Centralised/local C Licence


Centralised/local C Licence

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I am currently being urged to do a centralised C Licence by a FFA staff coach from interstate.

The cost of it is about $4200, with $3500 if one provides own accommodation. This is in Canberra.

The local C Licence only costs $1650.

The interstate FFA contact assures me that the centralised one is a vastly superior course.

There are some C Licence holders on here. Which did you do?


The centralised C Licence seems more expensive than the KNVB English language course in Zeist.






Edited by Decentric: 6/4/2012 10:22:29 AM
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Edited by Decentric: 6/4/2012 10:10:04 AM
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I've heard mixed feedback about the current C Licence. FFA is now allowed to make its own content in the advanced courses and its mainly based around the new curriculum and training for the 433. Some of the coaches I know who have done an advanced course recently have been disappointed in the content of these courses saying they learnt very little and a lot of it was things that have been covered in past seminars/roadshows they've attended but in more detail.I know of at least a couple of coaches who plan on doing their next course in SE Asia because the course itself is cheap (around a grand) and with accommodation and flights it would work out to a similar cost as the FFA central one but with the added benefit that they get an international experience and a different perspective rather than more of the 433 thats getting rammed down their throats at the moment.

If you just need the qualification on your CV do your local C Licence but if you want a proper well-rounded coaching education and cost isn't an issue look abroad.
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the.football.God wrote:
I've heard mixed feedback about the current C Licence. FFA is now allowed to make its own content in the advanced courses and its mainly based around the new curriculum and training for the 433. Some of the coaches I know who have done an advanced course recently have been disappointed in the content of these courses saying they learnt very little and a lot of it was things that have been covered in past seminars/roadshows they've attended but in more detail.I know of at least a couple of coaches who plan on doing their next course in SE Asia because the course itself is cheap (around a grand) and with accommodation and flights it would work out to a similar cost as the FFA central one but with the added benefit that they get an international experience and a different perspective rather than more of the 433 thats getting rammed down their throats at the moment.

If you just need the qualification on your CV do your local C Licence but if you want a proper well-rounded coaching education and cost isn't an issue look abroad.


Good advice here Decentric. I know a few coaches with a "B" licence also and they all obtained their licence from Asia which is well rounded and cheaper instead of an expensive limited 433 education here in Aus.
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Aussiesrus wrote:
the.football.God wrote:

If you just need the qualification on your CV do your local C Licence but if you want a proper well-rounded coaching education and cost isn't an issue look abroad.


Good advice here Decentric. I know a few coaches with a "B" licence also and they all obtained their licence from Asia which is well rounded and cheaper instead of an expensive limited 433 education here in Aus.



Ironically the KNVB course I did had current B Licence and C Licence content, according to a FFA staff coach in another state. He is perplexed at the attitude of my state FFA. I need some recent FFA accreditation. The same FFA staff coach, would also head to the Netherlands to pursue further KNVB training in preference to B and C Licence content in Australia, which he has recently completed.


I have no problem with the 1-4-3-3 and its seven or so variations, as I see 1-4-4-2 with the midfield diamond as an extension of it. I usually agree with you on most matters football, Aussiesrus, but nor this one. Maybe because I've been trained in it and I'm biased.

Cheaper Asian costs are interesting. I've even seen a C Licence in Sydney which costs $5000, or $4000 without accommodation. The worst thing in Singapore or Kuala Lumpur , is the heat and humidity. The difference between $5000 and $1600 for the same C Licence in Australia, is extraordinary.:-k

Some coaches in Australia, even within the FFA hierarchy, also believe there is an Old Boys network who make it difficult for some coaches to pass courses. Some leave our shores for Asia to gain impartial assessment.
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the.football.God wrote:
I know of at least a couple of coaches who plan on doing their next course in SE Asia because the course itself is cheap (around a grand) and with accommodation and flights it would work out to a similar cost as the FFA central one but with the added benefit that they get an international experience and a different perspective rather than more of the 433 thats getting rammed down their throats at the moment.



There is also the fun of meeting coaches from all round the place, not just local coaches within one's home state.

It provides a broader perspective and one develops networks.
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Interesting comments all round. Take your pick, OS, centralised or local. The local courses are not as stressful and you still have your family around. There are advantages and disadvantages to all. It really does not matter that much. From "B Licence" onwards it is all local and centralised.

I have all the UEFA A, B, and C licence resources and I can tell you that they do not have a strict formation theme. The SSGs, functions, phases, warm-ups etc are based on logical topics and football. They are flexible for any system. Our AFC Licence content and information is different to the other AFC Licences and UEFA Licences in that it is formation based. Is this the best model for educating coaches?

In the last correspondance for Advanced Licence holders (2009/10, up to date stuff!) the newsletter stated that a minimum licence for the highest state league competition was a C Licence until 2012. From 2013 it will be a "B Licence". Very hard to enforce but you can see the trend.

Decentric give the local C Licence a go, then see what you think!
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