Is there time to turn it all around and build momentum...or are we building nicely?

This world cup is going to turn into an embarrassment for the FFA, Pim is setting back australian football 10 years.

Not likely

Whoops. I accidentally voted "yep".

Despite the poor performances I have generally been supportive of Pim, after all he has delivered results, but the omission of MacDonald and last nights poor display is the end of the line for me.

I was wondering who did that:shock:

I'm sticking with my analysis of Pim as a guy who picks a number on the roulette wheel and won't change until it comes up or he goes broke.

If he gets lucky, he's a genius. And this period of Australian football will be seen as a continuation of the Golden Age begun when we qualified for 2006.

If not, he'll soon be forgotten, and this period will be seen as a time when we squandered the talent of that 2006 team without nurturing any new stars.

FWIW I hope he wins, but it's a bloody tough group. Focussing on defence is not such a bad idea under the circumstances, however much we might hate watching it over and over.

In the end, however, only results matter. That's a coach's life.

Pim will entertain us all

Bloody mancs, can't get anything right :lol:

To be fair Beauchamp looks to be a good call up...he might be the man to pair up with Neill in the centre of defence.

Nope, he lost me after one of the many, many, many rubbish performances against the Asian minnows.

We've been comprehensively outplayed by some really poor sides, against good ones we're stuffed.

Not a chance.

However, nothings going to change, and he is our coach - for better or worse!

Fortunately, not for much longer, imno.

Bang on the money with this.

Sorry but I think some people are over-reacting. If we fail in the group stage, even if you disagree with Pim does anyone really think a different line-up/formation would have got us through?

That said, it'll be good to see how a new coach goes after Pim is gone.

Yes, I firmly believe that we have the players with the ability to play suitable football to get us through the group if we had the right tactics. Macca playing WITH Kennedy up front and Cahill in behind is the way to go. But Pim doesn't know how to play attacking football.

My sentiments exactly, if Schwarzer had not produced M.O.M performances continually during the qualifiers then we may not have even qualified. We've been wallpapering over the cracks for too long and I can see us falling in a big heap once the tournament begins.
Pim's stubborness both tactically and selection-wise will be our downfall, the system does not suit the players at his disposal yet he continues to stick with it. And no man in his right mind would select Craig Moore over Sash Ognenovski. An injury to Neill or Kennedy and we may as well start packing, I had so much optimism for the last WC....this time it's fear.

Negative. F*cking. C*nts.

You don't deserve a national football team.

We're worried and concerned about the state of our National Team. Nobody is saying they want us to get thumped, but we are expressing our concern that this may be the case.

You have to admit, it's not the most promising situation we are in.

+1 our squad looks so vulnerable, and as you say, Pim keeps selecting players in positions even though his system clearly isn't working. Selecting players that don't fit and using a system to execute a tactic that he simply doesn't have the players for. It's shooting us in the foot. I hav eno heistation in saying I'd rather have Farina back. And I thought I'd NEVER say that.

We deserve a national team coach who can get the side playing to the immense ability of its very tallented players. We don't have a coach who can do that. Hence the negativity.

With you 100%

Case Study: France v Raymond Domenech (442 World Cup Guide)
Public opinion of him in France is at an all time low. they believe he is not achieving the quality of football that the talent pool of the French national squad has the potential for. sounds very similar to us,
However do the French public not deserve a national football team?

No, they deserve a better manage (hopefully in Laurent Blanc)

+1 with this all the way. And hopefully we can find a more competent manager after the tournament too.

Hell, I think most people wouldn't mind Lavicka in the job.

Well that opens up a whole new can of worms there, probably for a different thread. But if the FFA do decide to look for a new manager, his efforts with Sydney will put him right up there.

The line between a genius and a madman is very thin. Only time will tell and there is nothing we can do except strap in for the ride and cross our fingers!

But people are overstating how much this is due to Pim. The playing group was much stronger at the last WC. For example 4 years ago Cahill was a 26 year-old playing at Everton, and wasn't picked to start in the opening game against Japan. Bresciano was also 26, doing great in Serie A, but only started in 2 of our 4 WC games. There were 7 EPL players alone in our best 11.

Saying that picking player A instead of player B is the difference between 'maybe beating England' and 'losing all 3 games without scoring' is just a bit over the top.

Hope not tbh. Would like someone better at the helm if we could do it.

I'm not going to give up on us yet. Personally its the FFA who should be copping the flak for basically hiring a coach and the mandate he was given was qualify for World and Asian Cup at all costs and dont bother developing any new talent. He has done that and full credit to him and I will reserve judgement until the job is finished. Still I am hoping like hell we see a bit more from the players against the Danes and the Yanks.

No.

But this has been long-standing, and comes from the fact I think he was not the right choice at the time, and that we rushed into signing up someone just because they were Dutch with no regard to their record or credentials.

And we could have fixed it and brought someone better in, but we haven't, which is sad.

Carle, Vidosic, Oar, Ruka, Spira, and Rhys Williams should all be either starting or, in the attackers case, used as impact subs regularly in the cup - and Bosnar or Ognenovski should probably be starting at CB instead of Moore.

However - Pim's the boss at the moment and I hope for our sakes his one predictable plan comes off for us.

Fuck oath it is.

Yeah didnt exactly have the Koreans playing dazzling football. Wouldnt have been opposed to him getting chopped and bringing someone in but that wouldnt be sending the greatest message to the next bloke we hire, might make pickings a bit slim.