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+xWhat he did was wrong, he should have apologized, received some sort of reprimand, the player and the Spanish FA should made a public statement that the matter was dealt with, is now behind them, and now let's celebrate that we are world champions. But that was never going to be allowed to happen because women's football these days is as much as a political tool as it is a sport. Its too good of an opportunity.This MAN has to be sacked and made an example of. The furore is over the top, especially given that De Vanna's allegations are for more serious and she's been basically air-brushed out. Maybe the big blow up is not only did he not apologise he doubled and then tripled down, they issued a false statement on behalf of Hermonso after trying to rope her family in 3 times and then the federation issued 2 more statements backing him in effect giving the middle finger to anyone who thought things were a bit off. You've even got Europeans that play for Barcelona and Madrid that have issued statements that know the conditions in Spain saying things are crook. So yeah maybe that's what all this is about. If wouldn't be the first time a massive blow up has caused a full rebuild from the ground up. But you just see this as uppity sheilas trying to take down a successful bloke. Weird.
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+x+xWhat he did was wrong, he should have apologized, received some sort of reprimand, the player and the Spanish FA should made a public statement that the matter was dealt with, is now behind them, and now let's celebrate that we are world champions. But that was never going to be allowed to happen because women's football these days is as much as a political tool as it is a sport. Its too good of an opportunity.This MAN has to be sacked and made an example of. The furore is over the top, especially given that De Vanna's allegations are for more serious and she's been basically air-brushed out. Maybe and I don't know, just like you, this was the straw that broke the camels back. As for de Vanna what are you saying? The Spanish FA should be putting out a statement about her? The USWNT? The French? I agree with you about “straw that broke the camel’s back”.
The point about DecVanna is that the media and people like yourself are clearly outraged by “the kiss”,yet seem to be totally uninterested in abuse of minors in our women’s national team?
That’s what’s strange.but maybe it’s only strange to “old blokes” like me. Maybe I just don’t get why kissing a woman is worse than grooming a young girl? But I’m all ears.
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+x+xWhat he did was wrong, he should have apologized, received some sort of reprimand, the player and the Spanish FA should made a public statement that the matter was dealt with, is now behind them, and now let's celebrate that we are world champions. But that was never going to be allowed to happen because women's football these days is as much as a political tool as it is a sport. Its too good of an opportunity.This MAN has to be sacked and made an example of. The furore is over the top, especially given that De Vanna's allegations are for more serious and she's been basically air-brushed out. Maybe the big blow up is not only did he not apologise he doubled and then tripled down, they issued a false statement on behalf of Hermonso after trying to rope her family in 3 times and then the federation issued 2 more statements backing him in effect giving the middle finger to anyone who thought things were a bit off. You've even got Europeans that play for Barcelona and Madrid that have issued statements that know the conditions in Spain saying things are crook. So yeah maybe that's what all this is about. If wouldn't be the first time a massive blow up has caused a full rebuild from the ground up. But you just see this as uppity sheilas trying to take down a successful bloke. Weird. Nah mate what's weird is as Clockwork eloquently put it: why kissing a woman is worse than grooming a young girl? Its even more weird that champions of women's rights like yourself doubted De Vanna actually even made a complaint. I thought you'd be on top of that. Not to mention the media silence The outrage is completely disproportionate to the act and its context.
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Muz
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+x+x+xWhat he did was wrong, he should have apologized, received some sort of reprimand, the player and the Spanish FA should made a public statement that the matter was dealt with, is now behind them, and now let's celebrate that we are world champions. But that was never going to be allowed to happen because women's football these days is as much as a political tool as it is a sport. Its too good of an opportunity.This MAN has to be sacked and made an example of. The furore is over the top, especially given that De Vanna's allegations are for more serious and she's been basically air-brushed out. Maybe and I don't know, just like you, this was the straw that broke the camels back. As for de Vanna what are you saying? The Spanish FA should be putting out a statement about her? The USWNT? The French? I agree with you about “straw that broke the camel’s back”.
The point about DecVanna is that the media and people like yourself are clearly outraged by “the kiss”,yet seem to be totally uninterested in abuse of minors in our women’s national team?
That’s what’s strange.but maybe it’s only strange to “old blokes” like me. Maybe I just don’t get why kissing a woman is worse than grooming a young girl? But I’m all ears. Well to be honest I missed all of that about De Vanna which is why I wrote she tweeted 'lies' and then went missing. I can't see why you can't walk and chew gum at the same time. I read the article Enzo put up and it said 3 counts were referred to the police. What's happening on that front?
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Muz
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+x+x+xWhat he did was wrong, he should have apologized, received some sort of reprimand, the player and the Spanish FA should made a public statement that the matter was dealt with, is now behind them, and now let's celebrate that we are world champions. But that was never going to be allowed to happen because women's football these days is as much as a political tool as it is a sport. Its too good of an opportunity.This MAN has to be sacked and made an example of. The furore is over the top, especially given that De Vanna's allegations are for more serious and she's been basically air-brushed out. Maybe the big blow up is not only did he not apologise he doubled and then tripled down, they issued a false statement on behalf of Hermonso after trying to rope her family in 3 times and then the federation issued 2 more statements backing him in effect giving the middle finger to anyone who thought things were a bit off. You've even got Europeans that play for Barcelona and Madrid that have issued statements that know the conditions in Spain saying things are crook. So yeah maybe that's what all this is about. If wouldn't be the first time a massive blow up has caused a full rebuild from the ground up. But you just see this as uppity sheilas trying to take down a successful bloke. Weird. Nah mate what's weird is as Clockwork eloquently put it: why kissing a woman is worse than grooming a young girl? Its even more weird that champions of women's rights like yourself doubted De Vanna actually even made a complaint. I thought you'd be on top of that. Not to mention the media silence The outrage is completely disproportionate to the act and its context. Clearly grooming is worse but like I said I wasn't across what was happening after Stajcic got sacked. (Excuse my ignorance). Most of what I was interested in was how ridiculous it was that he got booted. I can't 'doubt' de Vanna made a complaint if I didn't know about it so stop trying to put weasel words in my mouth. As for 'kissing' being less of a crime who knows what else was happening behind closed doors. Maybe that's why so many of the players and staff have full-on got the shits. This is a weird argument. Rubiales should get away with an apology and not resign because the Australian media swept Lisa de Vanna's accusations under the carpet!?
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Muz
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As for being 'outraged' by the kiss (and only the kiss) I've linked multiple articles and actions Mr Grub has been involved in as well as the grubby behaviour of their FA and the coaching staff. So it's not about the 'one' thing. So sure, paint me as a hand-wringing, bed-wetter if that's what suits you.
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clockwork orange
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+xAs for being 'outraged' by the kiss (and only the kiss) I've linked multiple articles and actions Mr Grub has been involved in as well as the grubby behaviour of their FA and the coaching staff. So it's not about the 'one' thing. So sure, paint me as a hand-wringing, bed-wetter if that's what suits you. Yes Muz, your detective work since a Spanish man kissed a Spanish woman has been admirable. Yet when alerted to De Vanna’s allegations your response was simply; “Did she though?” No links, no searches? Just like our media, the curiosity and investigation of something to do with the Spanish team seems, shall I say ‘more intense’ than your curiosity about abuse in the a Australian game. That’s kinda my point … but more aimed at the media than you personally. I know you’re a good guy.
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Enzo Bearzot
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+x+x+x+xWhat he did was wrong, he should have apologized, received some sort of reprimand, the player and the Spanish FA should made a public statement that the matter was dealt with, is now behind them, and now let's celebrate that we are world champions. But that was never going to be allowed to happen because women's football these days is as much as a political tool as it is a sport. Its too good of an opportunity.This MAN has to be sacked and made an example of. The furore is over the top, especially given that De Vanna's allegations are for more serious and she's been basically air-brushed out. Maybe and I don't know, just like you, this was the straw that broke the camels back. As for de Vanna what are you saying? The Spanish FA should be putting out a statement about her? The USWNT? The French? I agree with you about “straw that broke the camel’s back”.
The point about DecVanna is that the media and people like yourself are clearly outraged by “the kiss”,yet seem to be totally uninterested in abuse of minors in our women’s national team?
That’s what’s strange.but maybe it’s only strange to “old blokes” like me. Maybe I just don’t get why kissing a woman is worse than grooming a young girl? But I’m all ears. Well to be honest I missed all of that about De Vanna which is why I wrote she tweeted 'lies' and then went missing. I can't see why you can't walk and chew gum at the same time. I read the article Enzo put up and it said 3 counts were referred to the police. What's happening on that front? Can't find anything in the media. Which is kinda the point.
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Muz
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Thanks for posting.
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