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Dame Edna skewers Waleed Aly, talks up Malcolm Turnbull on The Project


https://forum.insidesport.com.au/Topic2353288.aspx

By quickflick - 29 Apr 2016 11:02 PM

Linda Morris, appearing in the Sydney Morning Herald on 29 April, 2016 wrote:


Carrie Bickmore's stretch marks became a topic of conversation as Dame Edna Everage played comedic havoc on The Project, targeting co-host Waleed Aly.
Aly, who has lately assumed the role of The Project's political conscience, became Dame Edna's main fall guy during the comedian's television appearance - and he wasn't comfortable with the attention. It was classic Dame Edna, who has roasted everyone from Charlton Heston to the Queen during a long career in the public eye.

"I'm going very well, little Wally," Edna said after being introduced on the show. "And I have to tell the viewers, that he really does look like this. He does! It's not a trick of the lights."

Aly looked confused: "I'm just trying to figure out what response you are looking for here."
Dame Edna, the queen of the purple rinse, is the alter ego of Barry Humphries who was appearing on Ten's magazine-format current affairs program to promote his association with a well-known pyjamas retailer. Dame Edna's comedic forte is acerbic cut-downs of tall poppies.

Humphries recently angered the transgender community when he was quoted as saying people who undergo gender reassignment surgery are merely "mutilated men", and Caitlyn Jenner, formerly known as the Olympic athlete Bruce Jenner, was a "publicity-seeking ratbag".
Saying it was important to make bedtime fun, Dame Edna had a go at the non-smoking, non-drinking Aly. "I don't know if you believe in that, Waleed."
"All kinds of fun," Aly responded as Bickmore elbowed him and told him to stop. "Fun you wouldn't believe."

"Do you?" deadpanned Dame Edna. "Imagine if you had company in bed."
Asking Bickmore about the birth of her daughter, Evie, a year ago, Edna asked, "Did you have stretch marks as a result?" Dame Edna suggested a remedy of wombat spleen jelly. "I have some with me in a very private area. I will show you the miracle effect."
Asked about Queen Elizabeth's 90th birthday, Dame Edna said: "Isn't it wonderful? Waleed doesn't think so. I bet you're an old pinko, are you?" Aly insisted: "I like the Queen, I've got nothing against her."
Dame Edna ruled out entering politics before giving the Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull her endorsement, kind of.
"There are so many dreadful people involved in that. I don't think we have the politicians we deserve, I'm afraid I don't, though I would disagree with Waleed. I think Mr Turnbull is a very strong and impressive Prime Minister. I don't like him very much personally but I think he is a good chap, good fellow for the job."

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/comedy/dame-edna-skewers-waleed-aly-talks-up-malcolm-turnbull-on-the-project-20160429-gohrwc.html


Edited by quickflick: 29/4/2016 11:03:17 PM
By quickflick - 3 May 2016 10:08 PM

Captain Haddock wrote:
quickflick wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
Look, I think Waleed is a smart guy and an articulate one as well. I think he should go into politics and I imagine he'd have a reasonable future as a candidate for The Greens. My issue (besides the one I've mentioned) is that there are people who actually hold him up as some sort of fair and balanced voice of reason (which is complete bullshit), not to mention his deliberate vagueness or complete absence from The Project when another Islamic terrorist attack occurs.


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You must have interesting definitions for "deliberate vagueness" and "complete absence".

He's absolutely unequivocal.

Oh wait. It's much more fun to think all Muslims want to blow you up.

Edited by quickflick: 3/5/2016 09:25:07 AM



I saw that segment when it came out. Basically "Don't criticise these people or else they'll just make it worse!" Fact is, ISIS could think up any reason to recruit people. The idea that a bunch of people on the internet talking shit is going to change that is ludicrous.

I agree with BETHFC on Bolt- he's obviously biased to anybody that isn't a hard-core right winger. Yet even he (recently) praised Charlie Pickering after appearing as a guest on his show, saying it was again proof that you can have a dialogue and get on fine with people even if you disagree with a lot of their ideologies.

I think the basic point is that (as other people have pointed out) Charlie seems to take himself a little less seriously, whereas Waleed, while eloquent and often reasonable enough, can have the attitude that he's beyond reproach. I don't dislike the guy myself, even if I disagree with his slant on a lot of things.



I've put in italics the weak part of what you're saying.

Can you substantiate?

Why do people want to join extremists? Sometimes because they're psychopaths. To this extent, there are people who would join ISIS and you're right about that.

But we're not talking about a huge proportion of people. We're talking about such a small minority who can do only rather limited damage (touch wood).

Who else joins (or is indoctrinated) by extremists? The weak, vulnerable and marginalised. They mightn't be bad people initially. But they can be cajoled into doing terrible things because their lives have been made so shit by the rest of society.

These terrorist attacks split society. Most people are too thick to be able to understand different shades of grey. Understanding how to manipulate fear and division (although usually on non-terrorist issues) is how Sir Lynton Crosby has made a ton of money in Australia and the UK electioneering. He is alive to this and convinced people like John Howard and David Cameron to use fear and wedge politics to win elections. Well, what do you know, Howard was in government for a long time and Cameron won the general election by a country mile.

ISIS also play on fear and division. They exploit basic human psychology. They want people like you to hate Muslims, en masse. They want Muslims to be marginalised on social, cultural, political and institutional levels. This will drive moderates who are marginalised to be primed for indoctrination to extremism.

If only people weren't so stupid as not to realise it. But maybe people just like to hate.

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