CCM have an academy.

http://www.ccma.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=1



What do you think about the FourFourTwo article 'A-League Clubs Need Academies'?
COACHING guru Alf Galustian has urged the introduction of youth academies at each A-League club to boost the Aussie talent pool.

Have your say.

All well and good for them; what Alf G is saying is that the rest of the HAL must follow suit

And Brisbane Roar are starting an academy...in Indonesia.

Couldn't agree more with this idea. I think one of things that the old NSL clubs had and even state league clubs now have over their A-league counterparts is junior teams from younger ages

By clubs having academies it would help erase the system of FFA conducting all the elite coaching.

Clubs develop players in the rest of the world.

The same should apply here and disempower FFA a little by providing alternative programmes.

@ Voice ofReason: My understanding is that the academy will be more or less just using the name but we'll obviously get a look in at the players as opposed to being run by our club (if that makes sense?). Don't mind this as I think A-League clubs need to take more of an interest in these sorts of areas. Plenty of diamond-in-the-rough players who won't cost the world.

I think we'll eventually set up an academy for Aus players. Would be rather nice and Brisbane, and QLD in general, has been producing some rather good players of late.

Does anyone have info on the CCM academy fees?

I assume it's propped up by player's fees because most A-league franchises struggle to pay the rent, let alone fund a youth academy.

Its around $1100 for the season. They just pay the same as every other kid playing SAP/Metro League/Super Youth League as set by football NSW as far as I aware.

surely the FFA are capable of setting this up so that selected state league clubs and A league clubs could offer this .

One of the regular posters on here has said that Roar assists with their club youth development programme.

Sounds great to me.

Some FFA staff coaches have very easy, cushy jobs. To have HAL clubs providing programmes will provide alternatives.

Great idea. Perth were apparently trying to strike a partnership with a state league side, which would help as all the state league teams have there own "academies" or versions of anyway.

Youth academies - common sense but you do have to have it.:-({|=

Edited by Val: 13/3/2012 08:51:13 PM

With the current setup of the HAL, Franchise/Licence system, the move away from promotion/relegation system I beleive thta an Academey system in Australia or at least Victoria were I am aware of the junior system here will cause more problems for the the Melb Victory and Heart than they will solve.

To run a top quality program you will require the following.

One Technical Director A Licence accredited minimum.

Minimum B Licence Coach for each team start at U18, U16, U15, U14, U13, U12

Each assistant coach would require a minimum C Licence.

One sports Scientist.

Two Physios.

Medical assistance in the form of Nurse, paramedic or Doctor (or immediate access to Doctor Clininc)

One Admin person.

One Welfare officer.

Preferably an agreement with a local primary and Secondary school, bonus would be if they have indoor facilities, gym facilities indoor soccer courts , synthetic pitch and grass pitches. Partnership would allow for more training access to kids while not interfering with their education. In the UK Watford is held up as a bench mark model while the Bundesliga Academies are the benchmark.

To achieve maximum benefit the coaches and staff should be full time.

Wages would be around $1.2 Million access to school and its facilities any where from $5,000 to $20,000 per student. Of course if the school option is not possible acceptable facilities will be required. As a private company they will pay commercial rates for these type of facilities compared to incorpaorated associations that pay discounted rates to councils.

For a first class Academy your up for $2Million per annum.

If your option is to run like the local junior clubs with part time staff and lower qualifications train three times a week.
Then you open up a different can of worms.

If you run an open trial for lets say an U12 team, how many kids do you think will turn up to this trial. My guess is 1000 give or take a couple of hundred (thats how many turn up for SAP trials) now the problem isn't who gets selected the proble is who doesn't.

Every kid who is a MVFC supporter who doesn't make is going to pissed, this will affect the brand. At a MVFC junior match if the parents are ferral or tthe kids are smart arses, or there is an incident or the other team gets annihalated, what will that do long term to the MVFC brand and supporter base. I think it will have a negative affect.

I think you cannot seperate the Academy from the Brand.

I have said before that what Victory and Heart should do, that is work within the current junior setup. Pick 6 or 7 or 8 junior clubs, proviude them with technical coaching experience and administrative support. bring in your best juniors to a central location once a week and the off season and provide more training.
If needs be set up a criteria for other clubs to aspire to to be part of the MVFC junior network expand your player reach, expand the brand, increase the number of players exposed to quality coaching.

One thing the article doesn't mention or know about is that in Brisbane 2010 FFA coaches conference Galustian said straight out that you cannot tell if a 12yo will make it. Not until 16 can you tell if a kid will make it.

AC Milan has over 500 12yo's at their club in the last 20 years not one kid who started their as a 12 yo has made it to the senior team. Thats how tough it is.

As discussed Nunawading City has a lose partnership with Ange Postecoglou rather than Brisbane Roar. This is due to some coaches he mentored in Mlebourne a few years ago.

If you see how these kids play it is Barcelonaesque or like Roar.

About 40 of them went to Barcelona in January and had glowing reports from the coaches there.

The fact that academies in Australia are still used as money making tools is disgusting. Honestly, how many players in the Brazilian team do we think went to elite academies?

If the clubs can't afford to give youth talent scholarships out for their entire youth team, then they should have no right to have an academy.

This is what I want AUFC to set up, and the issue re trials? You not only run the 1st team for each year level but you also have a pure fee for service academy alongside the elite pathway.

@ Arthur. Fucking brilliant comment.

This is what the clubs need to do and the FFA needs to help them do this or move out of the way so clubs can set this up themselves.

By far the smartest thing ever written on this website. Better than the articles.

Thanks Mum.:d

The problem we face is that
We have on a league team.
We have an academy U12s through to U15s
we have an U17's and U19's high performance team and a state league team.
We did have an u19's northern state league but that has been disbanded our only hope is to play in the south east corner league who have 2 byes a week but it means we would have to fly down every week.
We would now need to fund that team through sponsorship and the riches man in the area is Clive palmer.
Basically we are screwed.

Edited by krones3: 14/3/2012 08:39:02 PM