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It will be good to follow this process through to its conclusion now. The talking about what and when is hopefully over and from now on it will be about who. I hope we get a good spread of clubs geographically to start off with but not at the expense of getting viable clubs.
I expect lots of rumours and a fair amount of changes in plans and sudden moves to join with other aspirants to put a combined club together. It should be fun.
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+x+x+xPS I don't think many people here will fall off their chairs and turn grey if all that's SHOCKING about it is the ethnic origins of two of the clubs aha If it's two former NSL clubs that would be a massive story though for sure I think its a load of bullhsit to be honest but all sort of shit is being thrown around today.... One thing I know for sure is that ALOT of successful, ex "old soccer" supporters are being contacted frantically about sponosrhsips and deals.... One thing is for sure.. Its time to "put up or shut up" This is the final chance for all these clubs (mine included of course) I hope that this goes ahead. Agreed. This is either the turning point for our sport or, if it doesn't get over the line, a sign that we are doomed to mediocrity for a long time to come. That's the major thing, its all good to talk and ask for applications. But it needs to actually happen or we are doomed. I hope its not just setup to fail.
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Has anybody seen my St George or J.U.S.T. scarves?
Back in fashion maybe?
The ONLY thing that I don't like about this is the demand for full pro from day one. The PFA have a strong hand in much of what I dislike about the A League and its current path. I simply don't trust them.
Happy day anyway.
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McKinna and O'Donovan's Sydney Olympic maate!!
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I guess the FA lost out in the "champions' league model" that they wanted to push.
All in all though the points make sense apart from the first one (imo the idea of P/R with the A-L is long gone)
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Generally excited for mono and lfc other guys that love the sport but can't get into the a league. See you at aami park lads
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+x+xI'm inviting roosty to the Cro derbies Sydney and Melb - paulie roosty's +1 in the active either end so its balanced hahaha Mono beers on me for the greek italian Sydney games your shout in afl territory thankfully @ Lakeside lakeside lakeside :) Touch wood we're GO '24 onwardsThunderbirds ! Mono, I have very active business colleague down there involved with ol Preston, yer I know forget about that but do you think they have the resource throwing their hat in the ring ? Just wondering, I could ask him but whilst I'm here. Perhaps Mono will give you some tips in how to machine gun down Aussies? Anyway, the announcement is good news, but calm down before you have a cardiac arrest. awww now why you always need to one up someone...meh shame. You wouldn't know my state of fitness then again can happen to anyone. Here's some sauce, mind you we've seen your quick to look up Greek game supporter stats for all, keep up mate KEEPUP. https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/02/03/fa-takes-big-step-towards-promotion-relegation-for-a-league-with-commitment-to-national-second-tier/even more bbq one https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news/football-australia-opens-expressions-interest-national-second-tier-mens-competition
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+xI'm inviting roosty to the Cro derbies Sydney and Melb - paulie roosty's +1 in the active either end so its balanced hahaha Mono beers on me for the greek italian Sydney games your shout in afl territory thankfully @ Lakeside lakeside lakeside :) Touch wood we're GO '24 onwardsThunderbirds ! Mono, I have very active business colleague down there involved with ol Preston, yer I know forget about that but do you think they have the resource throwing their hat in the ring ? Just wondering, I could ask him but whilst I'm here. Perhaps Mono will give you some tips in how to machine gun down Aussies? Anyway, the announcement is good news, but calm down before you have a cardiac arrest.
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Where's the source of this announcement?
If true, best thing that attracted my attention is that the clubs need to go pro. Will create a good and proper stepping stone to the AL and improve the standard for players striving for top flight. Can only be good.
The criteria may be tough, hence the rumours of mergers. This will be a challenge however......"high-quality match day facility 12 months of the year".
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Way back hhhmmmm actually not that far back there was talk of a 3 way merger between, Sydney United, Marconi and wait for it White Eagles... playing out of Fairfield Showground in a new stadium with 5K uncover seats funded by Fairfield council with stadium capable of being up sized easily ...
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I'm inviting roosty to the Cro derbies Sydney and Melb - paulie roosty's +1 in the active either end so its balanced hahaha Mono beers on me for the greek italian Sydney games your shout in afl territory thankfully @ Lakeside lakeside lakeside :) Touch wood we're GO '24 onwardsThunderbirds ! Mono, I have very active business colleague down there involved with ol Preston, yer I know forget about that but do you think they have the resource throwing their hat in the ring ? Just wondering, I could ask him but whilst I'm here.
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+x+x+x• A new national tier of football between the A-League Men competition and the National Premier Leagues, with the opportunity for promotion and relegation to be considered once mature • A home and away league structure with finals, comprised of between 10 and 16 teams and featuring between 24 to 36 games • Successful Respondents to the Application Process would be required to depart their existing football competitions for the National Second Tier • National Second Tier Clubs will enter into a Club Participation Agreement setting out the terms of participation, including but not limited to the following requirements: • professional playing contracts for all players, with salaries paid 52 weeks of the year; • ‘off field’ operations run by employed staff throughout 12 months of the year; • investment in and operation of a full talent development pathway within their club structure; and • access to a suitable high-quality match day facility 12 months of the year. • access to a suitable high-quality match day facility 12 months of the year. - this is the only thing I am wondering about..... Why? Is it to stop clubs applying who just have access during soccer season? Does MV and Melb City have access to AAMI park for 12 months a year??? Strange? MV/MC don't have exclusive access, but they do have long term agreements in place. This is probably to account for the Australia Cup as well as the ACL (in the event we get more spots and there is a pathway for a NSD club to secure a spot). The other reason for this criteria is probably the direct result of Western United. The FA don't want to be in that position again. That being said, I don't think this will be a problem for any of the NPL clubs that end up being shortlisted. Ah makes sense thanks..... Speaking of Australia Cup... things are about to get interesting over the next couple of years I think.
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+x+x• A new national tier of football between the A-League Men competition and the National Premier Leagues, with the opportunity for promotion and relegation to be considered once mature • A home and away league structure with finals, comprised of between 10 and 16 teams and featuring between 24 to 36 games • Successful Respondents to the Application Process would be required to depart their existing football competitions for the National Second Tier • National Second Tier Clubs will enter into a Club Participation Agreement setting out the terms of participation, including but not limited to the following requirements: • professional playing contracts for all players, with salaries paid 52 weeks of the year; • ‘off field’ operations run by employed staff throughout 12 months of the year; • investment in and operation of a full talent development pathway within their club structure; and • access to a suitable high-quality match day facility 12 months of the year. • access to a suitable high-quality match day facility 12 months of the year. - this is the only thing I am wondering about..... Why? Is it to stop clubs applying who just have access during soccer season? Does MV and Melb City have access to AAMI park for 12 months a year??? Strange? MV/MC don't have exclusive access, but they do have long term agreements in place. This is probably to account for the Australia Cup as well as the ACL (in the event we get more spots and there is a pathway for a NSD club to secure a spot). The other reason for this criteria is probably the direct result of Western United. The FA don't want to be in that position again. That being said, I don't think this will be a problem for any of the NPL clubs that end up being shortlisted.
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+x+x+xPS I don't think many people here will fall off their chairs and turn grey if all that's SHOCKING about it is the ethnic origins of two of the clubs aha If it's two former NSL clubs that would be a massive story though for sure I think its a load of bullhsit to be honest but all sort of shit is being thrown around today.... One thing I know for sure is that ALOT of successful, ex "old soccer" supporters are being contacted frantically about sponosrhsips and deals.... One thing is for sure.. Its time to "put up or shut up" This is the final chance for all these clubs (mine included of course) I hope that this goes ahead. Agreed. This is either the turning point for our sport or, if it doesn't get over the line, a sign that we are doomed to mediocrity for a long time to come. As long as the very next announcement isn't "all grand finals to be played in Sydney" we should be good :) hahahahahahahaha
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+x+xPS I don't think many people here will fall off their chairs and turn grey if all that's SHOCKING about it is the ethnic origins of two of the clubs aha If it's two former NSL clubs that would be a massive story though for sure I think its a load of bullhsit to be honest but all sort of shit is being thrown around today.... One thing I know for sure is that ALOT of successful, ex "old soccer" supporters are being contacted frantically about sponosrhsips and deals.... One thing is for sure.. Its time to "put up or shut up" This is the final chance for all these clubs (mine included of course) I hope that this goes ahead. Agreed. This is either the turning point for our sport or, if it doesn't get over the line, a sign that we are doomed to mediocrity for a long time to come.
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+x• A new national tier of football between the A-League Men competition and the National Premier Leagues, with the opportunity for promotion and relegation to be considered once mature • A home and away league structure with finals, comprised of between 10 and 16 teams and featuring between 24 to 36 games • Successful Respondents to the Application Process would be required to depart their existing football competitions for the National Second Tier • National Second Tier Clubs will enter into a Club Participation Agreement setting out the terms of participation, including but not limited to the following requirements: • professional playing contracts for all players, with salaries paid 52 weeks of the year; • ‘off field’ operations run by employed staff throughout 12 months of the year; • investment in and operation of a full talent development pathway within their club structure; and • access to a suitable high-quality match day facility 12 months of the year. • Successful Respondents to the Application Process would be required to depart their existing football competitions for the National Second Tier - makes sense• professional playing contracts for all players, with salaries paid 52 weeks of the year; - good• ‘off field’ operations run by employed staff throughout 12 months of the year; - cant see this being a problem• investment in and operation of a full talent development pathway within their club structure; and - yes, yes and yes.• access to a suitable high-quality match day facility 12 months of the year. - this is the only thing I am wondering about..... Why? Is it to stop clubs applying who just have access during soccer season? Does MV and Melb City have access to AAMI park for 12 months a year??? Strange?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAnyway, let the speculation begin (again). The FA have indicated they want a min of 10 clubs and a max of 16. Which clubs does everyone think will actually be able to meet the criteria. The following are the clubs that signed the AAFC report last year. We can assume the majority of the submissions will come from this group, but feel free to speculate any club not on this list: ACT- Canberra Croatia
- Gungahlin United
NSW- APIA Leichhardt
- Marconi Stallions
- Rockdale Ilinden
- Sydney Olympic
- Sydney United 58
- Wollongong Wolves
- Edgeworth FC
QLD- Peninsula Power
- Sunshine Coast
- Wynnum Wolves
SA- Adelaide City
- Campbelltown City
- North Eastern MetroStars
- West Torrens Birkalla
TASVIC- Altona Magic
- Avondale FC
- Bentleigh Greens
- Bulleen Lions
- Caroline Springs George Cross
- Heidelberg United
- Hume City
- Melbourne Knights
- Oakleigh Cannons
- Preston Lions
- South Melbourne
WA I said this on other NSD thread that will the a-league reserves sides would throw their hat in the ring too? Also will we see some mergers too? There won't be any A-Leagues sides, this was dismissed a while ago. It is also a condition of entry into the NSD. "Successful Respondents to the Application Process would be required to depart their existing football competitions for the National Second Tier"This would apply both up and down. As for mergers, it's definitely a possibility. Not sure how popular it would be though. I have heard a very very tasty rumour........ If true will truly shock the shit out of everyone here...... I heard it was South Melbourne and Melbourne Knights. Is this what you mean? How did you guess? Remember that mate's uncle's brother's sister in law who married her son's friend in a scandal 3 years ago but has been forgiven and released on weekends who went to school with one of the club's receptionist who has a thing for one of the players but is also a guy I was telling you about? From him George??? No he is a known shit-talker dude... I wonder how all the "usual suspects" are taking today's news btw? Its a little quiet......
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+xPS I don't think many people here will fall off their chairs and turn grey if all that's SHOCKING about it is the ethnic origins of two of the clubs aha If it's two former NSL clubs that would be a massive story though for sure I think its a load of bullhsit to be honest but all sort of shit is being thrown around today.... One thing I know for sure is that ALOT of successful, ex "old soccer" supporters are being contacted frantically about sponosrhsips and deals.... One thing is for sure.. Its time to "put up or shut up" This is the final chance for all these clubs (mine included of course) I hope that this goes ahead.
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PS I don't think many people here will fall off their chairs and turn grey if all that's SHOCKING about it is the ethnic origins of two of the clubs aha
If it's two former NSL clubs that would be a massive story though for sure
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAnyway, let the speculation begin (again). The FA have indicated they want a min of 10 clubs and a max of 16. Which clubs does everyone think will actually be able to meet the criteria. The following are the clubs that signed the AAFC report last year. We can assume the majority of the submissions will come from this group, but feel free to speculate any club not on this list: ACT- Canberra Croatia
- Gungahlin United
NSW- APIA Leichhardt
- Marconi Stallions
- Rockdale Ilinden
- Sydney Olympic
- Sydney United 58
- Wollongong Wolves
- Edgeworth FC
QLD- Peninsula Power
- Sunshine Coast
- Wynnum Wolves
SA- Adelaide City
- Campbelltown City
- North Eastern MetroStars
- West Torrens Birkalla
TASVIC- Altona Magic
- Avondale FC
- Bentleigh Greens
- Bulleen Lions
- Caroline Springs George Cross
- Heidelberg United
- Hume City
- Melbourne Knights
- Oakleigh Cannons
- Preston Lions
- South Melbourne
WA I said this on other NSD thread that will the a-league reserves sides would throw their hat in the ring too? Also will we see some mergers too? There won't be any A-Leagues sides, this was dismissed a while ago. It is also a condition of entry into the NSD. "Successful Respondents to the Application Process would be required to depart their existing football competitions for the National Second Tier"This would apply both up and down. As for mergers, it's definitely a possibility. Not sure how popular it would be though. I have heard a very very tasty rumour........ If true will truly shock the shit out of everyone here...... I heard it was South Melbourne and Melbourne Knights. Is this what you mean? How did you guess? Remember that mate's uncle's brother's sister in law who married her son's friend in a scandal 3 years ago but has been forgiven and released on weekends who went to school with one of the club's receptionist who has a thing for one of the players but is also a guy I was telling you about? From him
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+x+x+x+x+xAnyway, let the speculation begin (again). The FA have indicated they want a min of 10 clubs and a max of 16. Which clubs does everyone think will actually be able to meet the criteria. The following are the clubs that signed the AAFC report last year. We can assume the majority of the submissions will come from this group, but feel free to speculate any club not on this list: ACT- Canberra Croatia
- Gungahlin United
NSW- APIA Leichhardt
- Marconi Stallions
- Rockdale Ilinden
- Sydney Olympic
- Sydney United 58
- Wollongong Wolves
- Edgeworth FC
QLD- Peninsula Power
- Sunshine Coast
- Wynnum Wolves
SA- Adelaide City
- Campbelltown City
- North Eastern MetroStars
- West Torrens Birkalla
TASVIC- Altona Magic
- Avondale FC
- Bentleigh Greens
- Bulleen Lions
- Caroline Springs George Cross
- Heidelberg United
- Hume City
- Melbourne Knights
- Oakleigh Cannons
- Preston Lions
- South Melbourne
WA I said this on other NSD thread that will the a-league reserves sides would throw their hat in the ring too? Also will we see some mergers too? There won't be any A-Leagues sides, this was dismissed a while ago. It is also a condition of entry into the NSD. "Successful Respondents to the Application Process would be required to depart their existing football competitions for the National Second Tier"This would apply both up and down. As for mergers, it's definitely a possibility. Not sure how popular it would be though. I have heard a very very tasty rumour........ If true will truly shock the shit out of everyone here...... I heard it was South Melbourne and Melbourne Knights. Is this what you mean? How did you guess?
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+x+x Possible broadcaster???? Hope not :( I'd say it's probably more than a possibility, it's actually likely. The FA already have the national stuff and the Australia cup with 10/Paramount. They would definitely be trying to sell the NSD to them too. This would be great and surely having it all in one place is for the best. I'm no Paramount defender but we all wanted a home of football for years so I'm desperately hoping 10/Paramount stick it out and improve.
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+x+x+x+xAnyway, let the speculation begin (again). The FA have indicated they want a min of 10 clubs and a max of 16. Which clubs does everyone think will actually be able to meet the criteria. The following are the clubs that signed the AAFC report last year. We can assume the majority of the submissions will come from this group, but feel free to speculate any club not on this list: ACT- Canberra Croatia
- Gungahlin United
NSW- APIA Leichhardt
- Marconi Stallions
- Rockdale Ilinden
- Sydney Olympic
- Sydney United 58
- Wollongong Wolves
- Edgeworth FC
QLD- Peninsula Power
- Sunshine Coast
- Wynnum Wolves
SA- Adelaide City
- Campbelltown City
- North Eastern MetroStars
- West Torrens Birkalla
TASVIC- Altona Magic
- Avondale FC
- Bentleigh Greens
- Bulleen Lions
- Caroline Springs George Cross
- Heidelberg United
- Hume City
- Melbourne Knights
- Oakleigh Cannons
- Preston Lions
- South Melbourne
WA I said this on other NSD thread that will the a-league reserves sides would throw their hat in the ring too? Also will we see some mergers too? There won't be any A-Leagues sides, this was dismissed a while ago. It is also a condition of entry into the NSD. "Successful Respondents to the Application Process would be required to depart their existing football competitions for the National Second Tier"This would apply both up and down. As for mergers, it's definitely a possibility. Not sure how popular it would be though. I have heard a very very tasty rumour........ If true will truly shock the shit out of everyone here...... I heard it was South Melbourne and Melbourne Knights. Is this what you mean?
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+xPossible broadcaster???? Hope not :( I'd say it's probably more than a possibility, it's actually likely. The FA already have the national stuff and the Australia cup with 10/Paramount. They would definitely be trying to sell the NSD to them too.
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Possible broadcaster???? Hope not :(
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+x+x+x+x+xAnyway, let the speculation begin (again). The FA have indicated they want a min of 10 clubs and a max of 16. Which clubs does everyone think will actually be able to meet the criteria. The following are the clubs that signed the AAFC report last year. We can assume the majority of the submissions will come from this group, but feel free to speculate any club not on this list: ACT- Canberra Croatia
- Gungahlin United
NSW- APIA Leichhardt
- Marconi Stallions
- Rockdale Ilinden
- Sydney Olympic
- Sydney United 58
- Wollongong Wolves
- Edgeworth FC
QLD- Peninsula Power
- Sunshine Coast
- Wynnum Wolves
SA- Adelaide City
- Campbelltown City
- North Eastern MetroStars
- West Torrens Birkalla
TASVIC- Altona Magic
- Avondale FC
- Bentleigh Greens
- Bulleen Lions
- Caroline Springs George Cross
- Heidelberg United
- Hume City
- Melbourne Knights
- Oakleigh Cannons
- Preston Lions
- South Melbourne
WA I said this on other NSD thread that will the a-league reserves sides would throw their hat in the ring too? Also will we see some mergers too? There won't be any A-Leagues sides, this was dismissed a while ago. It is also a condition of entry into the NSD. "Successful Respondents to the Application Process would be required to depart their existing football competitions for the National Second Tier"This would apply both up and down. As for mergers, it's definitely a possibility. Not sure how popular it would be though. I have heard a very very tasty rumour........ If true will truly shock the shit out of everyone here...... I'm curious? Put it this way, two clubs of opposing "ethnicities" may be joining forces.... hahahahah no more hints :) And no its not Hellas either.....
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+x+x+x+x+xAnyway, let the speculation begin (again). The FA have indicated they want a min of 10 clubs and a max of 16. Which clubs does everyone think will actually be able to meet the criteria. The following are the clubs that signed the AAFC report last year. We can assume the majority of the submissions will come from this group, but feel free to speculate any club not on this list: ACT- Canberra Croatia
- Gungahlin United
NSW- APIA Leichhardt
- Marconi Stallions
- Rockdale Ilinden
- Sydney Olympic
- Sydney United 58
- Wollongong Wolves
- Edgeworth FC
QLD- Peninsula Power
- Sunshine Coast
- Wynnum Wolves
SA- Adelaide City
- Campbelltown City
- North Eastern MetroStars
- West Torrens Birkalla
TASVIC- Altona Magic
- Avondale FC
- Bentleigh Greens
- Bulleen Lions
- Caroline Springs George Cross
- Heidelberg United
- Hume City
- Melbourne Knights
- Oakleigh Cannons
- Preston Lions
- South Melbourne
WA I said this on other NSD thread that will the a-league reserves sides would throw their hat in the ring too? Also will we see some mergers too? There won't be any A-Leagues sides, this was dismissed a while ago. It is also a condition of entry into the NSD. "Successful Respondents to the Application Process would be required to depart their existing football competitions for the National Second Tier"This would apply both up and down. As for mergers, it's definitely a possibility. Not sure how popular it would be though. Ok thanks for clarifying that, I remember something from Danny Townsend saying that he will wait to see what the NSD would look like or something like that before making a decision with regarding to the Y-League. As for mergers I agree it might become a possiblity depending on how many clubs have the resources to go alone. having it full professional from the get go and forbidding reserve squads guarantees p and r to happen pretty quickly whether the fa intends this or not I agree... that was my initial thought too.
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Away days in Wollongong, Apia, Marconi, Syd Croatia, Adelaide Juve, Brisbane .... in just over 12 months???? Holy shit have a died and gone to Heaven?
Before the "dissecting" begins can I just say that a huge congratulations should go out for all of us that patiently preyed for this to Nick Galatas and the other club presidents and visionaries in the AAFC who pushed the cause. Volunteered their own time and money and presented the new FA with the data and modelling they could no longer ignore.... Also to JJ and the new, improved FA who had the determination to see this through....... A huge THANK YOU and CONGRATULATIONS to all involved.... It is going to be such a momentous occasion when, almost 20 years to the day, WE can finally have a national football comp again.
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+x+x+x+xAnyway, let the speculation begin (again). The FA have indicated they want a min of 10 clubs and a max of 16. Which clubs does everyone think will actually be able to meet the criteria. The following are the clubs that signed the AAFC report last year. We can assume the majority of the submissions will come from this group, but feel free to speculate any club not on this list: ACT- Canberra Croatia
- Gungahlin United
NSW- APIA Leichhardt
- Marconi Stallions
- Rockdale Ilinden
- Sydney Olympic
- Sydney United 58
- Wollongong Wolves
- Edgeworth FC
QLD- Peninsula Power
- Sunshine Coast
- Wynnum Wolves
SA- Adelaide City
- Campbelltown City
- North Eastern MetroStars
- West Torrens Birkalla
TASVIC- Altona Magic
- Avondale FC
- Bentleigh Greens
- Bulleen Lions
- Caroline Springs George Cross
- Heidelberg United
- Hume City
- Melbourne Knights
- Oakleigh Cannons
- Preston Lions
- South Melbourne
WA I said this on other NSD thread that will the a-league reserves sides would throw their hat in the ring too? Also will we see some mergers too? There won't be any A-Leagues sides, this was dismissed a while ago. It is also a condition of entry into the NSD. "Successful Respondents to the Application Process would be required to depart their existing football competitions for the National Second Tier"This would apply both up and down. As for mergers, it's definitely a possibility. Not sure how popular it would be though. Ok thanks for clarifying that, I remember something from Danny Townsend saying that he will wait to see what the NSD would look like or something like that before making a decision with regarding to the Y-League. As for mergers I agree it might become a possiblity depending on how many clubs have the resources to go alone. having it full professional from the get go and forbidding reserve squads guarantees p and r to happen pretty quickly whether the fa intends this or not
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I would say a quarter of the clubs mentioned here would actually be able to meet the requirements outlined by the FFA
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