433 wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:433 wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:11.mvfc.11 wrote:I think Ruben is actually a 14 year old lesbian called Robin.
Apparently, because I don't subscribe to your viewpoint, I am a 14 year old lesbian named Robin.
Run along fool and let the big people have a discussion.
Says the bloke who thinks basic supply and demand economics is sexist.
I usually try and ignore you because you add nothing but I never said it was sexist. I asked some questions about the status quo.
If other countries pay traditional "women's" careers more than they do here it has to be more than economics.
It has to be because economics transcends borders. If it's not economics then its either perceptions and/or cultural differences or something else.
"Economics" by itself doesn't explain away the differences.
Do you ever read the shit you write before you post it?
Are you seriously so deluded that you think there is some massive conspiracy to underpay women in careers they
choose to go into?
Cut yourself with Occam's razor, and you'd see all your posturing about "societal values" and "attitudes towards women" is a load of shit. It's supply and demand. Any dumbfuck from the streets can be a nurse or a primary school teacher, so there is a gluttony of supply hence lower wages. Being an engineer or doctor etc takes lots of hard work and study, so there's only a small supply of these - hence their wages are higher.
Is that too hard to understand? Or am I just being a sexist by saying that engineering is harder than primary school teaching?
Do you ever think outside of the little bubble you live in.
I've asked a fair question.
Women get paid more for some "traditional" women's careers in some countries than they do here in Australia.
All I am saying is that it can't just be economics and economics only otherwise whatever is true here in Australia would be true overseas.
How about you apply a bit of Occam's razor yourself. Given economics is economics is economics how does this does that fit your narrative?
There must be other factors in play. It could be cultural, it could be that the work is not valued, it could be something else.
It's easy to scream SUPPLY AND DEMAND but that doesn't explain away why some other cultures pay women more than they do here for certain types of work.
And by the way an astrophyiscs degree is harder to get than a law degree but that's not reflected in the pay scales of the relative careers.
Edited by MUNRUBENMUZ: 15/5/2015 09:32:14 PM