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What the AFL could learn from the A-League


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By Davo1985 - 27 Oct 2014 5:43 PM

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In purely scoreboard terms, Saturday night's A-League derby between Melbourne Victory and Melbourne City was, in the finish, a bit of a rout. Yet the post-game talk universally was of a stunning night for local soccer. Why? It was the atmosphere.

I've been to something like 1500 AFL games in my lifetime and only a handful of A-League fixtures, but the different feel at Etihad Stadium on Saturday night was remarkable. The place simply buzzed.

The derby drew 43,729, more than for all but two of the 48 AFL games played at Etihad Stadium this year, but this was about more than numbers. It was about the noise, the colour and the excitement generated.

Which, heading towards 2015, and a season the AFL has unofficially dubbed "the year of the fan", is an example the indigenous code needs to study very carefully.

Soccer has always had it over the indigenous game for the quality of its crowd chants and singing, but this wasn't just about clever quips and taunts to opposition fans.

There were banners and waving flags aplenty, mass twirling of coloured scarves, and a constant wall of noise generated by the fans, not by ear-splitting and intrusive advertising booming across the PA system at the breaks, a staple of AFL on this occasion thankfully absent.

It was a salient reminder for us older football types of how AFL used to be as a live experience, and perhaps the extent to which the commercialisation and homogenisation of our own code has chipped away at it.

Watch any clips from the old VFL days and you're reminded again. For starters, there were up to eight or nine different venues, each with their own character and quirks, compared with just two in Melbourne now.

Have a look at any home-and-away game from the 1970s or '80s, let alone finals at the MCG or Waverley, and you'll see grounds decked out in club-coloured banners stretching around most of the stands.

They were works of art, slogans that borrowed from old verse or simpler rhymes, the lettering bold or in some memorable cases in Old English script.

Then there were the cheer squads, whose floggers stretched around the fence further than you'd ever see today. They threw copious amounts of crepe paper streamers and ripped up phone directories. Each week, the area behind each team's goals resembled a sea of colour and movement.

The reason you don't see these things any more is in most cases the same: overly draconian health and safety measures and corporatisation of the game to within an inch of its life.

First it was players tripping on streamers and a couple of silly escapades where floggers caught on fire, which led to restrictions on their size. Then came the complaints from sponsors about the streamers covering up the perimeter advertising that began to encase grounds. Good luck finding a square inch of an AFL ground these days not sold off to sponsorship.

There are a lot more AFL games per season than there were 30 years ago. But a lot less differentiation, too, as will happen when roughly 100 games are scheduled for just two multipurpose stadiums that a large contingent of clubs all call "home", though the term regarding Etihad and the MCG should be used loosely.

Social clubs remain anchored at the old suburban bases of those still retaining some connection with them. The grounds of today may have post-match function rooms for the clubs hosting games there, but there's a transient feel, the lack of club culture palpable.

Even beyond that, I hear consistent complaints from football fans about the "nanny state" intruding on their football-going experiences. Signs any more provocative than "Go Pies" being frowned upon or confiscated. And, believe it or not, supporters being warned by security staff for barracking too loudly.

The AFL has had enough trouble this year, amid confusing ticketing systems and unfriendly scheduling, convincing followers to actually turn up to games. The last thing it can afford is to make them feel like naughty schoolchildren when they do.

Which is why, for a hard-core AFL supporter, last Saturday night felt something like a trip back in time. Real passion and involvement, unstymied by over-officiousness. Loads of colour and movement. And lots of noise actually generated by fans rather than speaker stacks.

Of course soccer has its own cultural nuances, its own vibe. But occasions such as the Melbourne Victory-Melbourne City derby just serve to reinforce that, at this critical juncture in the AFL public's relationship with the game, it's a feel those running the show could do a lot worse than reacquaint themselves with.


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By zander - 28 Oct 2014 3:21 PM

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I hope the FFA is paying attention and don't try and sanitise football. Let's hope we aren't saying the same things in 20 years time.

Yeah, I can't see Sydney FC and Western Sydney sharing ANZ Stadium anytime soon.

Mind you, both Melbourne clubs pretty much share the same home ground....


Yeah we do, sort of, but in 5-10 years maybe City will be playing at Etihad Stadium and leaving an upgraded AAMI Park for us.. Well I can only hope.

In 5-10 years time, won't the AFL have full control of Ethad? And they will go about systematically blocking any sport that isn't AFL, and maybe perhaps the odd Cricket 20-20?

I still maintain, I think it's only matter of time before Melbourne Citeart will have to seriously look at relocation within Melbourne or Victoria. I honestly think it's the only way that club is going to grow. 2 teams that locate themselves in the heart (pardon the pun) of Melbourne isn't going to work out in the long scheme of things. That's my impression anyway.


Yeah I think you're right. Would be better anyway. We move to AAMI, and City relocate to somewhere just out of Melbourne, whether it be Western or Eastern suburbs and build their own stadium out there. 30,000 seater just like AAMI Park, I think they would flourish if that happened.


They have the financially backing, would be a real statement to the fans.

This is what I'm thinking. I can honestly see the City group in 3 or so years time thinking that they're not going to grow playing as "Not-Melbbourne-Victory". They can still call themselves Melbourne City, but they should aim to re-locate to another part of Melbourne. I'm not sure of the demographics of the Melbourne football sporting landscape, but maybe a re-location to the Eastern or Western Suburbs would be idea.

Sure, finding land that's close to public transport and road connections is simple and all. We'll knock down what's left of Victoria Park, easy!

Seriously though the only half decent area would be E-Gate with a footbridge to North Melbourne, and even then the only reason a new stadium would be built there would be in Etihad locked out football so a new 60,000 seat stadium was needed.


Seems like you underestimate the power of oil money

edit: just googled it and realised its heritage listed :lol: ...but still.
Edited by zander: 28/10/2014 03:21:28 PM

Edited by zander: 28/10/2014 03:25:46 PM