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I want the first three but would settle for any of them. Curious to see where people are at
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Because they promised that the money would be “reinvested in football”, they would need to be totally transparent about how the money is spent, as in dollar for dollar. It really doesn’t matter how it’s spent, as Iong as we can see it’s being “reinvested in football” then you could probably forgive the indiscretion even though it’s terribly misguided. The irony is, if they just came out and said “we are cash strapped and desperate for funds, we have no choice” I wouldn’t be ok with it, but I would be more inclined to forgive it. It’s the whole smoke and mirrors that pisses people off and insults their intelligence.
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Prefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least
And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all.
Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this.
To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football!
The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved.
Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion.
Enough to enough.
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NSD might bring me back, depending onhow it's implemented.
BTW the GF decision wasn't what did it for me. I was 90% out the door after suburban terrorists. The final thing that finished me off was the unbalanced fixturing. AFLisation confirmed that day.
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+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not saying that some of the old ways should not be implemented, on the contrary but it appears there are many here will never be able understand the administration of a professional league.
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+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not saying that some of the old ways should not be implemented, on the contrary but it appears there are many here will never be able understand the administration of a professional league. Clearly the current administration have no clue at all how a professional league should be administered. They won't get another cent from me. Once all the customers have gone, administering the league will be a cinch.
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+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. You can get a few dozen light years closer though
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the GF decision was doing away with maybe 40 years of tradition... the NSL also mostly awarded the GF to the highest place team....
My guess is APL was short of cash... the board said to DT work out how to raise extra money.... its not even clear it was put to tender more like a phone hook up...
The timing was poor, everything about the process was a clusterfuck...
Just rescind the contract its simple... maybe costly but just do it...
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I'm not sure if this was a factor, but the APL is now one-third owned by a foreign investment firm, and the one thing we know for sure is that they will put their ROI ahead of absolutely everything. From their perspective they would view it as money for jam.
I was holidaying in Phillip Island the past 5 days, and had the misfortune of flicking through the local rag.
So they were running a small story on the APL selling the GF to Sydney, and I guessed it was for about $10 million over three years.
Right next to that story was another story about little Canberra renewing a 10 year deal with the Giants to play a few games t there every season, worth about $25 million.
It was an interesting juxtaposition.
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+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not saying that some of the old ways should not be implemented, on the contrary but it appears there are many here will never be able understand the administration of a professional league. Modern football leagues world over is business as we know with 16club + and P/R comps I'm sure many here understand unlike what you seem to read - thats traditional and business working with the DNA/old ways of the game. Here actually it should be less complicated to manage wouldn't you think with less Clubs and NO P/R - talk about falling over themselves Stage/Chapter 2 since 2004. Seems they can't understand how to run their own sideline small business these owners.
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Unsubscribing from Paramount+ today. They're nothing more than greasy, money grabbing, shit-for-brains fucksticks without a clue as to what makes football what it is. Even worse because the fuckhead in charge is supposed to be a 'football' person and the supposed mesiah of the A - Leauge. Hope the whole lot falls over. Get this NDS up and running and maybe I'll support that.
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Where's MSC lol........gonna go to town with grin ear to ear.
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Muz
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Just dropped this in the comment box of the Paramount+ unsubscribe option. The A-League app was hopeless. Absolutely hopeless. An issue you have had over 12 months to fix but have refused to do anything about it.
I was putting up with the rubbish app because, what's the alternative right, and then they moved all the grand finals to Sydney. I'm out.
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+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not saying that some of the old ways should not be implemented, on the contrary but it appears there are many here will never be able understand the administration of a professional league. Which is why im not bothered anymore, this is not a football league in my eyes. Without football merit incentives, then why should I come back? Ill stick to Euro football and local NPL where their are football incentives where any team has a change to do well regardless of what level they come from and this is what football is about and why its such a popular game all around the world. The grand final was the last and only tradition the sport has even though first past the post is used all over the world, the grand final is at least merit based. Its a shame the same vision isnt seen with the current administrators in Australia, until something changes I will remain disengaged.
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+x+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not saying that some of the old ways should not be implemented, on the contrary but it appears there are many here will never be able understand the administration of a professional league. Which is why im not bothered anymore, this is not a football league in my eyes. Without football merit incentives, then why should I come back? Ill stick to Euro football and local NPL where their are football incentives where any team has a change to do well regardless of what level they come from and this is what football is about and why its such a popular game all around the world. The grand final was the last and only tradition the sport has even though first past the post is used all over the world, the grand final is at least merit based. Its a shame the same vision isnt seen with the current administrators in Australia, until something changes I will remain disengaged. Taking it too far towards the traditionalist end because that's the kulcha, is not the way either. Not in this era. That's why I'm suggesting we look at the best of both worlds with due consideration to finances. There has to be compromises to make it work.
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The only way Clubs get into the NSD if you've read the amount of press about it is agreeing by the contract of all the stipulations you mention, more so finances and running the Club, move on. Nothing ventured nothing gained, surely after all these years incl the train wreck NSL was to now the AL/ALM this 2nd level has enough intel looking back on the so so many wrongs and avoid many of the mistakes of the past. Sure it wont be perfect but they've been tin pots, seen the Pro's screw themselves up, can dumb and dumber be bettered :) fingers crossed not.
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Every time a football tradionalist implies that it can't get any worse, when they get it, it gets worse.
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+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants.
or should we all go out and get the sponsor tattooed across our eyelids?
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+x+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants.
or should we all go out and get the sponsor tattooed across our eyelids? Exactly right. I'd imagine if they wanted to make even more money they could get sponsors painted all over the ground like they do in the NRL or the basketball but they don't. Probably shouldn't give them ideas.
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Sorry, but I don’t accept the “cop the 3 years and back to normal" suggestion. I will just boycott for 3 years. The new CCM owner said it was a lose/lose situation. But I think that’s too simplistic. One situation is a loss that we can recover from. The other situation is a loss that we probably can’t recover from. And they voted for the wrong one.
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Monoethnic Social Club
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+x+x+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not saying that some of the old ways should not be implemented, on the contrary but it appears there are many here will never be able understand the administration of a professional league. Which is why im not bothered anymore, this is not a football league in my eyes. Without football merit incentives, then why should I come back? Ill stick to Euro football and local NPL where their are football incentives where any team has a change to do well regardless of what level they come from and this is what football is about and why its such a popular game all around the world. The grand final was the last and only tradition the sport has even though first past the post is used all over the world, the grand final is at least merit based. Its a shame the same vision isnt seen with the current administrators in Australia, until something changes I will remain disengaged. Taking it too far towards the traditionalist end because that's the kulcha, is not the way either. Not in this era. That's why I'm suggesting we look at the best of both worlds with due consideration to finances. There has to be compromises to make it work. Still spelling "culture" wrong Paulie? hahahahahahah
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+x+x+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants.
or should we all go out and get the sponsor tattooed across our eyelids? Exactly right. I'd imagine if they wanted to make even more money they could get sponsors painted all over the ground like they do in the NRL or the basketball but they don't. Probably shouldn't give them ideas. Guys, I get your anger but these are business...... The sad reality is that according to Australian law, the board of the APL is responsible to its shareholders and so YES "everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants"
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+x+x+x+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants.
or should we all go out and get the sponsor tattooed across our eyelids? Exactly right. I'd imagine if they wanted to make even more money they could get sponsors painted all over the ground like they do in the NRL or the basketball but they don't. Probably shouldn't give them ideas. Guys, I get your anger but these are business...... The sad reality is that according to Australian law, the board of the APL is responsible to its shareholders and so YES "everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants" I understand the realities but the blow back on this decision shows it BAD business. IMO lot more decisions could be made for a financially strong league. It's like the 'Subway' socceroos. This is not necessary. And to me damages long term.
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An overseas foreign investment firm owns one third of the APL and is entitled to cream off one-third of all gross revenues in peretuity. As if they are going to give a damn about anything apart from trying to get all their money back plus some.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants.
or should we all go out and get the sponsor tattooed across our eyelids? Exactly right. I'd imagine if they wanted to make even more money they could get sponsors painted all over the ground like they do in the NRL or the basketball but they don't. Probably shouldn't give them ideas. Guys, I get your anger but these are business...... The sad reality is that according to Australian law, the board of the APL is responsible to its shareholders and so YES "everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants" I understand the realities but the blow back on this decision shows it BAD business. IMO lot more decisions could be made for a financially strong league. It's like the 'Subway' socceroos. This is not necessary. And to me damages long term. Of course, the golden rule in any business is "Know your market" I SHOULD be gloating about this in all fairness but I feel for all of the fans who feel so betrayed by their so called "clubs" The wages of "professional main stream success" are paid in "business only decisions" and if you are not involved in the decision you just have to put up with the outcomes or leave. The fact that these investors (mainly the foreign ones) just want to make a buck out of gullible "soccer consumers" shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.... This is what Lowy dreamed about...... This is what "football but not as you know it" was ALWAYS all about.... In my humble opinion the questions shouldn't be "What can APL do to win you back as a consumer?" it should now be "What can we, as a football loving public, do to make sure the game we all love is NEVER again controlled by people who dont give a fuck about it?" Perfect time to get involved as a voting member with any club in Australia (or even push your NPL franchises to set up as member controlled clubs outside the Aleague at least) . If the whole I don't like effnik people thing is a limitation then join one of the hundreds of non effnik NPL or state league clubs, get a a bunch of mates together and start playing "football manager" in real life... The clubs outside the APL umbrella are loving the new membership boost this has created and with pro/rel on the horizon to NSD planned this could be the circuit breaker need to finally get rid of the "new football v old soccer" divide old Franky created... Finally just "Aussie football"
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants.
or should we all go out and get the sponsor tattooed across our eyelids? Exactly right. I'd imagine if they wanted to make even more money they could get sponsors painted all over the ground like they do in the NRL or the basketball but they don't. Probably shouldn't give them ideas. Guys, I get your anger but these are business...... The sad reality is that according to Australian law, the board of the APL is responsible to its shareholders and so YES "everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants" I understand the realities but the blow back on this decision shows it BAD business. IMO lot more decisions could be made for a financially strong league. It's like the 'Subway' socceroos. This is not necessary. And to me damages long term. Of course, the golden rule in any business is "Know your market" I SHOULD be gloating about this in all fairness but I feel for all of the fans who feel so betrayed by their so called "clubs" The wages of "professional main stream success" are paid in "business only decisions" and if you are not involved in the decision you just have to put up with the outcomes or leave. The fact that these investors (mainly the foreign ones) just want to make a buck out of gullible "soccer consumers" shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.... This is what Lowy dreamed about...... This is what "football but not as you know it" was ALWAYS all about.... In my humble opinion the questions shouldn't be "What can APL do to win you back as a consumer?" it should now be "What can we, as a football loving public, do to make sure the game we all love is NEVER again controlled by people who dont give a fuck about it?" Perfect time to get involved as a voting member with any club in Australia (or even push your NPL franchises to set up as member controlled clubs outside the Aleague at least) . If the whole I don't like effnik people thing is a limitation then join one of the hundreds of non effnik NPL or state league clubs, get a a bunch of mates together and start playing "football manager" in real life... The clubs outside the APL umbrella are loving the new membership boost this has created and with pro/rel on the horizon to NSD planned this could be the circuit breaker need to finally get rid of the "new football v old soccer" divide old Franky created... Finally just "Aussie football" Yes, it's true, the seeds were sown by Lowy - who was given carte blanche by the then Federal Government (plus tens of millions of dollars) to shape Australian football in any way he wanted - he had sole authority - and his very, very first step was to tell the ethnic clubs that they had no future in the new order. But the truth is - if you are talking about clubs that have always put football 1st, 2nd and 3rd, then you are talking about the likes of Hellas, Melbourne Croatia, Marconi, APIA, the various OLympics, etc, etc
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants.
or should we all go out and get the sponsor tattooed across our eyelids? Exactly right. I'd imagine if they wanted to make even more money they could get sponsors painted all over the ground like they do in the NRL or the basketball but they don't. Probably shouldn't give them ideas. Guys, I get your anger but these are business...... The sad reality is that according to Australian law, the board of the APL is responsible to its shareholders and so YES "everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants" I understand the realities but the blow back on this decision shows it BAD business. IMO lot more decisions could be made for a financially strong league. It's like the 'Subway' socceroos. This is not necessary. And to me damages long term. Of course, the golden rule in any business is "Know your market" I SHOULD be gloating about this in all fairness but I feel for all of the fans who feel so betrayed by their so called "clubs" The wages of "professional main stream success" are paid in "business only decisions" and if you are not involved in the decision you just have to put up with the outcomes or leave. The fact that these investors (mainly the foreign ones) just want to make a buck out of gullible "soccer consumers" shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.... This is what Lowy dreamed about...... This is what "football but not as you know it" was ALWAYS all about.... In my humble opinion the questions shouldn't be "What can APL do to win you back as a consumer?" it should now be "What can we, as a football loving public, do to make sure the game we all love is NEVER again controlled by people who dont give a fuck about it?" Perfect time to get involved as a voting member with any club in Australia (or even push your NPL franchises to set up as member controlled clubs outside the Aleague at least) . If the whole I don't like effnik people thing is a limitation then join one of the hundreds of non effnik NPL or state league clubs, get a a bunch of mates together and start playing "football manager" in real life... The clubs outside the APL umbrella are loving the new membership boost this has created and with pro/rel on the horizon to NSD planned this could be the circuit breaker need to finally get rid of the "new football v old soccer" divide old Franky created... Finally just "Aussie football" Yes, it's true, the seeds were sown by Lowy - who was given carte blanche by the then Federal Government (plus tens of millions of dollars) to shape Australian football in any way he wanted - he had sole authority - and his very, very first step was to tell the ethnic clubs that they had no future in the new order. But the truth is - if you are talking about clubs that have always put football 1st, 2nd and 3rd, then you are talking about the likes of Hellas, Melbourne Croatia, Marconi, APIA, the various OLympics, etc, etc Sorry mate, this is simply NOT true as much as I obviously love my club above all others.... Every single football club in Australia, from the amateur leagues to NPL 1 put football first... Frankston Pines FC is no less, no more a football club than South Melbourne FC......
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+x+x+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants.
or should we all go out and get the sponsor tattooed across our eyelids? Exactly right. I'd imagine if they wanted to make even more money they could get sponsors painted all over the ground like they do in the NRL or the basketball but they don't. Probably shouldn't give them ideas. I actually dont care as long as it doesnt affect the integrity of the pitch. Heck put sponsors on top of sponsors for all i care if the a league must be a business thats life and the nsd means all of footballs eggs arent in one basket. Having a high wage league in oz probably needs some hard nosed business decisions the way fans have been engaged with here is terrible business. If you are going to run things like a business run it like a good business
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+x+x+x+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not saying that some of the old ways should not be implemented, on the contrary but it appears there are many here will never be able understand the administration of a professional league. Which is why im not bothered anymore, this is not a football league in my eyes. Without football merit incentives, then why should I come back? Ill stick to Euro football and local NPL where their are football incentives where any team has a change to do well regardless of what level they come from and this is what football is about and why its such a popular game all around the world. The grand final was the last and only tradition the sport has even though first past the post is used all over the world, the grand final is at least merit based. Its a shame the same vision isnt seen with the current administrators in Australia, until something changes I will remain disengaged. Taking it too far towards the traditionalist end because that's the kulcha, is not the way either. Not in this era. That's why I'm suggesting we look at the best of both worlds with due consideration to finances. There has to be compromises to make it work. Still spelling "culture" wrong Paulie? hahahahahahah I have no idea why he ever bothers changing names here. I'm sure you have too but not as often at least aha
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xPrefer they admit they got it wrong only to chase the cash and tell us where the money will be spent at the very least And should also say that sorry to all us fans that have let us down and delete those shallow statements which dont improve our mood at all. Also for Danny Townsend to resign as I dont want him involved in our sport ever again after this. To be honest though, this league which has done almost everything wrong in a football sense since its inception in 2005 with the season length thats not suitable for global football standards to refusing to introduce FA's transfer system along with their preference for a salary cap this league has been about the the most important thing, the football! The only way to make amends is firstly they should restructure the board that should independent of the league the same recommendation that the Crawford report said in 2004 otherwise we keep on making the same mistakes! And secondly they should team up with Football Australia's plans for the NSD and create a blueprint for promotion and relegation and truly unite all football fans across the country regardless of who you support. Otherwise I will remain skeptical of a closed league model and goes against the wishes of open pyramid which it seems only encourages short term thinking and self interest for only the few franchises involved. Football is an inclusive sport that should be open to everyone, the current a-league model or say professional game model goes again this and its time something is done about it in my opinion. Enough to enough. Modern sport is a business and you can't necessarily run it purely based on a football traditionalists way of doing things. Not everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants.
or should we all go out and get the sponsor tattooed across our eyelids? Exactly right. I'd imagine if they wanted to make even more money they could get sponsors painted all over the ground like they do in the NRL or the basketball but they don't. Probably shouldn't give them ideas. Guys, I get your anger but these are business...... The sad reality is that according to Australian law, the board of the APL is responsible to its shareholders and so YES "everything in life need to be sold off to the highest bidder and run according to accountants" I understand the realities but the blow back on this decision shows it BAD business. IMO lot more decisions could be made for a financially strong league. It's like the 'Subway' socceroos. This is not necessary. And to me damages long term. Of course, the golden rule in any business is "Know your market" I SHOULD be gloating about this in all fairness but I feel for all of the fans who feel so betrayed by their so called "clubs" The wages of "professional main stream success" are paid in "business only decisions" and if you are not involved in the decision you just have to put up with the outcomes or leave. The fact that these investors (mainly the foreign ones) just want to make a buck out of gullible "soccer consumers" shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.... This is what Lowy dreamed about...... This is what "football but not as you know it" was ALWAYS all about.... In my humble opinion the questions shouldn't be "What can APL do to win you back as a consumer?" it should now be "What can we, as a football loving public, do to make sure the game we all love is NEVER again controlled by people who dont give a fuck about it?" Perfect time to get involved as a voting member with any club in Australia (or even push your NPL franchises to set up as member controlled clubs outside the Aleague at least) . If the whole I don't like effnik people thing is a limitation then join one of the hundreds of non effnik NPL or state league clubs, get a a bunch of mates together and start playing "football manager" in real life... The clubs outside the APL umbrella are loving the new membership boost this has created and with pro/rel on the horizon to NSD planned this could be the circuit breaker need to finally get rid of the "new football v old soccer" divide old Franky created... Finally just "Aussie football" But the truth is - if you are talking about clubs that have always put football 1st, 2nd and 3rd, then you are talking about the likes of Hellas, Melbourne Croatia, Marconi, APIA, the various OLympics, etc, etc Oh c'mon. All these clubs put their club first not the greater good of the game. This romanticising the past is just as bad as the bagging of it
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