Heir to the Throne | Next Socceroos Striker Mega-Analysis


Heir to the Throne | Next Socceroos Striker Mega-Analysis

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Your partnership with Bobby Despotovski became legendary - why did it work so well?
We just complimented each other. We were very different - Bobby was very technical and came short. I played on the shoulders of defenders - we didn't get in the way of each other. We understood where each other would be running. Bobby was a true number 10. He could hit a ball with both feet, and he could turn on a dime. It was a pleasure to play with him.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/simon-hill-chats-to-damian-mori-about-his-career-in-the-nsl-and-a-league-and-his-coaching-ambitions/news-story/43a6fbdf493ba8a1a4f0fb94d23be4ff


a very good interview done sometime ago and points made by him, wonderful history !
Thanks for posting it up.

Talking forwards/strikers, a good coach reads and understands how can he make it work by the type of players he has at his disposal.
You only need to watch what Klopp does during games depending who he started up front and if/when things are not gaining reward - he switch's the front 2 or changes the AM and presto he's changed the rhythem of the game and possession.




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partial update, I think those born 2004 onwards have in new territory that we haven't seen in the a league era. However, none are in the class of aloisi or viduka. Mo Toure's stats are a bit misleading as he has been injured and has started games in ligue 2 this year whereas most a league era strikers are lucky if they start often for a single season abroad, even if they are standouts. I suspect strikers won't improve to the mark viduka level, but more having careers like aziz behich where they are consistent performers in 2nd teir leagues for many years and do a better job than what we have at international level. If we are lucky we might get a late bloomer chris wood style

A Goodwin

November 2004 8 goals at 1162 minutes


Nabout as of Nov 2012 0 goals at 63 minutes

Taggart as of May 2013 3 goals at 1182


T Waddingham

April 2005 11 goals at 1775 minutes


Taggart as of june 2012 1 goal at 298 minutes


L Jovanovic

May 2005 7 goals at 1286 minutes


Taggart as of May 2012 1 goal at 298 minutes


M Caputo

Aug 2005 3 goals at  766 minutes


Taggart as of March 2012 1 goal at 298 minutes


Musa Toure

Nov 2005 1 goal from 202 minutes


Taggart as of Jan 2012 1 goal at 298 minutes


M Glasson

May 2006 0 goals at 173 minutes


R Brownlie

Feb 2007 1 goals after 184 minutes



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To look at, taggert seems to trot around doing his hair. Looks like he's more worried about swanning into a bar after the game. Constantly on his heels and a ludicrous heavy touch...but that's just me and what do I know
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grazorblade - 31 May 2024 12:58 AM
partial update, I think those born 2004 onwards have in new territory that we haven't seen in the a league era. However, none are in the class of aloisi or viduka. Mo Toure's stats are a bit misleading as he has been injured and has started games in ligue 2 this year whereas most a league era strikers are lucky if they start often for a single season abroad, even if they are standouts. I suspect strikers won't improve to the mark viduka level, but more having careers like aziz behich where they are consistent performers in 2nd teir leagues for many years and do a better job than what we have at international level. If we are lucky we might get a late bloomer chris wood style

A Goodwin

November 2004 8 goals at 1162 minutes


Nabout as of Nov 2012 0 goals at 63 minutes

Taggart as of May 2013 3 goals at 1182


T Waddingham

April 2005 11 goals at 1775 minutes


Taggart as of june 2012 1 goal at 298 minutes


L Jovanovic

May 2005 7 goals at 1286 minutes


Taggart as of May 2012 1 goal at 298 minutes


M Caputo

Aug 2005 3 goals at  766 minutes


Taggart as of March 2012 1 goal at 298 minutes


Musa Toure

Nov 2005 1 goal from 202 minutes


Taggart as of Jan 2012 1 goal at 298 minutes


M Glasson

May 2006 0 goals at 173 minutes


R Brownlie

Feb 2007 1 goals after 184 minutes



Fascinating stats !

Thanks for doing them.
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tsf - 31 May 2024 11:04 AM
To look at, taggert seems to trot around doing his hair. Looks like he's more worried about swanning into a bar after the game. Constantly on his heels and a ludicrous heavy touch...but that's just me and what do I know

Like you I used to feel the same about Taggart.He did not move much and always wanted the ball to his feet without getting into good spaces.However this season I watched quite a few PG games and he seemed to be moving across the pitch and dropping back between the lines giving his team mates better passing options.Maybe he watched Jason Cummings in the previous season who was very good at making space for himself.Anyway all credit to him topping the scoring charts considering Glory's poor season.

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Booney - 31 May 2024 1:27 PM
tsf - 31 May 2024 11:04 AM

.However this season I watched quite a few PG games and he seemed to be moving across the pitch and dropping back between the lines giving his team mates better passing options.

good to know!
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tsf - 31 May 2024 11:04 AM
To look at, taggert seems to trot around doing his hair. Looks like he's more worried about swanning into a bar after the game. Constantly on his heels and a ludicrous heavy touch...but that's just me and what do I know

I mean, I think that's harsh but I broadly agree with the vibe. The standards of that generation were so poor that improving out of sight in striker development doesn't gaurantee future big 5 stars, but might take us from players who can manage 1-2 seasons as first choice in a 2nd teir league (championship, swiss, eredivisie, japan, k league etc) to maybe 6-7 seasons. We have a lot of players in this category so we might get lucky and have a chris wood style player who develops late
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grazorblade - 31 May 2024 12:58 AM
partial update, I think those born 2004 onwards have in new territory that we haven't seen in the a league era. However, none are in the class of aloisi or viduka. Mo Toure's stats are a bit misleading as he has been injured and has started games in ligue 2 this year whereas most a league era strikers are lucky if they start often for a single season abroad, even if they are standouts. I suspect strikers won't improve to the mark viduka level, but more having careers like aziz behich where they are consistent performers in 2nd teir leagues for many years and do a better job than what we have at international level. If we are lucky we might get a late bloomer chris wood style

A Goodwin

November 2004 8 goals at 1162 minutes


Nabout as of Nov 2012 0 goals at 63 minutes

Taggart as of May 2013 3 goals at 1182


T Waddingham

April 2005 11 goals at 1775 minutes


Taggart as of june 2012 1 goal at 298 minutes


L Jovanovic

May 2005 7 goals at 1286 minutes


Taggart as of May 2012 1 goal at 298 minutes


M Caputo

Aug 2005 3 goals at  766 minutes


Taggart as of March 2012 1 goal at 298 minutes


Musa Toure

Nov 2005 1 goal from 202 minutes


Taggart as of Jan 2012 1 goal at 298 minutes


M Glasson

May 2006 0 goals at 173 minutes


R Brownlie

Feb 2007 1 goals after 184 minutes



I definitely agree that this crop of strikers is much more promising than what we've had in the past. As an Adelaide fan, we will have both Jovanovic and Goodwin competing for a starting spot, so both should get plenty of minutes and will hopefully really kick on. 

Just need more of these players to become first team regulars in the next season or two which is why I think Musa Toure's impending moce to Europe is far too early.
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sub007 - 31 May 2024 8:25 PM
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I definitely agree that this crop of strikers is much more promising than what we've had in the past. As an Adelaide fan, we will have both Jovanovic and Goodwin competing for a starting spot, so both should get plenty of minutes and will hopefully really kick on. 

Just need more of these players to become first team regulars in the next season or two which is why I think Musa Toure's impending moce to Europe is far too early.

Would love them to both start. Toure, goodwin, jovanovic, waddingham and caputo look like they are all good enough to start for 5-8 seasons in a 2nd teir league and we will have great competition for spots
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grazorblade - 31 May 2024 8:37 PM
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Would love them to both start
. Toure, goodwin, jovanovic, waddingham and caputo look like they are all good enough to start for 5-8 seasons in a 2nd teir league and we will have great competition for spots

We only play one striker up top so it won't happen unfortunately. And FWIW, I think Luka could play in a big 5 league, same as Mohamed Toure. The latter however, needs to get his body right and go on loan to a club that will play him.
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sub007 - 31 May 2024 10:16 PM
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We only play one striker up top so it won't happen unfortunately. And FWIW, I think Luka could play in a big 5 league, same as Mohamed Toure. The latter however, needs to get his body right and go on loan to a club that will play him.

love for you to be right. I think he is an above average eredivisie player which is a massive jump from what we have
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Neanderthal - 18 Nov 2023 2:54 PM
I’ve been obsessed with this topic for over a decade.
In the Golden Generation, we were insanely lucky to have a quick succession of elite strikers like Viduka, Aloisi, Kennedy and Cahill.
As they started retiring we all expected someone else to come along. But it’s been 10-15 years and still nothing close to comparable.

I’ve just been suggesting in another thread that this new generation of players coming through is a cut above the quality of youth we saw in last 10-15 years. However, the clear and obvious weakness is still the #9 Striker position. There’s certainly a lot more potential than we’ve seen since the golden gen. But no one stands out as an obvious superstar.

So, I decided to channel my Australian Striker search obsession into this analysis and see what really are our options + what do the stats tell us?
Note on stats: I don’t beleive in including penalty kicks in goal stats. So all goalscoring stats are excluding PK’s.


1) New generation natural Striker options:
So many young strikers have at least started getting game time. So there’s a lot to consider, but so far no clear stand out favourites.

Kusini Yengi
Age: 24.8
Height: 6'2
Summary: Looked promising in the A-League and has upped it during his short stint for Portsmouth in League One which has earned his first cap for the Socceroos. Physically strong and fast player. Fingers crossed he can maintain this level of productivity and convert it to higher levels of play.
2023-24 | League One: Portsmouth | 136 minutes | 2 Goals | 0 Assists | 1.32 Goals/90 | 1.32 G+A/90
2022-23 | A-League: WSW | 827 minutes | 4 goals | 2 Assists | 0.44 Goals/90 | 0.65 G+A/90
2021-22 | A-Leauge: Adelaide Utd | 386 minutes | 1 Goal | 0 Assists | 0.23 Goals/90 | 0.23 G+A/90
2020-21 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 760 minutes | 4 Goals | 2 Assists | 0.47 Goals/90 | 0.71 G+A/90

John Iredale
Age: 24.3
Height: 6'2
Summary: Been kicking around Europe on our radar for years. Finally made it to a good level at 2. Bundesliga, but yet to score a goal.
2023-24 | 2. Bundesliga: Wehen | 277 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists
2022-23 | 3. Liga: Wehen | 912 minutes | 6 Goals | 1 Assist | 0.59 Goals/90 | 0.69 G+A/90
2021-22 | 3. Liga: Wehen | 390 minutes | 3 Goals | 0 assists | 0.69 Goal/90 | 0.69 G+A/90

Al Hassan Toure
Age: 23.5
Height: 6’1
Summary: Included more for comparison sake with his younger brothers further below.
2023-24 | Turkish 2nd Div | 483 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists
2022-23 | A-League: Macarthur | 1259 minutes | 3 Goals | 5 Assists | 0.21 Goals/90 | 0.57 G+A/90
2021-22 | A-League: Macarthur | 825 minutes | 2 Goals | 2 Assists | 0.22 Goals/90 | 0.44 G+A/90
2020-21 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 555 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists
2019-20 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 633 minutes | 2 Goals | 1 Assist | 0.28 Goals/90 | 0.43 G+A/90

Alou Kuol
Age: 22.3
Height: 6'0
Summary: Promising start to his career but went to Europe early where it didn’t work out for him. Since overshadowed by his younger brother in midfield, but has plenty of time to get himself back on track and compete for National Team selection.
2023-24 | A-League: CCM | 214 minutes | 1 Goal | 0 Assists | 0.42 Goals/90
2022-23 | Bundesliga: Stuttgart | 5 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists
2021-22 | 2. Bundeslinga: Sandhausen | 11 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists
2020-21 | A-League: CCM | 911 minutes | 7 Goals | 2 Assists | 0.69 Goals/90 | 0.89 G+A/90

Noah Botic
Age: 20.8
Height: 6'0
Summary: Currently first choice striker for the Olyroos which means he’s highly rated by Australian management, despite a poor start to this season for both Noah and his team.
2023-24 | A-League: Western Utd | 274 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists
2022-23 | A-League: Western Utd | 879 minutes | 6 Goals | 0 Assists | 0.60 Goals/90 | 0.60 G+A/90
2021-22 | A-Leauge: Western Utd | 23 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists

Mohamed Toure
Age: 19.6
Height: 6’1
Summary: To some people, Mohamed is out most promising future Striking talent. His stats below on the A-League and Ligue 2 speak for themselves. Physical thread and has a knack for goal. But can he get more game time in France, be consistent and step up to a higher level of play?
2023-24 | Ligue 2: Paris FC | 146 minutes | 1 Goal | 1 Assist | 0.62 Goals/90 | 1.23 G+A/90
2022-23 | Ligue 1: Reims | 23 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists
2021-22 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 475 minutes | 3 Goals | 0 Assists | 0.57 Goals/90 | 0.57 G+A/90
2020-21 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 357 minutes | 3 Goals | 1 Assist | 0.76 Goals/90 | 1.01 G+A/90
2019-20 | A-Leauge: Adelaide Utd | 150 minutes | 1 Goal | 0 Assists | 0.60 Goals/90 | 0.60 G+A/90

Archie Goodwin
Age: 19.0
Height: 5’10
Summary: Prolific goalscoring at youth level and seemlessly adapting to Senior level. Already clinical numbers infront of goal. One to watch as he starts to get more minutes.
2023-24 | A-League: Newcastle Jets | 0 minutes
2022-23 | A-League: Newcastle Jets | 144 minutes | 2 Goals | 0 Assists | 1.25 Goals/90 | 1.25 G+A/90
2021-22 | A-League: Newcastle Jets | 175 minutes | 2 Goals | 0 Assists | 1.03 Goals/90 | 1.03 G+A/90
2020-21 | A-League: Newcastle Jets | 298 minutes | 1 Goal | 1 Assist | 0.30 Goals/90 | 0.60 G+A/90

Thomas Waddingham
Age: 18.6
Height: ?
Summary: Brand new senior debutant who's off to a promising start to his career.
2023-24 | A-League: Brisbane Roar | 202 minutes | 1 Goal | 1 Assist | 0.45 Goals/90 | 0.89 G+A/90

Luka Jovanovic
Age: 18.5
Height: 5’9
Summary: Showed he has a knack for goal last season with 3 goals at only 17 years old.
2023-24 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 45 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists
2022-23 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 372 minutes | 3 Goals | 0 Assists | 0.72 Goals/90 | 0.72 G+A/90

Max Caputo
Age: 18.3
Height: 5’10
Summary: Young debutant Striker with a goal to his name in a small number of minutes.
2023-24 | A-League: Melbourne City | 47 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists
2022-23 | A-League: Melbourne City | 12 minutes | 1 Goal | 0 Assists | 7.5 Goals/90 | 7.5 G+A/90 (LOL)

Musa Toure
Age: 18.0
Height: 6’0
Summary: Youngest of the Toure brothers and the most technically gifted of the three. His 1.5 years older brother Mohamed is still ahead, but definitely has potential to overtake him. Some call Musa the most talented brother.
2023-24 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 119 minutes | 1 Goal | 0 Assists | 0.76 Goals/90 | 0.76 G+A/90
2022-23 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 17 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists

Mitchell Glasson
Age: 17.5
Height: 5’11
Summary: Main Striker for the U-17 Joeys and recently debuted in the A-Leauge.
2023-24 | A-League: Sydney FC | 48 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists

Rylan Brownlie
Age: 16.7
Height: 5’10
Summary: Youngest Striker getting minutes in the league so far this season.
2023-24 | A-League: Brisbane Roar | 95 minutes | 0 Goals | 0 Assists


2) Convert a Winger/Attacking mid:
The great thing about this new generation is we seem to have a plethora of talented wingers/attacking mids coming through. Either way I’d expect most our goals to be coming from midfield and the wings.
If we’re lacking a quality target man and have too many talented wingers/attacking mids, then who can do a job in the #9 position?

Marco Tilio
Age 22.3
Height: 5’7
Summary: One player possibly suited to play as false 9 due to his strength, low centre of gravity and productivity around goal. Was dominant in the A-League. Even though he hasn’t got a shot at Celtic yet, I expect he’ll make a name for himself there with time.
2023-24 | SPL: Celtic | 0 minutes
2022-23 | A-League: Melbourne City | 1814 minutes | 9 Goals | 5 Assists | 0.45 Goals/90 | 0.69 G+A/90
2021-22 | A-League: Melbourne City | 1254 minutes | 4 Goals | 4 Assists | 0.29 Goals/90 | 0.57 G+A/90
2020-21 | A-League: Melbourne City | 848 minutes | 1 Goal | 4 Assists | 0.11 Goals/90 | 0.42 G+A/90
2019-20 | A-League: Sydney FC | 12 minutes | 1 Goal | 1 Assist | 7.5 Goals/90 | 15.0 G+A/90 (LOL)

Cristian Volpato
Age: 20.0
Height: 6’2
Summary: Playing at a very high level at his age and hugely hyped. I haven’t seen him play apart from youtube, but I assume from his height and productvitiy stats that he could play at #9 in a pinch. Big cavaet is that he needs to choose to represent us.
2023-24 | Serie A: Sassuolo | 167 minutes | 0 Goals | 1 Assist | 0.0 Goals/90 | 0.54 G+A/90
2022-23 | Serie A: Roma | 399 minutes | 1 Goal | 1 Assist | 0.23 Goals/90 | 0.45 G+A/90
2021-22 | Serie A: Roma | 38 minutes | 1 Goal | 0 Assists | 2.37 Goals/90 | 2.37 G+A/90

Bernardo Oliveira
Age: 19.7
Height: 5’7
Summary: Great numbers infront of goal for a player his age and position (on the wing).
2023-24 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 129 minutes | 2 Goals | 2 Assists | 1.4 Goals/90 | 2.79 G+A/90
2022-23 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 0 minutes
2021-22 | A-League: Adelaide Utd| 984 minutes | 2 Goals | 2 Assists | 0.18 Goals/90 | 0.37 G+A/90

Garang Kuol
Age: 19.2
Height: 5'9
Summary: Prolific in the A-League from a very young age putting him in the conversation. A much less productive start adapting to European leagues, but playing reguarly in the Eredivisue is great to see.
2023-34 | Eredivisie: Voldendam | 547 minutes | 1 Goal | 1 Assist | 0.17 Goals/90 | 0.33 G+A/90
2022-23 | SPL: Hearts | 203 minutes | 1 Goal | 0 Assists | 0.44 Goals/90 | 0.44 G+A/90
2021-22 | A-League: CCM | 153 minutes | 4 Goals | 1 Assist | 2.35 Goals/90 | 2.94 G+A/90
2020-21 | A-League: CCM | 911 minutes | 7 Goals | 2 Assists | 0.69 Goals/90 | 0.89 G+A/90

Nesteroy Irankunda
Age: 17.7
Height: 5'9
Summary: Most hyped youngster currently. Amazing goal scoring rates per 90 at only 16/17 years old in the A-League. Off to a little club named Bayern Munich to continue his development. His level of productivity infront of goal makes him worth mentioning in this conversation.
2023-24 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 234 minutes | 1 Goal | 0 Assists | 0.38 Goals/90 | 0.38 G+A/90
2022-23 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 508 minutes | 5 Goals | 2 Assists | 0.89 Goals/90 | 1.24 G+A/90
2021-22 | A-League: Adelaide Utd | 193 minutes | 3 Goals | 0 Assists | 1.39 Goals/90 | 1.39 G+A/90


3) Hold onto the current older generation options:
Hopefully the 2026 World Cup doesn’t come to this, but there’s been no signs of moving on from these guys just yet.

Mitchell Duke
Age: 32.8
Height: 6’0
Summary: Currently our best option who should lead us into the Asian Cup. Not much of a goal threat, but great at playing target man, holding up the ball, combination play and bringing others into the game.
He’ll be turning 33 during the Asian cup. So if we’re still holding onto him as our best option by the time 2026 World Cup rolls around then we’re in trouble.

Jamie Maclaren
Age: 30.4
Height: 5’10
Summary: Brilliant at exploiting defensive mistakes and converting counter attacks. However, agianst a well structured defence who don’t give him space, he just gets outmuscled everytime. Good for qualification, but not what we should be holding onto if our aim is to get into the knockout stages of the 2026 world cup.

Brandon Borello
Age: 28.3
Height: 5’10
Summary: Not a natural striker, but shown recently he can do a job there. If no better options come along, he’ll be young enough to be at his best and may get better at the role buy 2026.

Jason Cummings
Age: 28.3
Height: 5’10
Summary: Recent Australian convert who’s more of a natrual Striker and will be young enough. One of the most consistent goalscorers last season in the A-League. A shame he's chosen to cash in by playing in a weaker league at the moment.


We had Kewell too who played as a CF for several seasons of his career including his entire time at Galatasaray and Melb Heart, abd several stints of his Socceroos career including the England 2003 match, the Iran 97 game and the entire Asian Cup in 2011. We also had Scotty McDonald too and Sterjovski and Holman who could also play Striker. 
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Just looking at Taggart's career. Did well to get into the 2014 WC squad albeit we had slim pickings and I'm just reading no Kennedy was in Brazil and withdrew to injury. 

It's what follows that maybe stuffed things up. The Fulham move. Zero games then 7 on loan for Dundee United. Was he injured for part of the time? Too many players move to this big name clubs and are just another number. Once he came back he's had a stellar scoring record. If he were Serbian or Brazilian scoring in the K League like that then European clubs are all over him. Given he's definitely more comfortable being the big fish in a small pond, his finishing when presented with chances is among the best of Australian strikers. Frustrating injuries and maybe hitting the post Japan away was the sliding doors moment.

These young players in any position need to play 4-5 full A League seasons then move to a reasonable level overseas. Too many throwing away careers by big club hoarding programs which use bright lights to blind them.
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johnszasz - 1 Jun 2024 7:31 PM
Just looking at Taggart's career. Did well to get into the 2014 WC squad albeit we had slim pickings and I'm just reading no Kennedy was in Brazil and withdrew to injury. 

It's what follows that maybe stuffed things up. The Fulham move. Zero games then 7 on loan for Dundee United. Was he injured for part of the time? Too many players move to this big name clubs and are just another number. Once he came back he's had a stellar scoring record. If he were Serbian or Brazilian scoring in the K League like that then European clubs are all over him. Given he's definitely more comfortable being the big fish in a small pond, his finishing when presented with chances is among the best of Australian strikers. Frustrating injuries and maybe hitting the post Japan away was the sliding doors moment.

These young players in any position need to play 4-5 full A League seasons then move to a reasonable level overseas. Too many throwing away careers by big club hoarding programs which use bright lights to blind them.

We dont have a lot of precendent for what makes a good striker. There is aloisi who left too early to read any lessons into (with modern rules about u18s transferring). Then viduka who was an outrageous ohtlier then little in between. Nit even mark viduka went to the epl straight away. So as u say that first big move needs to be right

Frank farina is probably the best example for this new crop of really good but not viduka level strikers. Left at 24 and went to belgium
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We dont have a lot of precendent for what makes a good striker. There is aloisi who left too early to read any lessons into (with modern rules about u18s transferring). Then viduka who was an outrageous ohtlier then little in between. Nit even mark viduka went to the epl straight away. So as u say that first big move needs to be right

Frank farina is probably the best example for this new crop of really good but not viduka level strikers. Left at 24 and went to belgium

Kennedy is an interesting one who toughed it out and the Dresden move is what finally saw him kick on. After that is was a reasonably good Bundesliga spell and then he was excellent in Japan.
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johnszasz - 1 Jun 2024 8:42 PM
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Kennedy is an interesting one who toughed it out and the Dresden move is what finally saw him kick on. After that is was a reasonably good Bundesliga spell and then he was excellent in Japan.

He left super early, when 18

We dont really have a precedent in the a league era for the strikers we have now, so we have no idea how good they should end up. Taggart had the standout early career (weaker than this crops early careers) but had a pretty low peak, which had me worried that you need to be getting a goal a game at u19 in the a league to have a chance, or leave super early like aloisi or kennedy knowing most players who do go nowhere.

Mind u goals arent everything. Taggart, maclaren and kennedy had little to their game outside of goals,  whereas the new players have more strings in their bow. We also have a bunch of players doing better than taggz, so maybe the law of large numbers works in our favour?
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I'm thinking roughly where the new crop of strikers land in terms of early career promise

Mcdonald had a good season for Motherwell as a u22 in the spl whereas kennedy had to wait till u23 before having a good season. Imo, the new strikers, mo toure in particular, look roughly similar. Just need one of them to exceed expectations
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