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matildas thread


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By grazorblade - 31 May 2024 7:46 PM

starts in 25 minutes v china
By Roar in me Blood - 3 Jun 2024 1:36 PM

mark_000au - 3 Jun 2024 12:00 PM
Roar in me Blood - 2 Jun 2024 5:13 PM

Vine did try to take on the Chinese in the 1st half but not successful and turnovers as she tried so hard to beat and cross the ball. Maybe she can do that in domestic league but not against higher level defenders. Maybe against Uzbekistan/Vietnam/Thailand/Iran/Philippines but she will be struggling against Nth & Sth Korea/Japan/China in AFC.  No coach in the world would tell their winger not to take on their defenders, under him you can see Foord torn her defenders apart as a winger all the time. Vine just didn't have the skills to do so.

I have been watching the Matildas every game since Tokyo Olympics. Gustavsson did give opportunities to the younger girls to shine but the level of some of these girls are unbelievably bad and becoming a liability to the team. Even if you put a few seniors in there the team still becomes vulnerable.

If he is coaching the US/England/Spain/Japan/France/Germany yes he can experiment anyone but not the Matildas.  The depth in the team is much worse than the Socceroos.  If you watch Australia women U17/19/23 you will feel like a bunch of blonde girls running around wanting to play for exercise as many of them lacking basic skills.

You have to put yourself in Gustavsson shoe.  The club job to train the players  not the national coach.  Some players 8/10 another player 3/10 what would the coach do?  

I would blame Gustavsson if we have the depth in the squad and he gave the wrong tactics. But when we have some poor players below the standard mixing in the team  I do feel sorry for Gustavsson. 



I totally agree about the quality of the younger age squads and commented a bit like you about how it looked like players who enjoyed the game rather than had been working at it as a career choice. The Matildas effect will only just be starting to influence girls in the youngest age groups who want to be great and start working on skills early enough but they have several years of football ahead of them before we will see them coming through even our youngest national squad.

I was not saying Gustavsson needs to teach players how to play football in terms of how to pass a ball and the like - I was saying he needs to teach them how to work together to meet his game plan. There is no way in hell that our defensive midfielders were producing any options bringing the ball out - that is on him as a player manager. They just stayed in behind their opponents and contributed little to the attack - leaving our wingers isolated and useless. There are few players who can successfully take on 4 swarming opponents when pinned to the wing without coughing up the ball more often than not. 

I also agree that a coach would tell players not to take on defenders - but I would also say that he did not keep Vine trying. I can only remember a couple of times that she tried to beat her defender 1 on1 - once with pace and another time checking her run then trying. From your comments it may have been more often in the first half and she just lacked all confidence in the second half but we were not seeing her try to play like she normally does. I am not suggesting she is a top quality player - I am saying that we did not see anything like the best she can offer even against the better defensive efforts of the Chinese team.

For Gustavsson's player rotations over the last few years he either threw a whole lot of new players on together as his 'experimental sides' or he tried individuals for half games then another player, then another player the next game game and so on without actually letting them learn to play into the squad at that level. In friendlies he goes to his known players when we are losing a game rather than letting the players fight their way out of whatever challenges they have.

I do not want him to put 'a few experienced players on' - I want him to have a structured approach with a few individuals over time and not the 2/3 of a team new and clueless.

That was not a team of players we watched against China. It was a group of individuals who had no idea what to do as a group and that comes from the coach. To me, it showed he put no effort into the game at all - just told them to go and do their best and show him what they could offer. They come from a domestic system where they have been taught to play their clubs way and have little exposure beyond that. They are totally out of their depth when they are all thrown together without the guidance that Gustavsson should have given them had he bothered to put effort into the game beyond moving magnetic buttons on his whiteboard.