That is according to French football expert Matt Spiro.

He tweeted: “Monaco accept #Arsenal's £90m bid for Thomas Lemar. 

“However am told player would rather join #Liverpool.”

lol.....

Lucas Perez back to Deportivo on loan.

Sky Sports joining the bandwagon and reporting hours after everyone else that we've bid 90m+ for Lemar.

No idea what the story is with Mustafi, whether it was him wanting to leave or us really wanting to get rid of him but that's all off now and he's staying.

So looks like we have agreed a deal with City for Sanchez but it'd dependent on us getting Lemar to replace him who we've apparently had a bid in for. If no Lemar then Sanchez stays.

Does anyone know anything about Mustafi leaving? I mean I've liked him and can't work out why the fuck we are even considering selling him in the first place. 
Ox did well to pick Liverpool over Chelsea imo and I'm sure he'll do well there.
Sydcro I agree walcott is our biggest waste of money player we have on our books but I'm pretty sure the only reason we're not selling him is because he's that fucking shit no one wants to buy him and pay him anything near the 140k pounds a week or so we're currently paying.

You're on thin ice

I wouldn't mind seeing us buy an actual DM and play them next to Xhaka instead of pretending Xhaka is a DM who can play with a wannabe striker like Rambo.

As for wages, forget Ramsey, the best thing we can do is fuck off Theo. There's well over 100k a week saved there.

Mustafi's move to Inter has broken down so at least that's that probably sorted.

What if you guys got Sterling ? http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2017/08/arsenal-transfer-news-raheem-sterling-man-city-exclusive/

After the Liverpool game "effort" I propose we sack Aaron Ramsey. 

That'll help clear up even more wages as per sydcro's thoughts. 

Yeah the loss of revenue from the Champions League is supposed to be the biggest thing, means we can't increase our wage spending as much as we would be able to if we were in the champions league. Still don't quite believe that, even with signing Kolasinac and Lacazette we should still have enough left to make at least 1 or 2 more major signings, especially since Ox, Gabriel and Gibbs leaving clears about 170k per week off the wage budget.

I can't get my head around the no more money thing.

Is it one of the fallouts from no Champs League, maybe? 

Up until this point, it just felt like we had the ability, but not desire, to spend way more money than we currently had. 

Apparently it's our wage bill and this new soft sslary cap that's the problem.

Where the fuck is all the money?

So Ox to Liverpool for 35m+5m in add ons. Same offer as the one from Chelsea. 

Ornacle also says we have no money left for major transfers and that the only way Sanchez leaves is if we get a major offer and sort out a replacement.

So as it stands our summer incomings ended with Lacazette. We are a complete joke lol

He's an idiot. He will 100% play at Chelsea. It'll be at RWB but he'll be playing. I mean there's confidence in yourself but this is ridiculous lol.

Strange move by Ox.
As jlm mentions we have mids and quite a few at that and were trying to get Monaco's Lemar first and foremost atm and possibly Van Dijk ?.
Who knows the above not turning out may open Ox's chances but I can't see the point at this stage.
Chelski need a mid.

He's more likely to play for Chelsea, who want him at RWB. 

He's not getting into Liverpools squad in CM and he can't play RB. 

Why on earth would he move to Chelsea to sit on the bench when he could move to Liverpool and actually play? Good career move. Who wants to play for Chelsea anyway

The fuckwit has turned down a 40million move to Chelsea to try and force through a move to Liverpool. 

His shitty decision making is fucking us off the pitch now as well.

So according to the Ornacle Ox is off to Chelsea for 40m

Also looks like we've agreed a fee for Gibbs with West Brom. Supposed to have a medical later today. Get the feeling it'll be a busy couple days.

So looks like Ox is actually on his way out. No real problems there sounds like we'll get a good fee and one that is well above what he's worth imo. Whether that fee is used back into the squad is a different story.

While Ox leaving is no big deal imo I still have no fucking idea what is going on with Mustafi. If our plan is to go into a season with Koscielny, Holding, a retiring Mertesacker and I guess Chambers as our CB's then we have well and truly lost the plot if that wasn't already obvious.

Hey, like I said I'm just bringing up conversation plus it is a curious scenario.
Forgetting wenger for now.
Lets look at it another way.
20 clubs competing in the top flight.
Your squad talent overall the last 10yrs barring last season not making CL has been better than the other 16 clubs for the results prove it..
All of those other 16clubs would wish for that let alone......

A manager only can do what the Board tells him to do, its obvious he's getting paid very well not to go against the Boards directive, he's submitted to that by staying on each time at contract renewal.
Do you guys think the Board will change its way going to business once wenger is gone ? doubt it just that the managers name is new.
Look at Ashley at Toonville, what they could be for so many years, I don't expect Rafa staying their much longer, the rope gets pulled in, he won't take that the type of person he is.

Players I keep saying......
Read Henry Neville Souness in this one, Carra was blasting players not just this time before as well.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/08/27/arsene-wenger-hints-private-issues-affecting-arsenal-unacceptable/

I don't understand what you're trying to say LFC. I agree 100% that the board are to blame for this whole mess, which is why I've said all along sacking Wenger won't make things better because I have zero faith in the current board finding a suitable replacement.
Having said that you'd have to be blind not to think Wenger is pretty much part of that same board calling the shots.
You're saying that it's the players who are to blame but you do realise that he is the one picking them right? So yes he deserves the blame especially when he chops and changes the players who perform well each week, yet persists week in week out with the players who flop it in every single game. 
I was a huge supporter of Wenger especially when every season he would have to sell our best players to pay off Emirates Stadium and yet he'd still make top 4 year in year out, however with finances looking better then many clubs out there now, and being in a position for the last 3 seasons where he hasn't had to sell his best players, I can't make anymore excuses for him. 
He's failing miserably and it's such a shame he'll go out this way with majority of fans wanting him out. It shouldn't be this way but he's the one to blame. 
I want him out and hopefully the board brings in one useless manager after another ( which I'm sure they'll do ) and then that scum bag kronke has enough and sells out to one of the other owners who actually support Arsenal. They'll come in wipe out the current board and hopefully then Arsenal gets back to where it belongs which isn't being happy to make top 4 and last 16 of champions league. 

You're right about one thing, the board is to blame. In the end it's them who decided to have no fucking balls and say no to a manager who has let football pass him by. They were ones who failed to put their foot down and make a decision to try and move the club forward instead of treading water for another 2 years. I mean what happens if in 2 years Wenger says he wants another contract? At this point I don't trust anyone at the club to have the balls to say no.

As for the players, of course they're not blameless but the fact this has happened multiple times with completely different groups of players means Wenger has to take the majority of the blame. He's either the unluckiest manager of all time or he just doesn't have it anymore.

I mean you just look at some of the shit of the last decade

- Losing 8-2 at United
- Losing 6-0 at Chelsea
- Losing 5-1 at Liverpool
- Losing the title in 2008 despite being on top for all but 3 weeks from September to fucking March
- Somehow finishing 4th in 2014 despite again spending more time in 1st than anyone else.
- Capitulating in the League Cup Final against Birmingham
- Losing 5-3 on aggregate against Liverpool in the Champions League QF despite being ahead on away goals in the 85th minute.
- Losing 10-2 on aggregate against Bayern last season
- Capitulating at home against Monaco.
- Collapsing in the League cup semi finals in 2008 losing 5-1 against Spurs away.
- There is of course our away record against City, United, Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool since 13/14 which reads Played 21, Won 2, Drawn 6, Lost 13, Scored 24, Conceded 52.
- Then of course there was the time we lost against Sheffield United 1-0 despite Phil Jagielka being in goal for the final 34 minutes of the game.
- Drawing 4-4 with Newcastle despite being up 4-0 at HT.

There is only 1 real constant through all of that and it's the manager, so when the same thing keeps happening with different groups of players it's hard to place the majority of the blame on anyone else really.

jlm, I get your pov but I'm still on players for the main.
Obviously watching from the sideline for years is players putting IN despite what is occuring off field and, most of your players are not consistent.
Sure a new gaffa inspires due to the change but a good player plays good week in week out, you see this in mid to low table teams, x amount keep doing the job..
IMO Kos is just about your one and only top liner who does so from the backline, body on the line and all just as any great CB.
Look at your mids, who plays a sound game week in week out - none imo and you have one of the most gifted Ozil.
Look at Ramsey when in the green shirt is another thing but at one stage our game he's destracted by the bench leaving a huge hole whilst Firminho heads one in.
Front, forget Welbz, the fapping is due to Giroud being hot and cold from the get go, he struggled making consistent impact at united and whats different to date disregarding injuries.
In saying that they still are good enough and the rest no - imo wenger should be pissed paying good players for sub standard performances for so long and tarnishing his and past players.
And yet he'll be to blame and the fresh air will confirm it all but you know what - its the board who are the real culprits imo.
I'm bringing in another pov for discussion.

Playing  dat guy welbz over  giri out and lacazette was insane , Ox over sead? Holding over musti? Who gives a fuck if  musti has a agreement with inter, play the guy. This was much worse than the 8 2 result.  We shown no spirit oDr fight. Wenger needs to go. He's tarnishing  his reputation  even more the more he keeps on going.

@LFC,

Players make mistakes, you're right. The Bellerin one was definitely a mistake. But would he have made that mistake if he hadn't had all confidence sapped out of him by playing a foreign position for the first half of the game, as well as the game prior?

Holding showed Mane the inside, but why was Holding in the position to have to defend one of the most lethal wingers in the comp 1 on 1?

Now, the players aren't completely absolved of blame, but when the exact same issues persist throughout dozens of players in game like this, you look at the one constant. 

I was Wenger Out last season, not because I didn't think he could do a job, just that I think he's taken this team as far as he can. You can look at most teams around the world and see how a new manager, with new approaches reinvigorates squads and gets the players fully committed again. 

I'm Wenger Out now because I don't think he can do the job with this team and I think the long term effects could be damaging. Right now, he's only ruining his reputation and it's truly sad to see. 

I said this was better than the 5-1 drubbing.
sydcro, I never quoted wemger isn't accountable but that players are as well.
Look, I get what you guys go on about wenger, any of us would in our own clubs as well but what I'm saying, despite x player is on the bench instead of who and this and that the fact is all players are in the 1st squad as we know. Sure some are better than others etcetc But they train together, they are expected to combine as standard first up and should no matter whats going on behind the scenes etc and there is some quality we all can agree on this. They don't do it week in week out.
Then its the "ticka", they are feckin over paid pros, thats why no matter about wenger they should get a right royal kick up the feckin arse to fight for the shirt first and utmost no matter the varying quality of the player/s and the whatever regards the manager....
Oh its wenger, its wenger, all I keep seeing on the pitch when this does occur is players screwing up, over many games last season and other times in the past not just this last game..
Pride ? ffs we've had a player such as milner, over age, out of position, LB last 2seasons as you know, he's no super star but he dug in game in game out thats what I'm talking about.
Its quoted even, downfall lack of leadership, determination, no belief.
Bellerin ? hanging back last man waffles at the clearing ball, wengers fault ?
Holding ? with an approaching Firmino shows him the inside - wengers fault ?
Sure wenger with his aids needs to nuture and have them prepared but where's the responsibility of the players ???  up to you as a player to stand up with your fellow players/mates.
I just get sic of managers always having to take the fall, its not only him..
Do you know of the facts regards to this past starting line up ?
As mentioned why if some say xhaka and ramsey don't work why does it happen ?
Do you know the change room and management goss why this occurs ?
Then I could understand who's to blame.
Couple of FACups that I'm sure others would like - heck wish it was us with those Cups for starters.
wenger has only just not made CL for the first time, his fault entirely ? do you know all of the facts behind the scenes incl the board ?
IF you know the real facts I'm all ears, were all just supporters that sadly don't know everything whats going on behind the scenes, maybe thats all I should have said lol.....

I am seriously worried about where we will be in 2 years time when Arsene's time is hopefully up.

Not sure how on earth you can think Wenger isn't the one accountable when he's been the only constant through a decade of shit. He's had different groups of players all produce the same crap over and over and over again, it's not like this is some unique recent thing.

Also this was so so much worse than the 5-1. Not sure I can remember a result and more so performance that was worse under Arsene's reign.