Meh. He's a coaches player. He does most of his work off the ball than on the ball anyway.

Quick, someone start an argument that has been done a hundred times before on this forum.

I don't think Carle realises just how much work he actually has to do here to be in contention.

As usual a bunch of people who claim to be football supporters feel they need to bag out those who like other codes. Regardless of your view of holman/carle, shut the hell up when it comes to bagging out people who like football and something else.

I LOVE football and so want to see as many people watching it in Australia as possible. Bagging out socceroossupporter does no good for the game, and is very ANTI-football. You think you are going to convert AFL or NRL supporters by calling them all idiots who can't appreciate skill? That is the most moronic thing I have ever heard. Let football speak for itself, lets positively encourage non-fans into liking football, or else get lost.

Tbh, I love the way football fans don't hesitate to pay out AFL, but when AFL does something to play down football they're up in arms about it. Glass houses boys and girls.

It's amusing all the same.

Kamaryn please show the "bunch of people" that have bagged out other codes in this thread. I can only think of one user that has pointed out that Socceroossupporter is an ARL supporter. I haven't said anything about the other codes.

afromanGT I agree I don't think Carle really has any chance of getting into the 23.

This vid has been in my sig for quite a while.

I'm with socceroossupporter (not about carle). PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO WATCH MORE THAN ONE SPORT. I personally like all sport and can watch any sport thats on tv and enjoy it. Aussie Rules is not a bad sport, just because someone watches it doesn't mean their opinion is moot. Get over yourselves people.

Interesting observation both football and AFL have simalarilties in that movement off the ball, body shape when approaching, holding and distributing are important to fluid play. To think that unless you are committed from birth to only one code of sport gives you less understanding or insight to another sport is a very closed minded view, just remember DR1964 no one owns football it is the world game.
I think Nick should be there, I believe he is capable of pulling off something special given the chance.

I like both Holman and Carle and they both bring something different to the team. Holman brings running and work-rate and harassing play, sometimes getting balls others wouldn't get near, and he also draws opposition players off the ball and gives more room for his team-mates. Carle brings technical excellence, trickery, neat passing and is bloody fun to watch. The value of each is different depending on the opposition, weather, location but most of all tactics and formation. And herein lies the answer to who will get the nod, or whether there is room for both in the 23. The way Pim usually lays a team out favours Holman, but if we need a win in the third group match and Pim was willing to gamble on a 4-4-2 then Carle might get the nod in that match (and interestingly that would bring McDonald into the line-up also). But I don't think there's room for both, otherwise one less 'wide' midfielder will be in the 23, such as Vidosic or Garcia, and we need a couple of other wide players to back up Bres and Emo.

Pity we can't clone both Holman and Carle into one person. Maybe that's what our kids will be playing like by 2022, a mixture of high technique and unmatched industry. Here's hopin!

True, so now go and preach equality on an AFL site (do they have them?) and see how you go.

Riv I'm not particularly interested in what the AFL communtity do I just don't see why we (here on FFT) should shit on each so much.

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I'm a Nick Carle fan, but I just wondered why there are articles on Nick Carle, saying he's going to give it his all etc. etc., when it can be assumed this applies to all the fringe players who are fighting for spots on the team. Why does 442 and TWG run stories only on Carle? Just curious.

Carle will make the squad. The only problem is he has a national manager who does not know his real worth. Under another manager (Guus Hiddink) the best would've been brought out of him lonk ago.