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How the FFA Cup stirs more than memory lane at Melbourne Knights


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By scott21 - 12 Aug 2016 9:29 PM

How the FFA Cup stirs more than memory lane at Melbourne Knights



"There will never be another Australian team like that," said Frank Juric, motioning to a photo on the wall with the tagline "January 1996". "Horvat, Stabba, Simunic, Cervinski, Pondeljak, Kovacevic, Tiatto." And the great goalkeeper is probably right - never mind that Mark Viduka left for Dinamo Zagreb the year before.
By Sebastian Hassett
11 AUG 2016 - 9:38 PM UPDATED YESTERDAY 9:38 PM



We’re under the main grandstand at Knights Stadium, in the groundsman’s room - which looks like something out of the Derby County scenes in The Damned United - and Juric is relaxing with a cold beer and pondering the past.

"This my club, this is my home and this is our history," he said, motioning around at the walls, filled with the glorious moments and team photos.

"But it’s not about the politics, we just love football."

He sure loves it tonight (Wednesday). The Melbourne Knights - his boys - are in the final 16 of the FFA Cup. All around us, Somers Street is a hive of pure excitement.

They reckon they can win the whole thing. Why not?




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I can understand why Juric, now the club’s goalkeeping coach, feels compelled to point out that team, two decades old.

For the first time in 12 years, the Knights are back in the big time, and it’s got everyone contemplating the past and future simultaneously.

Usually playing in front of crowds of a few hundred, the Knights have just beaten Western Australian side Cockburn City 2-1 in front of several thousands.

The FFA Cup has become a lightning rod of excitement outside the A-League. It’s tapping into a deep, rich vein of the game that never died. It was just dormant for a decade.

The draw for the next round is happening in Sydney, so all the players are huddled around someone’s iPad for the live stream.


“[Melbourne] Victory, come on, we want Victory,” one of the players yells. Near naked, his call is endorsed by all as the balls start to come out of the bowl.

Right now, the magic of the cup is much more than cliche or a hashtag.

Juric and Knights coach Andrew Marth want the Victory, too. We can take them.

More balls get pulled out. It might actually be the Victory - until the next ball kills that dream.

Giant-killing Green Gully it is, and a local derby will have to suffice until the next round.

By now, the Croatian Social Club, which forms part of the greater Somers Street complex, is busting to capacity.

I lose count of the number of times I hear people catching up for the first time since the club exited the National Soccer League.

It seems anyone who is anyone is back here. Truly, it’s an unofficial reunion.

The great Socceroos forward Billy Vojtek, a Knights Team of the Century member, is swapping stories with David Davutovic, now of the Herald Sun.

Davutovic is clutching a swathe of the old match day programs he used to edit as a teenager.

Tonci Prusac, the old media manager and dedicated community figure (now fitness entrepenuer), has made the trip up from Geelong with his kids.

John Sigur, the team manager in the 1994-1995, and whose father helped secure the land on which the team is now based, has flown down from Sydney just for the occasion. He can’t walk more than two metres without being accosted.

Ange Cimera - an iconic figure in Victorian football and the Knights’ honorary chairman - is suffering from mixed emotions.

The social club (which he runs) and the football club are separate entities, though no more than 50 metres apart (and if you’re wondering what happened to the old Batcave bar, it’s now a gym).

"This is great, it’s a fantastic night. It’s fantastic to see everyone come back to the club again," he said, beaming.



The magical moments that the FFA Cup keeps providing us every year have vindicated Football Federation Australia's decision to fall in line with the rest of the world and stage an annual knockout competition.
"But it’s hard, mate. We want more nights like this but we’ve got this artificial ceiling in the NPL. We’re not allowed to aspire to be any better than that and for a lot of people, if there’s no chance at getting into a higher league, what’s the point?"

I ask Cimera what his turnover is compared to usual. On a night like this, the potential of the club - football and social - is all around him.

"We’ll probably make tonight about four or five times as much as we would make in an NPL game," he said. His mind starts ticking again.

"If we were just allowed to compete for promotion - even to just get into a second division - it would be like this all the time. The community would come back together. Local people would come and watch us. But there’s no incentive. We need to be allowed to compete."

For some, especially those who haven’t come back in so long, it’s a beautiful evening and a chance to reminisce.

And they do, long into the night. Songs in the mother tongue are belted out at full steam, fuelled by an endless supply of Karlovačko; only bettered as Croatia’s finest export by Luka Modric and Davor Suker.

There's a flare in the beer garden - I know because it explodes right next to my foot. The place is smoked out and while nobody cares too much, Cimera - who is left to open all the shutters - mutters something about them "never learning".


Honestly, the moment is more nostalgic than threatening.

Players from both clubs have came in for the post-match meal, and the Cockburn players, used to the Western Australian heat, just seem happy to be out of the cold. It was pelting down during the match.

It’s getting towards midnight when I decide to go, but not before about countless handshakes. Cimera makes me promise I’ll return soon.

You certainly don’t get this in the A-League. The cup’s magic is real.






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By AJF - 17 Aug 2016 7:57 PM

RBBAnonymous - 17 Aug 2016 7:09 PM
As someone who once supported a mono-ethnic club I find some of the views and posts on here quite ridiculous and just out of touch. 

For what its worth I like the A-league and I am not bitter about the NSL or the A-league. I have moved on from those days a long time ago, in fact I welcomed the change. It was something that was needed at the time for the betterment of football in Australia. It was a shame that I had no team to support and that the transition from the NSL to the A-league was poorly implemented and little credit or acknowledgement was given to these clubs. In fact this is the great irony of Australian football that many posters on here fail to understand. It is these so "called NSL bitters" that continue to support the A-league to this day. People just moved on and just want to support football because they love football. This is what Frank Lowy was banking on and he was right. 

I finally had a team to support when WSW came into the A-league. For the first 8-9 years I never went to an A-league match, not because I was bitter, but because I genuinely didn't have a team to support. Back when the NSL was around I would imagine that a good majority of posters felt the same way I did when the A-league was first started. You genuinely didn't have a team to support in the NSL. There is no reason to be bitter about it, this is just how it was back in the day. It was the NSL bitters who were supporting football much like they are now in the current A-league. This is the great contradiction that fails to get recognized on this forum. It is not the old NSL supporters who are bitter but those who felt they were excluded from the old NSL are bitter. That's why this constantly gets dredged up every time this debate gets mentioned on this forum. Its just a waste of time and counter-productive. 

Should we allow ex-NSL clubs in the A-league. Of course we should. We should just open up the football tiers for anyone who is good enough to make it and satisfies criteria applicable to all clubs who are in the A-league eg stadium size etc. This sounds easier than it actually is because right now a lot of clubs just would not be A-league ready to make it in the top tier, which is a good thing. It would force clubs to change their structures, look to invest in stadiums, look to invest in coaching academies, look for mergers etc etc etc and the list goes on. Any club who stands still will ultimately find themselves sliding down the tiers of Australian football. 
The question for all if you is what makes you think an Ex-NSL club would succeed in the A-league, it would be extremely difficult. So why all the hysteria. The chances of them remaining in the top flight would be very small especially if they were not adapting or open to change. At the end of the day all clubs would need to lift their game, broaden their supporters, run their clubs efficiently, otherwise they just get relegated or just become also rans in the A-league. It then becomes more of a football issue for clubs and then this mono-ethnic argument gets thrown out the door. I can guarantee you no club from the old NSL will ask you to show your passport before you go and support the club if you choose to do so. In fact I would hazard a guess that they would be doing everything possible to attract as many supporters to their clubs as possible. It is to their long term detriment if they don't. To rely on their own migrant communities is also nonsense, they wouldn't survive. So again, why all the hysteria. 

The amount of times this old NSL clubs are mono-ethnic, they are bitter, self interested is nauseating.

The quicker we can move on from this thinking the better because its stifling our football. We have genuine choices of who we want to follow and it should always be about the football. The sooner we bring about P&R the sooner this will be the focus, because old NSL clubs will need to adapt and be open to change in order to just survive in the new environment. They have no choice. What all clubs in Australia want is the opportunity to compete at the top tier. This would create a fantastic and dynamic environment for our clubs. Clubs which are genuinely run well will ultimately survive. This fear of what if MV, WSW or SFC gets relegated is simply nonsense. Big clubs with deep pockets rarely get relegated and if they do, they quickly find themselves in the top tier soon enough. Clubs who are run poorly or have small supporter bases or have no money, no academies or development etc etc etc are the ones who are found out and will be relegated. We have nothing to fear but fear itself. 





Just letting you know you are talking way too much sense and may well be on the wrong forum...