally around the world...... we certainly are "unique" here :(
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xGreat game. Can't wait for Decentric's analysis :) I've got you mate... I, as a qualified FFA coach, have examined the ability of the Argentinians to solve football problems using football specific performance criteria, particularly vis-a-vis the main moments involved in the transition from the Ball Possession Opposition phase of play to active Ball Possession. I can see the well honed skills that have developed due to years of practicing tasks involving Perception Decision Execution and solving them using football specific skills that, I might add, are modelled under the FFA Curriculum, for which I am qualified to comment on, being a qualified FFA coach. As such I believe that Argentina were worthy winners as they were rewarded for their proactive rather than reactive football, which was immediately apparent to a qualified coach such as myself. Hahahahaha you're in the milieu? :w00t::laugh: that was a funny as post eh...... yer Barca forgot none of us have mentioned Martinez's save on Kolo's attempt. All the rappings Messi richly deserves Martinez any other game would have got MOTM with the pen save as well. Martinez's save was just unbelievable. Broke millions of French hearts just like he broke ours. From the way he carried on during the tournament and during the award ceremony he comes across as a total flog but geez he's a good keeper. hey what makes you think he's a flog :PThe die hair sides :hehe: talk about backing it up otherwise he'd be a real smuck lol...... Huge diff in skill to Loris thats for sure, makes you wonder why Villa arn't doing better, I'm sure his stocks have gone up and they'll be struggling to keep him through the coming window I'd say. Here's a good one coming up, Ligue1 resumption, oh the vibes Messi/DiMaria in the change rooms with Mbappe lol...... That young Mac Allister 23yrs, he was everywhere most games, Brighton signed him 2019 and loaned him out since, like wtf. Plus don't you think its the stangest Argentinian surname :) De Paul, talk about a bloody streetfighter, on the ground so many times playing the victim game but tireless, kind of bloke you'd have in the trenchs next to you always. There was a Mac Allister that played against us in the 2 legged 1993 playoff. Thinking that might be his son. Can someone confirm? Edit. Yep. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Mac_Allister I believe that there was a significant number of Scottish (and probably English) immigrants to Argentina in the early 20th century, and this is where the MacAllister name comes from. I remember his father Carlos MacAllister playing in the 1993 playoffs, from memory he had snow white skin and red hair, so looked quite Scottish rather than Argentinian. I also remember an Argentine defender from the 1980's with an Anglo name, Jose Luis Brown. He scored in the 1986 WC final. From that Wikipedia article they're saying Irish. I also remember his dad playing in 93 and thinking what's a red headed Anglo lad doing playing for Argentina. Lots of scots went to places like argentina and venezuela to work in ship yards. Argentina is interesting, you have villages where they speak Welsh, German, Italian etc
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xGreat game. Can't wait for Decentric's analysis :) I've got you mate... I, as a qualified FFA coach, have examined the ability of the Argentinians to solve football problems using football specific performance criteria, particularly vis-a-vis the main moments involved in the transition from the Ball Possession Opposition phase of play to active Ball Possession. I can see the well honed skills that have developed due to years of practicing tasks involving Perception Decision Execution and solving them using football specific skills that, I might add, are modelled under the FFA Curriculum, for which I am qualified to comment on, being a qualified FFA coach. As such I believe that Argentina were worthy winners as they were rewarded for their proactive rather than reactive football, which was immediately apparent to a qualified coach such as myself. Hahahahaha you're in the milieu? :w00t::laugh: that was a funny as post eh...... yer Barca forgot none of us have mentioned Martinez's save on Kolo's attempt. All the rappings Messi richly deserves Martinez any other game would have got MOTM with the pen save as well. Martinez's save was just unbelievable. Broke millions of French hearts just like he broke ours. From the way he carried on during the tournament and during the award ceremony he comes across as a total flog but geez he's a good keeper. hey what makes you think he's a flog :PThe die hair sides :hehe: talk about backing it up otherwise he'd be a real smuck lol...... Huge diff in skill to Loris thats for sure, makes you wonder why Villa arn't doing better, I'm sure his stocks have gone up and they'll be struggling to keep him through the coming window I'd say. Here's a good one coming up, Ligue1 resumption, oh the vibes Messi/DiMaria in the change rooms with Mbappe lol...... That young Mac Allister 23yrs, he was everywhere most games, Brighton signed him 2019 and loaned him out since, like wtf. Plus don't you think its the stangest Argentinian surname :) De Paul, talk about a bloody streetfighter, on the ground so many times playing the victim game but tireless, kind of bloke you'd have in the trenchs next to you always. There was a Mac Allister that played against us in the 2 legged 1993 playoff. Thinking that might be his son. Can someone confirm? Edit. Yep. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Mac_Allister I believe that there was a significant number of Scottish (and probably English) immigrants to Argentina in the early 20th century, and this is where the MacAllister name comes from. I remember his father Carlos MacAllister playing in the 1993 playoffs, from memory he had snow white skin and red hair, so looked quite Scottish rather than Argentinian. I also remember an Argentine defender from the 1980's with an Anglo name, Jose Luis Brown. He scored in the 1986 WC final. Clubs in those parts named Everton, Arsenal, O' Higgins. Interesting history.
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